Game of Thrones TV Thread **HBO-Purists ONLY**

[baudib]

omg marry him

[wufwugy]

who? the sneaky crafty wily ginger who's just trying to get comfy? sure thing, boss

[wufwugy]

Think I noticed something nifty: Maester Luwin never sent the ravens to Pyke, like Theon commanded. He probably sent them all over, which would explain why Robb got three ravens from three different places at the same time. This means that Theon is gonna get fuuuuuuucked.

On top of that, the guy who's leading the force to retake Winterfell is the son of the guy who thinks flaying somebody is always the answer. I think Theon is in for a really, really, really bad time. Then he'll die shortly thereafter


I wonder if GRRM realized that he's writing the Wildlings to be much different than perceived. This is borne out of comments from Halfhand like "she'll bury an axe in you if given half a chance". This type of thing is a setup for why preconceptions are later going to be shattered. Also, there's some serious foreshadowing in Halfhand telling Jon "you can't tame a wild thing, can't trust them". This means that Jon will have to do just that. My guess is with Ygrette


As the world's biggest lush for a good love story, I'll say there's very little actual chemistry between Robb and What's-her-face, but a ton between Jon and Ygrette. I'm positive a love story develops out of Robb and that girl, but I guarantee it's not going to be that good

[wufwugy]

Saw this on /b/ in a "pick one to bang" thread. Fuckin lol'd at number 9

[baudib]

Brienne FTW.

[Penneywize]

Man that greasy tomboy he nailed went from a 2/10 to a 7/10 when she disrobed, eh?. butterface but slammin' body amirite? I hope she kills Theon, that'd be cool but it probably won't go down like that.

What in the fuck. I have heard of high standards and shit, but man, jesus.

First off a 2/10 for that chick when she's all rugged and dirty and shit is still ridic low. Where does say, 40% of the female population fall, in your books? I am referring to any woman over 35 and overweight, or just plain ugly, etc etc. Do these women get 2/10? or do you have a huge grouping at 1/10 or 0/10?

Clean that chick up, she's an 8/10 easily. Add makeup and shit and she gets up to 8.5 at least. And I'm not even especially talking about her body.

Damn, I remember seeing her in season 1 when Theon hit on her in the first place and I realized even then she could be hot if she weren't all nasty and fucking dirty.

Anyway, in conclusion, you're crazy.

[boost]

She's never an 8.5, but neither is she ever a 2.

Anyways, the only scale of any use is the binary scale.



Ya, wuf, I picked up on Halfhand's foreshadowing on my rewatch. I've definitely got a crush on Ygrette. She's pretty, but it's the attitude that really does it, am patiently waiting more screen time with her.

Random: Some game was on TNT at the bar I work at, it ended, and then Braveheart came on. I was taken aback by how bad the costumes and sets were... That was a huge budget movie, and compared to GoT the props and sets and all that look like something from a highschool play. It's crazy what skilled prop masters/costume designers/cinematographers can do to really immerse you in a fictional world. I tend to be really picky about art direction, but GoT has not let me down yet, every costume/set is absolutely pitch perfect for me.

[d0zer]

What in the fuck. I have heard of high standards and shit, but man, jesus.

<removed faux-statistics and level0 interpretation of hyperbole>

She got the manface bro, and when you can't see a body, you just have to assume she had a good one simply because she's an actress. I did no such thing when calling her uggo.

[wufwugy]

She's pretty for sure, but not at all my type. You might be able to say that she has some slight andro, but looks more just like a lesbian than anything

[wufwugy]

Brienne FTW.

lol George Costanza

[d0zer]

Holding firm on 7/10

[wufwugy]

More on the chick who plays Osha, she does actually look really good, but also in that lesbian sense. She looks like the kind who would get cast to play a lesbian, and the type that lesbian and bi chicks thing is gorgeous

[d0zer]

here's a flattering pic that really makes her look not-male:

[boost]

ya, that last pic is kinda changing my opinion. At least when she was younger she was really cute... but who's the ugly dude carrying her?

[d0zer]

exactly

[wufwugy]

at first i was like: you out yo damn mind

but then i was like: oh it's a bran joke

[boost]

exactly

^5

[BennyLaRue]

at first i was like: you out yo damn mind

but then i was like: oh it's a bran joke

That's not a bran joke. There's no mention of pooping well.

[wufwugy]

What plotlines/characters have died without explanation? Tyrion's dagger, Alliser Thorne and the Wight hand, Benjen Stark, Ser Barristan Selmy, The Greatjon....

