Frequent Poster with Girl Problems

[bikes]

OP.

So you wanna go out, and you wanna get down. But you wanna get down for free? There's nothing really wrong with showing a little skin if you only wanna get in her head. Also there's nothing really wrong with giving a little in.

[Chelle]

Just tell her you're just going to put the tip in.

[bikes]

failing that, pull a ke$ha and take a dirty picture. just take a dirty picture. take a dirty picture for her.

[Chelle]

I said send a penis pic to him earlier.
That or a cute cat.

[hartbraker]

Cause I just love my phone way too much lol. That kinda sucks!

It's alright. I'm used to not seeing them that much.

Well that's good at least lol. I don't see my parents that foten either, mostly just cause I'm rarely ever home

Why are you never at home? I am an introvert so I find it hard to leave! Haha.

___

Holy shit, I probably shouldn't have said that. She's going to think I'm a total loser noob and she'll figure out I'm a virgin. What am I going to say when she's like you are a loser? Fuck, I think I really screwed this shit up.

[bikes]

when she says you're a loser tell her this.

ok well i'm gonna go talk to this person cause she's waaayyyy hotter than you anyway. talk to you never. bye.

[bikes]

[rong]

Wow, FTR kicked off good n propper.

So assuming this is legit, lets make a list of potential ops.

Ong is def in this list.

[rong]

Grunching btw

[bikes]

my money is on wufwugy or ongbonga.

[eugmac]

The quality of communication on a societal basis has steadily gone down ever since the dawn of the texting phenomenon. Anyway: between 60 to 93% of what we say is said using nonverbal communication, and this is completely lost nowadays.

Not to mention how people prefer to socialize with people on their chat lists, rather than those in their vicinity as they should.

As you can see, I hate this shit. Not just the people who walk straight into fountains while texting nor those who have to text and send bb pins on every fucking stoplight they find themselves in, but the damage it's doing to our society.

Jack's posts aren't getting enough love here, +1000000 my man. I find myself daily being guilty of this behaviour and I can't say I'm happy about it.

Here's how I met my fiancee. I played a concert, she came up to me afterwards and complimented the tone I make on my violin, I thought aww how nice, let me buy you a beer. We got chatting, drank lots more beer, ... loooots more beer. I blacked out. We did stuff that I actually can't even remember. Our first kiss? Don't remember it. She had rug burn all over, I don't remember how she got those. And so on, so forth.

I should preface all that with: I had been single for a good 2 years or more - my last gf had torn me to shreds and I was bitter towards women for a while. then i started making weak attempts at this dating stuff, but really weak. If I made any sort of attempt at dating, it was super cautious because I wasn't about to be burned again like the last time.

and then it was like all the sudden I collided with my fiancee, we hit it off, first purely physically then later at a deeper level, and all that fear of trusting women had just evaporated, as if over night.

Point of all that was - it's a different situation from yours, but one thing is always the same, and that's that you have no idea what's gonna hit you tomorrow, and there's no point in trying to be prepared. Find things that make you happy. For me, my male friends were absolute key during that rough patch I had after that nasty ex. They were like brothers to me and we had so much fun that it didn't really matter so much that I wasn't getting laid. Make sure you have a network of people like that, people in real life (i.e. not on the internet) that you can talk to, go to parties and be idiots together, just kinda let loose, enjoy college life together with. Those memories will stay with you a lifetime and I wouldn't trade that for anything, not more sex, NOTHING.

Jack's advice about feeling good about your body by eating well, exercising, also solid. Basically whatever gets you to the point where you feel happy with yourself. Everything follows after that. Get to the point where you feel like you're so awesome, you don't need anybody.

...

And then at some point in the future, you'll be seriously in love, and be proven that you were wrong after all, and you really, really need her.

Just a rant, just speaking out my experiences, but I hope there's some sort of useful content in there.

[rong]

Oh yeah, internet. Fuck, I don't know, I never did this online dating shit. Just chat about shit, play scrabble, then when you finally meet up, tell her her hair is nice and that her shoes match her coat. Win.

This is surprisingly good advice. Switch scrabble to say, not playing geeky internet games, and you're there.

[jackvance]

There is so much to say here, but practically, the best thing you can do is try to find some male friends that do well with women. Hang out with a player if possible. For one you will look cooler by association, but the most important thing is that you can emulate their mannerisms, and adapt their mindset about women. This will help you 100x more than any written advice.

[rong]

To expand to Sir Ongs-a-Lot, of course you feel she's special, that's not what I was referring to. The point of no one woman being special is because we do things like bend over backwards or become depressed at rejection because we feel like she's "special." But she's not, there are countless women who are just like her that you could like just as much if only you tried.


