Game of Thrones TV Thread **HBO-Purists ONLY**

[jackvance]

I think Littlefinger plays a necessary role. Without him, there's no true mischievous dealings from the inside. He and Varys are a specific contrast that has played since the very beginning. Littlefinger is a real player in the game of thrones, and he will try to rule over the ashes if he can. I think the way I have him dying is at the very end of the series and in a surprising way.

So far, none of the deaths have been surprising. They've all been snugly written out of the show in the process of their demise. I look forward to the first surprise death, but I also don't think it will happen until the end, if it does at all. Drama rarely uses surprise deaths of major characters because it cant. It's not a coincidence that Scorsese keeps just about everybody alive until the end, then kills them all. Also Shakespeare

On that note, the marginal characters don't count. Ones like Ros and Craster play such small roles that they always could go at any minute. I was honestly surprised every time I saw Ros return. She was a nobody

She's a nobody, but one that is known by many characters and had her fair share of screen time too. Tyrion fucked her, Theon was in love with her. So she had her niche. I really like idea in GoT that anyone can go at any time, it adds extra tension to every episode. Except ofcourse for the really integral characters like John Snow, Arya (who basically have their own storyline), Tyrion etc.

About Littlefinger, from a storytelling pov I took that his killing of Ros could be a way of vilifying him to set up his death. But on the other hand he's making heavy speeches and like you say he's intertwined in the game for the throne so he has his own importance. But I just hate the way him and Varys always speak in such bombastic and methaphorical ways, I wouldn't mind either of them going.

[wufwugy]

The United States loves its metaphor. It's the only way we can talk about sex without feeling dirty

[Penneywize]

I'd have to rewatch and pay more attention to eye colours and shit but I assumed the colours named by Melissandre referred to the names Arya speaks every now and then (and again in this episode, perhaps so this very link is made) Joffrey, Cersei, Illen Payne, etc. Seems highly unlikely these refer to her siblings but who knows.

The Theon arc is weird as fuck, not sure what to make of it. I fail to understand his torturer's role. He clearly seems to have started out as a chamber attendant or what have you, before freeing Theon in the first place. Then plays a role in saving Theon from being recaptured, only to bring him back himself. At first I thought (stupidly) that his bringing Theon back had something to do with what he said to him in terms of his motivations. In retrospect I guess it could be a power play on the part of the torturer. He's now got Theon all to himself. Seems like a pretty sadistic fuck though and far too intelligent to have just been some kind of chamber attendant.

One of the things we know about him is how the others addressed him when he "rescued" Theon from being recaptured. The one soldier called him a "little bastard", or something along those lines; this could either just be an insult or perhaps the dude actually is the bastard of someone important. Couldn't be the Bolton's bastard, right? I can't seem to remember if we've actually seen him or not...

[Penneywize]

About Littlefinger, from a storytelling pov I took that his killing of Ros could be a way of vilifying him to set up his death. But on the other hand he's making heavy speeches and like you say he's intertwined in the game for the throne so he has his own importance. But I just hate the way him and Varys always speak in such bombastic and methaphorical ways, I wouldn't mind either of them going.

Fuck yeah, the speech / montage / voiceover bit where he goes on about chaos being a ladder, over a scene of joffrey looking over the bolt-ridden body of Ros was just fucking awesome. Nicely culminated in ending with his talk of climbing, seamlessly transitioning into the climb at the wall in the north.

These are the types of things that you just can't get with a book. Not putting the books down obv, I haven't read them and I will once the series is done...

