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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Incorrect. You're the one who's upset because you lost. Why would I be upset? I won.

    And you're both still blabbering about the right to complain. I never said you don't have that right. You both seem to have vivid imaginations.
    I asked a few questions in post 463 to clarify what your position is.
    Then I noted in post 465 that it is a nuanced issue, even for me.

    You ignored the questions in 463 and went into defensive mode. It's your assumed guilt that is now pointing me toward "why are you defending a position when no one said you had it, unless you actually do have that opinion?"

    I can't speak for poopy, whose mostly just agreed with my analysis that it's nuanced, but there has to be a line where a person "becomes" a native, and that regardless we should discuss things based on the merits of the argument and not resort to questioning the legitimacy of the person who put forth that argument instead.

    You're defending the notion that your birthplace determines the weight of your criticism of local politics, and if you don't live where you were born, then your voice has less meaning or impact than someone who was born where you are. Or maybe something similar, but you're definitely throwing shade on poopy's arguments based on something akin to this argument.

    You have chosen what you're defending, and if it's not your position, then don't get all butthurt at us for discussing the thing you're discussing. I asked you to clarify your position and you started defending a position. If that's not YOUR position, then recognize that we were just following a logical thread in this conversation. If you're playing devil's advocate, then just make it clear. I'm sure me and poop are fine with a fun conversation along those lines just as much.
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    You ignored the questions in 463 and went into defensive mode.
    What you perceive as defensive mode, I would call arguing mode. And you're a physicist, not a psychoanalyst. A good thing. I don't have "assumed guilt" or whatever. I have an opinion and I share it. Poop regularly takes my comments out of context, and here you've gone with him.

    I didn't say he should shut up, or that he had no right or less right to share his opinion. I just argued with him.
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