Globalization and the shrinking middle class

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wufwugy, there certainly is accreditation for manufacturing positions. There is the ASE certifying body, and then a ton of manufacturing jobs which fall under the "engineering" umbrella and would have students graduating with degrees in applied sciences.

As for the manufacturing sector crumbling in the midwest because people don't like cold weather-- well, I'm just glad you, yourself, admitted that you were talking out of your ass. I like thinking outside the box, but I think it's well established that manufacturing left, and so labor left, not the other way around. Labor may have caused it to leave through the demands of unions, but it wasn't because their toes were cold.

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wufwugy, there certainly is accreditation for manufacturing positions. There is the ASE certifying body, and then a ton of manufacturing jobs which fall under the "engineering" umbrella and would have students graduating with degrees in applied sciences.

Engineering is elite level stuff that doesn't account for most kinds of trade and manufacturing work. The accreditation I was referring to is the university stuff. As far as I know, accreditation for trades still doesn't carry much weight there

As for the manufacturing sector crumbling in the midwest because people don't like cold weather-- well, I'm just glad you, yourself, admitted that you were talking out of your ass. I like thinking outside the box, but I think it's well established that manufacturing left, and so labor left, not the other way around. Labor may have caused it to leave through the demands of unions, but it wasn't because their toes were cold.

I wasn't talking out of my ass about the Sun Belt Migration. That's legit, and it's largely climate driven. What I additionally posited is that the primary mover could have been the Sun Belt Migration, which could have sparked a cycle away from manufacturing in the Manufacturing Belt

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Engineering is elite level stuff that doesn't account for most kinds of trade and manufacturing work. The accreditation I was referring to is the university stuff. As far as I know, accreditation for trades still doesn't carry much weight there

I mean, it all depends how you want to define these things. Engineering casts a large shadow. As for more manual labor orientated manufacturing.. well.. first you don't need a bachelors or even an associates for those positions, and even when you need years of training, the nature of most industry is such that on the job training is much more appropriate.

Even still, I think you'd be surprised what sorts of jobs are filled by people with engineering degrees. Not because they couldn't find a job that matched their degree, but because that is the job that matches their degree.

I wasn't talking out of my ass about the Sun Belt Migration. That's legit, and it's largely climate driven. What I additionally posited is that the primary mover could have been the Sun Belt Migration, which could have sparked a cycle away from manufacturing in the Manufacturing Belt

Are we at Kevin Bacon's doorstep yet?