[wufwugy]

He's Bolton's bastard. It hasn't been made explicit, but the implications are all over the place. Bolton sent his bastard to Winterfell, dude outside the walls was blowing a horn at Theon, the X torture is a Bolton thing and suggests sadism, "little bastard". The only reasonable explanation is that it's Bolton's bastard, and what we don't know is how much Greyjoys are involved

And yeah I don't think it's referring to the siblings, but I'm also not a fan of Arya's list. It keeps changing, keeps becoming more irrelevant, and she ain't killing Hound. I've had her killing Mountain since the beginning though. However, that idea was predicated on the contrast between Mountain being enormous while Arya was learning the ways of the Dancing Master with a needle. A small girl using cunning and a tiny blade to kill the biggest baddest motherfucker who ever lived is a good story

[jackvance]

I'd have to rewatch and pay more attention to eye colours and shit but I assumed the colours named by Melissandre referred to the names Arya speaks every now and then (and again in this episode, perhaps so this very link is made) Joffrey, Cersei, Illen Payne, etc. Seems highly unlikely these refer to her siblings but who knows.

I don't really feel either theory, I took it to be something yet to be revealed, so not obvious. Her targets would be too obvious, and her siblings, I dunno, a bit too outlandish at this point. We'll have to see.

Btw I quite literally first-pumped after that scene because of the insinuation God of Death guy is making a return in some shape or form.

[jackvance]

About Theon, I don't get what the big deal is about these secrets he shared when he thought he was being saved. His captor went through a lot of trouble to do a fake rescue, killed 4 people for it, but it just seems so uninteresting.

[wufwugy]

I think the point is that the dude is just a sadist. Theon is an important character, and here he is getting flayed by a sadist. It's also part of setting up who the Boltons are. All we know about the Boltons so far is that they're players, Lord Bolton mentioned how good his clan is at torture, and there's a bunch of mysteries about them that have yet to be revealed

[JKDS]

Fuck yeah, the speech / montage / voiceover bit where he goes on about chaos being a ladder, over a scene of joffrey looking over the bolt-ridden body of Ros was just fucking awesome. Nicely culminated in ending with his talk of climbing, seamlessly transitioning into the climb at the wall in the north.

I was bored with this scene honestly. I feel like he laid on the metaphor too thick, and it became really obvious really quickly that the speech would end with a shot of the north.

[Penneywize]

I was bored with this scene honestly. I feel like he laid on the metaphor too thick, and it became really obvious really quickly that the speech would end with a shot of the north.

Fine, there was enough time in the episode left and the climbing scene had to be wrapped up before the end, look at you being so smart figuring that one out. Go read your fucking books.

[JKDS]

Ive forgotten more about the books then you'll ever know!

[ChipEaterMan]

Ros
King Geoffrey aimed at her cunt


Bullseye

[Jack Sawyer]

Sit down, Podrick. We're going to need details. Copious details.

[d0zer]

Bikes is smart, and he's not a dick enough to spoil people. But he clearly is a dick enough to tease nonbookreaders in the nonbookreaders' thread with unnecessary nonsense like this.

confirmed

[Stacks]

http://imgur.com/a/wyPYm

[Penneywize]

http://imgur.com/a/wyPYm

That's a lot of gifs. Could you boil it down to the two or three best and post them here, please?

Thanking you in advance,

Penneywize

[wufwugy]

That's a lot of gifs. Could you boil it down to the two or three best and post them here, please?

Thanking you in advance,

Penneywize

No

[Fielmann]

Hodor reminds me of one of my professors on that pic. It would be cool if he was just pretending his condition. Has any backstory been given about him? I think I first saw him when he suddenly jumped out from behind a bush, naked, in season 1 or early in season 2.

[BennyLaRue]

He just reminds me of Krist Novoselic. I keep expecting him to whip out a bass.

[boost]

If you didn't notice Hodor until s02, then you're doing something wrong when it comes to the activity of watching television. Are you sure it is turned on?

[Fielmann]

According to GOT wiki the scene I referred to was in S01E08 and it was the third episode in which he said anything. So it's not that bad.

[wufwugy]

Most of the remaining predictions I have for this season may or may not be influenced by shots I remember from trailers, so I can't really mention them. Others are somewhat influenced by spoilers from the dumbass 2p2 mods who banned me for saying accurate things, I wont mention those either. So I guess all I have left to say is that my dead pool for these last four episodes consists of exactly three characters. Two I've discussed for a while, Brienne and Talisa, and the third I haven't. Brienne I have at 80%, Talisa 20%, and the other around 60%. BTW Theon is not dying. You'd think he might, but if he does it means all this torture and mystery was a colossal waste of time. No way he dies

[boost]

He could die, if they somehow linked Yara into the mix. For now, Theon is our link to the Iron Islands.

