Official Breaking Bad finale speculation thread

[oskar]

MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF SPOILERS IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN ALL EPISODES YET LDFO


I know that for most of you reading about Breaking Bad is like having salt poured into an open wound. We know it's going to end, all we can hope for is that we will be there when it does and that life will continue after.
But we have to pull ourselves together and cope, so here are my vague predictions:

• Neither the ricin nor the M60 will be used in an obvious way.

• The money will be spent.

• In Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium a toystore owner leaves a magical toystore to his daughter. It's not an accident that there were two copies of that movie in the cabin.

• Gray Matter? - see above

• He gave away his position so that the one barrel of money would be found. There are four more people who know the true amount.

edit: just discovered lists!

[Renton]

I think its pointless to speculate this show because I always seem to be wrong.

Probably the scene with the machine gun will be as soon as he arrives in ABQ. The scene with the ricin will be after many events in the episode have transpired. I think that we probably won't see Elliot and Gretchen again, I think that Charlie Rose scene was simply a catalyst to get Walt to go after the nazis. I have no idea what will become of Jesse, but him killing Todd in a lab accident would be satisfying and have some symmetry with the pilot episode. As much as I'd like that, it's pretty hard to imagine a happy ending for Jesse. He's certainly not gonna get his vengeance without Walt's help. And given the noir-ish theme of the last couple of episodes, it's hard to imagine Walt being all that effective vs the nazis.

I've been wrong on every death pool but I'm guessing we'll see jesse, skyler and company, and lydia live, and walt and todd/jack die in some way.

[jyms]

Question, since I just realized it is the finale. is this only going to be one hour? I would love a 3 hour finale. How can they tie all this in in an hour?

edit: NVMD, found out it's 75 minutes

[bode]

I think its pointless to speculate this show because I always seem to be wrong.

Probably the scene with the machine gun will be as soon as he arrives in ABQ. The scene with the ricin will be after many events in the episode have transpired. I think that we probably won't see Elliot and Gretchen again, I think that Charlie Rose scene was simply a catalyst to get Walt to go after the nazis. I have no idea what will become of Jesse, but him killing Todd in a lab accident would be satisfying and have some symmetry with the pilot episode. As much as I'd like that, it's pretty hard to imagine a happy ending for Jesse. He's certainly not gonna get his vengeance without Walt's help. And given the noir-ish theme of the last couple of episodes, it's hard to imagine Walt being all that effective vs the nazis.

I've been wrong on every death pool but I'm guessing we'll see jesse, skyler and company, and lydia live, and walt and todd/jack die in some way.

i think lydia will end up dying somehow - hopefully with the ricin replacing her stevia packet.

agree that todd, jack (and the rest of the nazis) along with walt probably die. Hopefully jesse lives somehow, but he is the most up in the air character as to whats going to happen to him imo.

[bode]

Question, since I just realized it is the finale. is this only going to be one hour? I would love a 3 hour finale. How can they tie all this in in an hour?

edit: NVMD, found out it's 75 minutes

as soon as last weeks ep was over i looked at the guide for this week hoping it was some 2 hour+ epic finale.

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[The Bean Counter]

I think I would be disappointed if all of the bad guys end up dead in the finale, including Walter. Too often the makers of tv go down the easy route of providing the viewer with an ending where good triumphs over evil (however that may look for BB), but I'd love BB to go against the grain and leave us all feeling uneasy after the final scene.

Hugely disappointing that the finale isn't going to be longer and I think the final eight episodes could have been stretched out more, but I still can't wait to see what happens.

[oskar]

I'm starting to suspect that the nazis will survive this show, because spanish inquisition and whatnot.

[BankItDrew]

The Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium point you made oskar, is a very good one. Although, Walt Jr. seemed pretty upset about the whole thing and I get the impression he doesn't want to be affiliated with it in any way after the b-b-b-bastards scene.

Walt is going to war and is going after the Nazi's. I don't see him infiltrating their base Splinter Cell style as a skinny old man with the big C. Instead, he's going to blow them to smithereens the same way Fring went.

