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[Renton]

3 guys share a flat with one kitchen. They need to take turns to clean it up. They assign a day for each of them to clean it up.

That's a form of government. Please explain how the 3 are better off all doing wtf they please and not abiding by the centrally set regulations.

That's not even remotely related to government. Cooperation for mutual gain is one of the cornerstones of basic economics and something I'm obviously greatly in favor of. In that example each of those three guys is CONSENTING to that agreement. If any of them believes its not a fair deal he's free to opt out and live in a different apartment or live alone. The whole point of government is that its coercion-based.

I don't understand why there's the perception that because someone is critical of government, he must automatically be against any form of collective. There are tons of systems in the economy that do a lot of good things for society and operate mostly or entirely outside of the purview of the state.

For example, the credit system has improved the standard of living of billions and requires very little input from states. Lenders and retailers cooperating for mutual gain. If you have a history of welshing on your loans, you pay a higher interest rate or are denied altogether. You demonstrate that you're a responsible payer of your debts and you pay lower rates and get bigger loans. Probably best of all, you don't HAVE to participate in the system if you don't want. Just pay cash for everything.

I'm not against a system. I'm against a force-based system.