[JKDS]

WHEN YOU PLAY THE GAME OF THRONES YOU LIVE OR YOU DIEEEEEEEEEEEE.

its a ladder mate. a big ole ladder. UNTIL ITS A WALL, WITH ICE THAT FALLS AND SHIT.

[wufwugy]

He could die, if they somehow linked Yara into the mix. For now, Theon is our link to the Iron Islands.

Just imagine how weird you would feel if they kill Theon now. You'd be thinking "why in the buttfuck did I just watch this guy get toyed with for so much damn airtime?"

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Theon is such a player in the Game of Thrones that he recovers completely, revolutionizes himself, and does something as mega as save the Starks from doom

[wufwugy]

How long can Bran live for? When it's season 6 he's gonna look like an angsty teenager yet in the story will still be like 8 or whatever

[JKDS]

I move to ban wufwugy for being a spoily book reader. HE KNOWS TOO MUCH

[wufwugy]

wufwugy...KNOWS TOO MUCH

This is correct

[boost]

I really like that arc.

Which makes me wonder if "this doesn't have a happy ending" is reverse foreshadowing, or maybe even it's sorta directed at the audience, and not even about Theon, but about the show as a whole.

[jackvance]

How long can Bran live for? When it's season 6 he's gonna look like an angsty teenager yet in the story will still be like 8 or whatever

He's obviously going through puberty now, very telling too when he suddenly looked so much older in his dreams. Doubtful he's going to die because he has his own storyline (sadly). I hoped the writer would atleast take into account that he's ageing. A substancial amount of time passes, for example Danni gave birth to her stillborn, so that was 9 months passing in the story already.

[wufwugy]

I really like that arc.

Which makes me wonder if "this doesn't have a happy ending" is reverse foreshadowing, or maybe even it's sorta directed at the audience, and not even about Theon, but about the show as a whole.

Could be either. I do suspect that the whole story doesn't have a happy ending. My pick for the winner of the game by the end is somebody that we haven't yet seen as a player (or at all), doesn't deserve it, and constructs a lie about why he/she is the rightful ruler in the same way that the show has pointed out every previous ruler has. The endgame is the same as the beginning and every other point: chaotic and illusory.

I've been considering going so far as to say that Dany doesn't even make it to KL. I think that would be good because if she does and she has her dragons, it's kinda the end of the story. So I have something like her rising up in Essos, conquering a lot of peoples and looking unstoppable and charismatic, but then her dragons start dying, and she goes batshit. I could enjoy the overall Danaerys story if she gains all the power in the world without "gaining all the power in the world"


On a different topic, I want Jaime to be back in KL more than anything. More than I want to know what's going on with Theon or Gendry or anybody. There's been a lot of growth in Jaime's story, and seeing him with his family and without his hand is curiously the most exciting thing for me. I'm assuming Bolton does send him back. I don't see why he wouldn't. Jaime's arc is constructed in such a way that he needs to return anyways


My read on Theon is that his father knows and approves of the torture and it's a part of forcing his son to be true "iron born". Yara probably knows but doesn't approve

[wufwugy]

He's obviously going through puberty now, very telling too when he suddenly looked so much older in his dreams. Doubtful he's going to die because he has his own storyline (sadly). I hoped the writer would atleast take into account that he's ageing. A substancial amount of time passes, for example Danni gave birth to her stillborn, so that was 9 months passing in the story already.

I think the reason we're not seeing much of Rickon is because he's more important later, and if we saw a bit of him now, how much he ages would look really awkward.

