Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy
Also, another interesting concept that I think I've figured out concerning 'creation' and the ideas found in 'something from nothing' or infinite regression: I suspect that something cannot come from nothing because I suspect that nothing cannot exist.

Think about it, have we ever found anything that was nothing? Do we have any evidence whatsoever for nothing? No, we don't. I suspect there was no beginning because there cannot be a beginning because there cannot be a before the beginning because that would be a something.

Think of it this way: in order to have nothing, you have to have something because in order to determine nothingness you must have a point of reference. In our view of existence and language, we impose the concept of time. When we envision the concept of nothing it is in contrast to time (and space), but we neglect to acknowledge that time is a something. And like sixty years ago Einstein discovered that time was a dimension, which suggests that time could simply be a product of our universe, which suggests that there wouldn't have to be any before our universe since there was no time

IMO that answers the question posed to atheists, 'How does something come from nothing?' Actually, another way to respond to that question is to point out to the inquisitor that it is he who is assuming that nothing exists, for which he has no evidence, and it is he who believes in a something that had no creation (God), and so he has no leg to stand upon since existence itself could likewise have no creation

FWIW, I believe one of the primary agendas on Stephen Hawking's list right now is a mathematical explanation of why the Universe doesn't need a creation
A year ago I was obsessed with this question and convinced that it meant that everything was meaningless. I thought for something to have meaning it would have to have a good reason to exist, and by that definition I even believed God, if there were such a thing, would be meaningless as well because absolute nothing must have been the beginning--the original, natural state of the universe. This was incredibly depressing as I believed that nothing I or anyone could ever do would be worthwhile. I wanted to die and thought all of humanity should feel the same, mainly because all the suffering we perceive and experience outweighs whatever meaningless happiness we can gain from living.

This is exactly how I resolved this dilemma; I realized that "absolute nothing" may just be an impossible and never-extant state of the universe rather than the natural, logical origin I had presumed.

I thought of how a finite number divided by infinity equals 0. So if our universe is a finite space in an infinite "area" in which spaces may exist, it is actually nothing. I also thought of how there is more empty space in matter than anything else, so if there were an infinite amount of matter, there would actually be a greater infinite (a hard concept to grasp) amount of empty space.

On another note, I just had this thought a few days ago: what if the entire universe behaves as a quantum particle, popping into and out of existence, a phenomenon which we could never observe due to the relativity of space and time?