Walt and Skyler are going to jail for a very long time and will be remembered as the most notorious drug couple in the area. Walt Jr. and his sister go to live with Aunt Purple.

As far as Jesse goes - I think he suicide bombs himself with the lab or something Walt puts together to take out the Nazi's.

[wufwugy]

not sure if want to read because im pretty sure the internet has gotten a couple trolls who worked on the finale disguise their knowledge as speculation.

[boost]

not sure if want to read because im pretty sure the internet has gotten a couple trolls who worked on the finale disguise their knowledge as speculation.

If you don't know what the real speculation is and what speculation is actually spoilers, why does it matter?

[wufwugy]

If you don't know what the real speculation is and what speculation is actually spoilers, why does it matter?

ive used that argument before, and it's a good one. but for some reason i just dont want any possibility of being screwed on this final season. it's probably because it's the very end and is happening now. if i find out i was ultimately spoiled on GoT from earlier season stuff, i won't be that upset, but if the ending of bb doesn't kick me in the nuts, i'm gonna be upset

[boost]

Right, that makes perfect sense actually.

[oskar]

The Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium point you made oskar, is a very good one. Although, Walt Jr. seemed pretty upset about the whole thing and I get the impression he doesn't want to be affiliated with it in any way after the b-b-b-bastards scene.

Walt is going to war and is going after the Nazi's. I don't see him infiltrating their base Splinter Cell style as a skinny old man with the big C. Instead, he's going to blow them to smithereens the same way Fring went.

Walt and Skyler are going to jail for a very long time and will be remembered as the most notorious drug couple in the area. Walt Jr. and his sister go to live with Aunt Purple.

As far as Jesse goes - I think he suicide bombs himself with the lab or something Walt puts together to take out the Nazi's.

He has a daughter. There's also Mike's niece, and Brock. No shortage of potential beneficiaries of Walt's life's work, but it has to be Holly.

I don't see this series ending with a panout shot of Walt looking through bars. Walt dies, that is the only thing I'm sure of.

In other news: They spent a good amount of time on Skyler and Lydia. That has to lead somewhere. I for one will be rooting for Lydia. There is something strangely attractive about a murderous accountant who is constantly terrified of everything. Skyler will get her showdown.

[oskar]

ive used that argument before, and it's a good one. but for some reason i just dont want any possibility of being screwed on this final season. it's probably because it's the very end and is happening now. if i find out i was ultimately spoiled on GoT from earlier season stuff, i won't be that upset, but if the ending of bb doesn't kick me in the nuts, i'm gonna be upset

If you're not happy with the final episode you can always imagine that the penultimate episode was the final one, that Walt changes his name to Hal and moves to California.

[abelardx]

Walt moves to Siberia and becomes the 'Krokodil Kingpin'.

[lolzzz_321]

agree w/ renton that we won't see grey matters ever again

only thing guaranteed is that todd and lydia adopt brock

[BankItDrew]

I totally expect it to end the same way Seinfeld did.

[Offisophierop]

Question, since I just realized it is the finale. is this only going to be one hour? I would love a 3 hour finale. How can they tie all this in in an hour? edit: NVMD, found out it's 75 minutes

Seems like i dont understand something here?

[BankItDrew]

WOWWWWWWWWW

No one saw Walt being killed by Skyler coming...

[oskar]

You bastard!
I came here for spoilers because I couldn't get myself to watch the episode and this is what I get?
But after watching it I have to say that even though people give a lot of shit to Dexter for their finale, a lot of the same plot lines have worked out for breaking bad: Jesse starting a wood workshop in alaska, Walt choosing Todd to take care of his daughter and Walter Jr. inexplicably dying from an undiagnosed heart condition.
Really tied the series together.

[bode]

great finale that tied everything up perfectly.

[jyms]

The remote gun on the Nazi's was a bit of a reach but I can let it slide considering how well they tied everything else together.

[spoonitnow]

I was content with how the show ended, especially with Jesse's fate and how Walt figured out the money issue.