Bran's story doesn't necessarily stop with him, it stops with Rickon, or something. IIRC Rickon saw his father in the tombs. He's got dat premonition too. My guess is it's of a more sinister variety than Bran and Jojen. If I was writing this, I would certainly make Rickon one of the most evil characters possible, he just doesn't know it yet. Of course the reason I'd do that is because every time he's mentioned, it's always with something creepy and dark: standing in the shadows while his mother ignores him, hanging with his scary ass dog in the crypt where he has visions of his father die. Granted, if Rickon does struggle with the Night and its Terror, I would think Bran would still have to be living to contrast him. Unless he kills Bran in the process of becoming a major player, which I love but I doubt will be the direction of the Stark family. However, it could be since Snow (and hey, maybe even Theon) will be sure to keep the Stark name good

All in all, I keep trying to find a way to seep into the meaning of the dire wolves. It can't be a coincidence that Ghost is a bright white color and Shaggy Dog is dark black and every time he's been prominent in the scene its when he's growling and barking


Can we talk about children of the forest? They've been mentioned directly in the show right, not just in the extras about backstory?

[jackvance]

Haven't spent any thought on Rickon yet, but you might be on to something. I do think this is Bran's sidestory though, with the dreams he's been having, he made new friends on the way, his almost comical entourage of the friendly simple-minded giant and the angry woman. The way it's presented with the premonitions, this sidestory feels like it's going to be important. Sadly, might I add, as it's my least favorite. Once Rickon comes into play, I think it's more likely he'll have his own story.

Btw need new ep!

[alexandrel]

love that thread

[jackvance]

Just had a thought and reread some posts from the last page. Aren't the eyes staring back at Arya simply the 3 people she had Jaqen kill? The darkness inside her is her willingness to kill, so it came at a price. How she's going to pay that price is what we'll have to see.

[wufwugy]

^I had that thought too, but I think Melisandre added "eyes you will extinguish forever", which suggests it hasn't happened yet

[boost]

I miss Jaquen

[a500lbgorilla]

I miss Jaquen

Bro coulda been in ever episode for all you know

[boost]

Nah, his awesomeness is too pervasive to go unnoticed.

[wufwugy]

Easily my least favorite episode

[Stacks]

Could Dany be any more badass?

[boost]

Easily my least favorite episode

I enjoyed it, but it was definitely a setup episode. Some exciting implications... The Hound and Arya is gonna be good gtd. I hadn't been previously annoyed by Bran's arc, but his scene in this episode was a drag. Fucking get on with it already. Theon was disturbing, it really has passed the "possible for a happy ending" threshold for Theon.

So yeah, not the greatest episode, but it has me excited for the final three.

[wufwugy]

Yeah Dany was easily the best part of the episode. I am thoroughly pleased with her

I don't know how much of my problems with the episode stem from losing all interest in the Theon stuff. Sexual torture is a whole new level, and I just don't want to watch it. I hold realism as the highest aesthetic virtue, but I still can't handle certain kinds of realism.

The Brienne and the bear stuff was exceedingly silly. I can't stand action scenes with animals because they're always awful. I could ignore the ridiculous climb scene from the previous episode, but apparently not this one.

Looks like they breathed new life into Brienne. She was snugly written out of the story, but having Jaime save her does provide some good character development

I'm getting serious mixed messages on Talisa. Her scene with Robb was dripping with subtext, but two different avenues. We don't need to see how much she means to Robb unless something happens with that (like he loses her), but significant time in the scene was about just that. While watching the scene, I got the feeling she's begging to be killed, but that could be my bias. On the other side, why was she writing her mother, speaking Valyrian, and from Volantis if it isn't because she's a player too. Just watch as Melisandre is her fucking sister

Shae can die already

The Osha scene didn't need to happen. We already know about the wights and we already know she hates dark magic. The writers could push the plot to a scene down the road where those factors are all in play and do just fine without us also knowing about Osha's boyfriend.

Hound and Arya will be fun. I was initially thinking Jaqen would appear out of the shadows. Also a fan of the return of the God of Death. He doesn't get any play

Tywin/Joff scene was great, but not what I've been hoping for. I guess we're probably not going to get Joff going bonkers then Tywin bitchslapping him. Joff was acting like a reasonable adult for the first time in the series.