[JKDS]

What you mean died? Half of those are explained, like the nights watch sending out a platoon to determine Benjen's fate

[dranger7070]

I think A Man is becoming one of my favorite characters of all time. He's like the perfect cross between handsome and rugged, serious and playful, badass and thoughtful, loyal and unpredictable

It could also be that he looks like Brad Pitt. I used to fucking hate Brad Pitt because all the chicks love him (so all that haterade in my veins began flowing), but after I watched some of his better roles, he turned out to be a legit as fuck actor

Curious what you consider to be his better roles?

[boost]

If Selmy was never mentioned again, I wouldn't see that as a plothole in the least bit. His forced retirement worked as a device to show how tactless Cersei is. And it was a good way to write one of the "old guard" characters off the show without him losing his head.

Alliser Thorne definitely seems to be a plothole, as we have seen characters travel pretty remarkable distances since he left the wall.

Benjen can't be a plothole while the expedition north of the wall arc is still going.

Tyrion's dagger... ya, I don't know...

[wufwugy]

Curious what you consider to be his better roles?

Mainly Fight Club, Snatch, and Inglourious Basterds. Probably Kalifornia and his small bit in True Romance. Others liked him in Seven and Twelve Monkeys, I don't remember those. Babel was good, but I didn't care

[boost]

You neglected to include Troy(2004) in your list. I would like to know why.

[wufwugy]

It was okay. Pitt was good in it, but I didn't much care for it.

[boost]

It was okay. Pitt was good in it, but I didn't much care for it.

wait, what level are you on?

[wufwugy]

Oh I get it, you thought both the movie and Pitt's role sucked. Which is fine

[Renton]

Troy was one of the worst movies of all time.

[bikes]

Better than Face Off?

[dranger7070]

I liked Troy better than King Arthur.

[Jack Sawyer]

Troy is better than Alexander in any case

Plus you guys forgot to mention my favorite character of all time, Rusty Ryan. OF ALL TIME.

Danny Ocean: [to Rusty] Ten oughta do it, don't you think? [Rusty says nothing] You think we need one more? [Rusty still says nothing] You think we need one more. [Yet again, Rusty says nothing] Okay, we'll get one more.

And that boxer in Snatch. The dude's legit

[JKDS]

Franky Four fingers was a really great roll for him. Though i was more of a fan for his role in Fearless

[a500lbgorilla]

I liked Troy. Hecktor versus Achilles was pretty sweet.

And Ocean's 11 is one of the easiest watches of all time.

[dranger7070]

So we're all in agreement? Brad Pitt = BOSS.

Anyways, I'm with baudib. The TV series has me saying, 'Where the fuck was this?' a LOT this season. Still amazing though.

[wufwugy]

hey look it's dranger watching GoT

[baudib]

I like Brad Pitt as an actor quite a bit. I really appreciate the fact that he seemed to work really hard at improving when he could have easily just mailed it in and banged a lot of hot chicks while making dumb movies.

Troy is hardly great, but it's pretty watchable compared to a lot of other stuff in sword & sandals genre. For instance, it's about 100 times better than Beowulf.

I even liked Interview With a Vampire, when he obviously hated his character.

[dranger7070]

@wuf: sums up season 2 perfectly from my perspective lol.

[wufwugy]

wtf i just got banned from 2p2 for posting spoilers even though a book reader said i didnt post any spoilers

[d0zer]

wufwugy: the dranger of 2p2

[JKDS]

lol link! i wanna read what you said!

[JKDS]

Oh, i guess they woulda deleted the post :3

[baudib]

wtf i just got banned from 2p2 for posting spoilers even though a book reader said i didnt post any spoilers

dirty fucking bookreader whore

[JKDS]

Im disappointed in the acting and budget for this episode. Those scenes with Dany were really hard to watch, and the tarred bodies looked too much like props. Like, if i were to make a prop, thats what itd end up looking like.

[wufwugy]

pretty sure they spent most of their budget trying to make jaime as handsome as d0zer

[JKDS]

Ser Jaime Lannister the Kingslayer. Call him what he is.

[baudib]

Spoiler: Show

I wanna fuck Cersei from behind

Spoiler: Show

Dany, too

[dranger7070]

Dany moreso than Cersei imo.

[Deanglow]

Im disappointed in the acting and budget for this episode. Those scenes with Dany were really hard to watch, and the tarred bodies looked too much like props. Like, if i were to make a prop, thats what itd end up looking like.