[oskar]

Even though it was the point I got closest to guessing, I am not really happy with the money issue. When Gretchen and Elliot hand over a 9 million trust fund, Skyler and Walter Jr. would have to be pretty thick to not connect the dots.
But then I'm happy that they wrapped it up... they could have easily filled a season with the potential plot between hank's death and Felina, and with enough time they could have come up with a more satisfying story but it's ok.
As much as I wanted a 9 hour finale, in the grand scheme of things I can accept their decision.

[wufwugy]

The Better Call Saul spinoff should be a remake of Friends, with 6 people sharing an apartment: Saul, Huell, Badger, Skinny Pete, Gus, and Mike. Oh the hijinks

[boost]

I love how they made things work that no one thought could work. Gray Matter playing a big role in the finale, Skinny Pete and Badger showing up again, Walt saving Jesse, etc.

I understand the quips that people have, but I'm just elated that the finale wasn't a huge let down-- and in not being a huge let down, I think it was a huge success. If you have any doubts, just remember Lost.

[wufwugy]

It was fantastic in every single way except that Walt was really lucky. This isn't much of a criticism because I couldn't have written it better. Protagonists are supposed to be at least mildly lucky. BB did a good job of keeping Walt from having amazing luck, but the finale piled it on. I don't see how they could have gotten around that though because the last 8 eps covered so much ground. Coming into s5b, I expected the finale to be a showdown with Hank. A significant reason I thought that was because going beyond that would just make things so fast that some other holes would show up. They did an amazing job of keeping those holes minimized, but again, they did reveal themselves in how lucky Walt had to get with everything in the finale

Very pleased with the Gretchen and Elliot thing, very pleased with the Jesse resolution, but most pleased with Walt stating he did it for himself. I've probably never seen a more solid resolution. The entire show he thinks he's doing it for his family, which is was to a great degree, but the audience SEES that he does it for himself. Then in the end he finally acknowledges the truth. Fantastic stuff

[Renton]

It was fantastic in every single way except that Walt was really lucky. This isn't much of a criticism because I couldn't have written it better. Protagonists are supposed to be at least mildly lucky. BB did a good job of keeping Walt from having amazing luck, but the finale piled it on.

Meh Walt always had amazing luck, at least with regard to his own survival. The only things that were unlucky for walt had to do with his family's perception of him, i.e. the deal with Gus going down just as Skyler is giving birth. The show even recognizes Walt's luck with Jesse's important line to Hank. I think the reason why you feel this way is because the chips have been down for Walt for the last half of the season and his short term luck makes such a 180 in the finale, and for that I agree with you a little.



I was somewhat let down by the episode. I think the characters were too mired in despair brought on over the last few episodes for such a neat and clean ending. I think a bittersweet ending would have been a little more appropriate. For example, what would people have thought if instead of catching a stray, Walt is completely unscathed after the Nazi attack, but Jesse still can't bring himself to forgive him and shoots him, then Vince Gilligan credits?

[wufwugy]

Meh Walt always had amazing luck, at least with regard to his own survival. The only things that were unlucky for walt had to do with his family's perception of him, i.e. the deal with Gus going down just as Skyler is giving birth. The show even recognizes Walt's luck with Jesse's important line to Hank. I think the reason why you feel this way is because the chips have been down for Walt for the last half of the season and his short term luck makes such a 180 in the finale, and for that I agree with you a little.

You could be right, as I don't remember. But part of my point is that Walt's past luck is spread out; whereas in the finale, he's unloading from the hip and hitting nothing but bullseye

I was somewhat let down by the episode. I think the characters were too mired in despair brought on over the last few episodes for such a neat and clean ending. I think a bittersweet ending would have been a little more appropriate. For example, what would people have thought if instead of catching a stray, Walt is completely unscathed after the Nazi attack, but Jesse still can't bring himself to forgive him and shoots him, then Vince Gilligan credits?

I think that detracts from what they wanted to say about Walt. This was never supposed to be Jesse's story, and they showed that by giving Walt the full resolution and redemption while kicking Jesse down the hill. Your way would have been better in a David Simon way, but for Gilligan, the story starts and ends with Walt

[TeUnit]

i kinda liked that at least "a lot of loops were closed"- better than when they leave you not knowing what happend