A little upset at how many opportunities Snow had to acknowledge that Ygritte knew nothing. I assume the writers saw that dynamic, but don't know why they wouldn't reference it. Maybe they want to make Snow seem stalwart by not having wit, but it also makes him brooding

[wufwugy]

I enjoyed it, but it was definitely a setup episode. Some exciting implications... The Hound and Arya is gonna be good gtd. I hadn't been previously annoyed by Bran's arc, but his scene in this episode was a drag. Fucking get on with it already. Theon was disturbing, it really has passed the "possible for a happy ending" threshold for Theon.

So yeah, not the greatest episode, but it has me excited for the final three.

I think I'm partially let down in that I expected this to be the episode where shit starts going down.

It's strange to have so much exposition this deep into a season. I've never seen anything like it before.

[jackvance]

Not the best one no. The Dani stuff and the joffrey/Tywin confrotation were my favorite parts. Tywin was more cordial than I would have expected but it worked nicely, and Joffrey seemed for once to actually pay attention.

And now the crap.. more Bran snore stuff; Talisa gave me a strange vibe (was the actress distracted or should I read into that performance as it was intentional?) but I don't care about her. And Shae, just fucking die already. Maybe they're not showing us the parts where she's actually nice to Tyrion, but she never gives him any reason to actually like her. Since they met she's done nothing but complain and whine. Dump the bitch already. A friend of mine is only at ep 3 of season 2 and he already hates her with a passion. And it only gets worse.

The bear scene was remarkably done quite well, considering how animal scenes normally go. The only problem is that we lost so much needless time with it, while all you want to see is Jaimie return to King's Landing already.

The Theon torture, I liked it although I'm really starting to feel for Theon. It was so obviously part of the torture what the girls were doing, and that was played out pretty well. From what I've heard, the sweetness + pain mix is a WAY harsher torture than just pain. They actually did this in the middle ages to break guys that wouldn't succumb to just torture (not the chicks, but alternating torture with kindness). I liked that, the weird boy means serious bussiness.

But let's hope next week brings the action on.

[d0zer]

I think greyjoy's getting way too much screentime. We get it, he's being tortured a lot, and the dude torturing him is a creative sadist. That's been established long before now, get to the f'n point

[Penneywize]

I would like to offer a moment of silence for Theon's legendary penis.

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[a500lbgorilla]

This ep was written by GRRM himself.

[bikes]

ALL HAIL GRRM!

[jackvance]

This ep was written by GRRM himself.

Explains all the extra naked.

[wufwugy]

There is very little rising action this season, which blows since rising action is the most important aspect of plot, and one of the reasons Breaking Bad and Boardwalk Empire are so good is a steady focus on it. You can have shitty exposition, shitty resolution, and a merely adequate climax as long as the rising action is stellar. Season 1 had superb rising action and that's one of the reasons its among the best seasons of any show. In season 3, Danaerys' story appears to be the only one with somewhat steady rising action. The Jon Snow storyline would be #2, but it's severely lacking a few facets that would make it more directional, and thus feel like a steady incline.

The Theon stuff, Bran stuff, Arya/Gendry/Melisandre/Stannis stuff has no semblance of rising action whatsoever. I guess this was bound to happen when adapting novels

[jackvance]

It's more just this episode though, the previous ones had better flow.

[JKDS]

Im disappointed with the actor of jon snow. Hes not very enjoyable to watch, and half of that is because the actor took lessons from the Twilight leads. (not really, but i mean...he probably did).

Im having fun wathcing Theon suffer. Seriously, FUCK that guy. He burned some random kids and tried to take winterfell. Fuck that guy.

[wufwugy]

Noticed the possibly coolest part of the Tywin/Joff scene: walking into the chamber, Tywin pauses for a moment then continues forward again but the kingsguard doesn't follow. This is a demonstration of who's the real boss. Even the kingsguard knows. On first watch, I thought he was just pausing to gather his wits or pay respects to the crown or whatever.