I dunno I've seen a lot of charred bodies on the net and they looked pretty real to me. Agree that Dany is a pretty poor actress. <3 Jorah though

[JKDS]

The issue i had, was just that they looked like gingerbread men. The arms and legs of both were completely symmetrical and had no bends in them at all. It just looked really really off for a human body, and looked much more like a 3d stick figure drawing.

[boost]

I'm gonna throw this out there... the Lannisters are going to turn on Joffrey. Tyrion already called him a lost cause, and the scene with Cersei.. she comes out of denial and admits that he is a complete abomination.

oh, and, wtf did cat ask for the sword for? No way did Jaime get an off screen death. Right?

[wufwugy]

I'm gonna throw this out there... the Lannisters are going to turn on Joffrey. Tyrion already called him a lost cause, and the scene with Cersei.. she comes out of denial and admits that he is a complete abomination.

oh, and, wtf did cat ask for the sword for? No way did Jaime get an off screen death. Right?

But she also said the only thing you can do is love your children. I also don't think they can/will go against him unless Tywin is dead because he won't want to

Plus Team Joffrey FTWWWWWWWWWWWWW

[wufwugy]

I'm seriously upset that his name is Mance Rayder. That shit is so goddamn stupid. It's only slightly better than Mace Windu, which is pretty much WOAT name. I would love to be on Team Mansraeder, but can't be on Team Mance Rayder

My aesthetic nittery would make Stannis proud

[baudib]

Does Tywin suspect who Arya is? He would have to, wouldn't he? How many daughters of noble-born houses are slumming around with the Night's Watch, posing as boys, carrying swords?

[boost]

Does Tywin suspect who Arya is? He would have to, wouldn't he? How many daughters of noble-born houses are slumming around with the Night's Watch, posing as boys, carrying swords?

Everyone seems to have difficulty viewing things from Tywin's perspective. There are a ton of noble born girls, as exampled by Jaime's latest victims, and the abundance of cousins and whatnot that Tywin has on his war council. On top of that, he never knew she was traveling from KL with the Night's Watch, as they were mixed in with all the locals, he never knew about needle, and he has no clue that Arya isn't safely being held hostage in KL. He is clearly very observant, but there is just no reason for him to guess that she is a Stark with the info he has.

[wufwugy]

Does Tywin suspect who Arya is? He would have to, wouldn't he? How many daughters of noble-born houses are slumming around with the Night's Watch, posing as boys, carrying swords?

wait so you dont even know how that story develops?

[wufwugy]

that strikes me as a pretty big spoiler

[boost]

I'd prefer to bookreaders didn't tell us that specific things are or are not in the book. I'm not sure how what has been said is a big deal, but I just really don't like where this leads. There is a thread where you can openly compare and contrast the book and the series. This is not that thread.

[a500lbgorilla]

Not really, there's a pretty huge divergence from the books at this point in the show.

All I'm hearing is that the books weren't good enough to make the show.

[wufwugy]

Not really, there's a pretty huge divergence from the books at this point in the show.

What do you mean by "divergence" and by "pretty huge"?

Like has Arya not even been Tywin's servant and none of this stuff happened, or is the timing different and it's taking you four books to explain what's going on in two seasons, or what?

Are some of the plotlines altogether different, or is it simply just some mildly different ways in telling the stories?

[Penneywize]

I would really like it if this discussion stopped right here and the last few posts were deleted.

But, I'm a spoiler nit and had something pretty major spoiled for me by a book-reading purist.

[JKDS]

K

[d0zer]

pretty sure they spent most of their budget trying to make jaime as handsome as d0zer

He was almost as handsome as me when I'm covered in my own shit.

[Stacks]

There goes dozer being all modest again.

[d0zer]

modesty just gets in the way of the truth

[bikes]

Hard to be humble when you are the best

[Penneywize]

So, back on topic, am I the only idiot who thought the two charred corpses were that of Bran and the other Stark kid? I explained my rationale to one of my friends who also watched the show, and he proceeded to call me a dumbass. Watching it again I'm pretty sure I'm wrong though.

Wouldn't make sense from a plot perspective obviously, which was why I was all the more shocked at the end of the episode. Thing I find weird is, if it's just two random kids (presumably the children of the grey-haired dude at the farm that helped the Stark party escape) then why does the Maester get all overly dramatic, shouting "NnnnnnnoOOoooo!" and shit? Drama queen.

[a500lbgorilla]

Does Tywin suspect who Arya is? He would have to, wouldn't he? How many daughters of noble-born houses are slumming around with the Night's Watch, posing as boys, carrying swords?

