Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
Theon is not cut out for what he's trying to do. The first night of his campaign and he's trusting any robe-dropping slut that asks. He can't fight for the Starks now, since they're honor bound to have his head.

Renly was not two-faced or somehow different in private, he was just trying to become a different king than Robb. Renly wanted to be a king for his people to love, which has its merits since it probably means great social policy during his reign, while Robb is trying to be a king for his people to follow. It also has his merits since his would be a kingdom of laws. You should have some respect for the dead. Renly didn't bask in how people worshiped him, he understood his skill-set, his tool-kit, for being king. We see Robb developing a different skill set with all his military decisions.

Ya, I may have overstated what I was trying to illustrate. But it was certainly all a game to Renly, he was very much a politician. He was very much into the aesthetics of it all. I'm not saying he was a bad guy, but his motivations for being such a good guy were less than pure. While Robb's motivations for doing what he is doing are steeped in honor and duty. Robb isn't a down to earth, friendly guy as a means to some end, he just is a good guy... he is his father's son.

Up thread wuf predicted that Theon's remaining breaths are numbered, but I'm not sure I concur. If Theon dies, then what comes of the Greyjoys? Theon's arc may seem exhausted, but the Greyjoy arc isn't, and for their arc to continue I'd think Theon needs to live. But how he continues to live? I really don't know. Things are looking grim for our favorite weak willed latchkey.

edit: rilla, wtf.. did you tell me to respect the dead? They are dead, fuck them. And on top of that, no one is even dead, it's a story... you know, fiction, not real.