This appears to be the first ep where the Lord of Light and Red God can be confirmed as the same entity. Did Syrio mention the god of death? If so, I have a theory that all these gods are the same. For a while, I've had a nagging feeling that the Lord of Light is merely masquerading as a holy entity, yet is actually demonic. Some evidence suggest this could be the case since this god creates evil smoke monsters, raises people from the dead, and loves to kill people in all these fire offerings and all the stuff with Jaqen. We kinda know that there isn't just one god, so this emphasis on the Red God being the "one true god" could be a little odd. However, I'm sure I'm wrong about all this because it doesn't seem the kind of thing this story is about

Isn't the Brotherhood in the same region that Jaime and Brienne will be traveling back to KL?

In other news, this season was partially ruined for me by the 2p2 mods and bookreader vigilantes

[wufwugy]

Also, looks like my kill list is way off. Brienne aint dying now that she was so close to death, and she apparently has some new purpose to play. Talisa isn't dying because she has a baby in her belly and speaks Valyrian. Shit is pissing me off. Bodies need to hit the floor

[ChipEaterMan]

[EasyT]

I'm a relatively casual watcher of the show, but I do read this thread. I'm actually a little put off by the latest Danaerys development. If you want to get your crown back take the boats and the gold and sail away. Don't stop at every fuk city and fix their culture (by RL 20th century standards). Her character just turned self righteous, and this driven leader turned into a royal bitch. I'm Danaerys and I'm keeping your money and will still make you appease me besides. What are you my ex-wife?!

Loved the Tywin/Goff scene. Would you like someone to carry you up the stairs? LOL. He was respectful, but pretty boldly telling the king to stop behaving like a child. And Goff is offended but knows reproaching Tywin might be a mistake. Really the first indications that there are limits to his bad behavior.

Ygritte is both hot and a great character. Making fun of Jon Snow and then telling him he may not tear her imaginary silk dress. Loved it.

[Fielmann]

Time for a new deathlist then. I'm thinking there should be someone from Dany's company. She has made a transition from 'good' towards 'bad' (which makes sense because in her original ultra-goodness she was not enough of a balanced character to join a fight for the throne) and there is time for some repercussions and sacrifices. Also, she has seen continuous success for too long. Also the 'We have powerful friends' clearly notes there are troubles ahead.

Selby shouldn't die, otherwise what was the point.
Mormont's death would suit very well. To die because of Dany and while fighting to free the slaves would be a perfect end to his life. However, there is that thing with the sword and with him being lord commander's son.
That leaves Missandei and/or Grey Worm.

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I'm still thinking Tyrion could die and I'm thinking it might be by suicide. He has been wrapped up in a classic tragic dilemma of love and obligations. Plus he has been doing absolutely nothing important nor interesting for the whole season (a book-keeper?!) so it would no longer be a great loss to the story or to the show. It also seems to me that Jaime's return to King's Landing and his personality transformation will somehow make things worse for Tyrion.

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I wouldn't be surprised if Ygritte died, even though it would be a pity. The conflict within Jon is made bigger and more sinister with each episode.

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Obviously, Theon's torturer will die as Theon gets free.

[oskar]

I end up enjoying these episodes more after the fact when I piece the stories together in my head. While I'm watching I find myself annoyed when they constantly cut to another storyline, but when I imagine them as a continuous piece I like them quite a lot. Even the one with Theo. Even though I don't see what the point of his character is in the show, his story reminds me of a medieval take on kafkas penal colony where they put him through all this pointless protocol in the dilusion that somehow justice will be served if all the levers are pulled just at the right time.

[wufwugy]

I'm a relatively casual watcher of the show, but I do read this thread. I'm actually a little put off by the latest Danaerys development. If you want to get your crown back take the boats and the gold and sail away. Don't stop at every fuk city and fix their culture (by RL 20th century standards). Her character just turned self righteous, and this driven leader turned into a royal bitch. I'm Danaerys and I'm keeping your money and will still make you appease me besides. What are you my ex-wife?!