Arya's snapback when Tywin presses for information was pretty on the money. Tywin knows that she is educated and quick and may be high born, but her story is rather robust and believable so I assume he does believe it.

I'm most looking forward to more Tywin + Arya scenes.

[d0zer]

agreed, the arya tywin scenes are fantastic.

[wufwugy]

So, back on topic, am I the only idiot who thought the two charred corpses were that of Bran and the other Stark kid? I explained my rationale to one of my friends who also watched the show, and he proceeded to call me a dumbass. Watching it again I'm pretty sure I'm wrong though.

There's no way it's them. It had to be a couple of the orphan boys that were running around, and Theon is trying to pull tricks or something.

It can't be Bran and Rickon because it does nothing to satisfy the arcs they (mainly Bran) have been given. Why burned bodies? Why even kill them? Where's Osha and Hodor (Hodor)?

If that's Bran and Rickon I consider that some of the worst writing I've ever seen

[boost]

I thought it was them for like 20 seconds, and I was very sad. But then I was like, lol, can't be them, plot arcs, etc.

[Penneywize]

Are we at least in agreement that the maester is a drama queen.

[boost]

man, people have such difficulty separating their semi-omniscient view from a characters perspective. Yes we know it is Arya, but that doesn't mean that it is obvious to Tywin. Yes we are reasonably sure that it isn't the Stark boys, but that doesn't mean that it is obvious to Luwin. He is a fictional character who is not aware that their arcs have not been completed and that from a story telling perspective they pretty much can't die yet.

cliffs: he think's those are the Stark boys, he is genuinely hysterical.

[a500lbgorilla]

Lol.

Put spoiler tags on your knowing laughter.

[boost]

some thoughts:

Theon may not have known the fate of the two orphans until we saw their fate. He had a rather shocked look on his face. The only way I can figure this is if he gave the boys to his men and said "bind them and make sure the people can't tell they aren't the Stark boys when we put them on display." Theon was thinking "tie them up and put hoods over their heads, maybe take their shirts off to show the lashes we've given them." But his men are far crueler then he could imagine and they executed his vague directive in a most dark way. Edit: I mean to say, that he would have displayed the hooded and gagged orphans alive.

What the hell is going on in Qarth? What makes Dany and her dragons the key to Xaro's claim? Why couldn't he just gather the 13 and have Dracula's magical doppelgangers slit 11 throats last Tuesday?

Why is Tuesday a more comedic suggested day of the week for some random event than say Saturday, or even Thursday?

I think Cat may have castrated Jaime. He mocks her late husband by saying he is more honorable than him because he has at least been faithful to his sister. What an ironic punishment for such disrespect, he will live out the rest of his days having only fucked his sister. This may be a long shot, but we did have Theon mention eunuchs in the episode.

[wufwugy]

some thoughts:

Theon may not have known the fate of the two orphans until we saw their fate. He had a rather shocked look on his face. The only way I can figure this is if he gave the boys to his men and said "bind them and make sure the people can't tell they aren't the Stark boys when we put them on display." Theon was thinking "tie them up and put hoods over their heads, maybe take their shirts off to show the lashes we've given them." But his men are far crueler then he could imagine and they executed his vague directive in a most dark way. Edit: I mean to say, that he would have displayed the hooded and gagged orphans alive.

Plus he is embracing the monster he's becoming, which he also fears, or something

What the hell is going on in Qarth? What makes Dany and her dragons the key to Xaro's claim? Why couldn't he just gather the 13 and have Dracula's magical doppelgangers slit 11 throats last Tuesday?

Zohan Zorro Dicksucks is a lame character. There's no need for him. If Doppleganger can kill 11 dudes, he can kill 12 then take the key to the vault. There's probably something about Zorro Dicksucks that we don't know yet

Personally, I think this is fantastic plotting, and turns one of the boringest stories into something really cool. Dany gonna have to do the impossible to get her dragons back, perhaps she won't even get them, and perhaps she'll end up totally fucked in a Viserys sort of way i.e. her centrality and power is taken from her by an even more central and powerful character/plot. I doubt that will happen, but I wouldn't mind it. Masked Lady has got to be a legit sorceress (Melisandre's holy twin OMG), and she gonna help Jorah and Dany big time

I think Cat may have castrated Jaime. He mocks her late husband by saying he is more honorable than him because he has at least been faithful to his sister. What an ironic punishment for such disrespect, he will live out the rest of his days having only fucked his sister. This may be a long shot, but we did have Theon mention eunuchs in the episode.

I can't see that. Would be out of character for a Stark to maim their most valued prisoner