I don't see it like this at all, and would be upset with any other approach. She hasn't turned self-righteous, she has always been self-righteous about her Targaryenness. It's sensible from her since every Targaryen is like this and she is indeed the last remaining dragon (as far as she knows). Furthermore, from the beginning, she has been used by others against her will and this experience has given her great convictions. She has chosen to be a great ruler and a great person. When she was Khaleesi, she cared for the downtrodden; when she became Mother of Dragons, she cared for the downtrodden; and now that she's Breaker of Chains, she is acting upon her convictions with to the greatest of her capacity

This isn't about her being power-hungry, but about her using power and gifts as a means to do what is right. She's the successful Ned. Ned thought he was being honorable, but really wasn't, and he died because of it and screwed everything up in the process; Dany is acting in a truly honorable fashion and is winning because of it.

On top of that, she isn't in any trouble and she knows it. She is the "rightful ruler", thus she must act like it. If she wants to free slaves, then by golly, she will. Her sensibilities are not selfish and aristocratic, but if she were to take the gold and the ships and move on, they would be. So far, she's the only character with power in the entire show that actually does what's right instead of just what suits them. Even Robb is acting extremely selfishly, he takes advantage of his power to appease his desire. On the contrary, Dany uses her power to put an end to suffering

I was never on Team Danaerys until this development. She's got dat dragonblood, a good heart, and a strong will. She's the hero to end all heroes

[jackvance]

It also annoyed me she just went on to free the slaves, but I just figure she has some self-interest in it aswell. These slaves will be her followers.

[wufwugy]

Besides, moving on would be a terrible military decision. She needs a substantially bigger army to take on Westeros, and nobody is just going to give it to her. She's creating a Khalasaar of people who love her. There was really no other reasonable option than to turn to the nearest city after Astapor.

I suspect she will eventually unite the Dothraki as well, but may not. I hope so. I want her to create the greatest army the world has ever seen. After that, I'm not sure what I think should happen with her, but she needs to be when a Habsburg meets a Genghis meets a Roosevelt with the heart of a Mother Teresa

[wufwugy]

Grey Worm is my new favorite character. He's still not big enough of a role to put some thought into, but he pwned the hell out of his couple scenes. Since the Unsullied were introduced, I wanted to know much more about them. I'm honestly happy that at least one Unsullied has a name WRT the story, but I doubt they'll do much with them other than use them as props

[boost]

Has a name WTF the story? What do you mean?

But yeah, he's bad ass. I like that they have a fairly skinny guy playing the role. Shows that for the unsullied, individual might isn't the end all be all-- like, they are pretty much the antithesis of the Dothraki.

[wufwugy]

WRT = with respect to. They all have names, but the only one we know is his. That's all I meant with WRT

[boost]

Ah, ok. Right, yeah, I agree, it's good that they named at least one. But it was really slick how they did it, because they pretty much named them all when the translator explained that they all have names to remind them that they are scum, and then gave examples.

Just enough of a frame work for decent fan fiction to be written. Bobba Fett on the other hand was too mysterious, and therefore the fan fiction written about his past felt like it had nothing to do with the character, and just felt forced overall. And by Bobba Fett fan fiction, I mean Star Wars I-III.

[wufwugy]

Star Wars I-III don't exist. Just like Terminator 3, Godfather 3, and Alien 3

[jackvance]

And the matrix 2+3

[boost]

The Animatrix often gets forgotten, but it was really good.

[ChipEaterMan]

[ChipEaterMan]

[Penneywize]

Imagine how awkward it was to shoot that scene.

[boost]

I wonder if they just CGI'd the breast. Would have made it far less awkward-- I mean, obviously the breast is not real, but a prosthetic one would have been almost as weird as him suckling on her real one.

[a500lbgorilla]

100% fake tit. Not computer animated.

[wufwugy]

Not interested in them making a return. Except, perhaps, if Littlefinger is able to manipulate them; he can make lots of things fun. But the Eyrie sucks and I don't want to know more about it