There is a good contrast on this between myself and my close friend. We both had really awful breakups with women we thought were "the one." My response was to pull back from dating and try to get over her intellectually, his response was "date as many women as possible." Well, it took me five years to get over that bitch (and I'm still not over many of the problems I created for myself in the process), and it took him like 8 months to get over his and he's been in much healthier relationship with a better women for a couple years now.

And he got laid more.

[rong]

Fun Fact: I'm not lesbo.

Now, apologize correctly.

lolz Jims is Chelle's bitch

[Chelle]

Men fear me because I'm ginger, 4 ft 11, and bat-shit crazy.
They dunno what the fuck to expect.

HOW CAN SO MUCH CHAOS BE PACKED INSIDE SUCH A SMALL, INNOCENT LOOKING CREATURE-FEMALE-THING?!

[wufwugy]

my money is on wufwugy or ongbonga.

im going with lukie

[eugmac]

There is so much to say here, but practically, the best thing you can do is try to find some male friends that do well with women. Hang out with a player if possible. For one you will look cooler by association, but the most important thing is that you can emulate their mannerisms, and adapt their mindset about women. This will help you 100x more than any written advice.

I have to respectfully disagree and say imitating some other dude ain't gonna do shit for you, just keep it real IMHO. You're not him, you're you.

[rong]

There is so much to say here, but practically, the best thing you can do is try to find some male friends that do well with women. Hang out with a player if possible. For one you will look cooler by association, but the most important thing is that you can emulate their mannerisms, and adapt their mindset about women. This will help you 100x more than any written advice.

This is awful, awful, awful advice. Do not find a friend who's a player and get advice.

[donkbee]

This is surprisingly good advice. Switch scrabble to say, not playing geeky internet games, and you're there.

the best girls like geeky internet games

except scrabble. i fucking hate scrabble

[bikes]

This is awful, awful, awful advice. Do not find a friend who's a player and get advice.

if the puas are wrong i don't want to be right obv.

[jackvance]

I have to respectfully disagree and say imitating some other dude ain't gonna do shit for you, just keep it real IMHO. You're not him, you're you.

I didn't say imitate, ofcourse you don't want to do that. It is on a way more subtle level, he will be able to see first hand how these more succesful people communicate with women which will help him more than anything the written word can do.

This is awful, awful, awful advice. Do not find a friend who's a player and get advice.

Trying to get advice would be stupid yes.

[Chelle]

You know how you get a girl to like you?

.....roofies.

[bikes]

You know how you get a girl to like you?

.....roofies.

failing that obtain a british accent and red hair.

[rong]

You see, sex shouldn't be the objective, not yet. You'd be getting way too far ahead of yourself. Your initial objective should be not to be a Pussy. This sounds stupid and simple, but it is neither.

Initially, you need to find common ground. This doesn't have to be a shared interest. Although its fine if it is. But it can be something she is interested that you can become interested in, or vice versa. The point of this is to have a fall back topic when for when you are struggling for conversation, so don't use it all up too soon.

More will follow, I gotta train some folk in something dull for half hour.

[WillburForce]

Just do it the British way.
Avoid all eye contact until you drunk enough. Then take her round the back of Lidl and fuck her.
EZ game.

[baudib]

Against all odds, there's actually good advice in this thread.

I think the most important thing was don't be a pussy. Bikes' pic summed it up well. Girls who are cute know they are cute. Because every fucking loser around them 24 hours a day makes them realize they are cute. Even if they don't admit it to themselves, they know that they can pretty much bang every guy around because every guy makes it known in some way that they want to bang her.

Except for the guy who doesn't give a shit. The guy who is married, or has a hot girlfriend, or gets laid by 3 different chicks every night. "Yeah, hey, you're OK, you've got tits, great. Fuck you, I bang 20 girls hotter than you a month."

That guy makes her all wet and moist and she'll do anything she can to get his attention and bang him. That's why hot chicks end up banging married dudes or douchebags instead of a mirrion nice guys who won't even cum in her mouth.

I'm 100% sure every guy can verify this: When you go through periods of being single/alone/desperate and having a decent relationship, you get exponentially more attention and interest from random women when you are feeling happy about yourself, confident, etc.

[rong]

So, don't arrange a meet before you have figured out your fall back convo.

Other than that, chat to her online on at least 3 different days before suggesting a meet. During those 3 days just be yourself and chat about whatever it is you've been up to or has been going on and see if you can build up some sort of rapport. If you can't, you're fucked. On to the next one. Except there is no next one, because you're a Pussy. But we're attempting to fix that. But seriously, just be yourself, she's going to discover what you are sooner or later if this goes anywhere so no point hiding it. If you truly have nothing if interest to offer her in a 10 min chat then she isnt for you.

Assuming you somehow manage to hold an online conversation for a minimum of 10 minutes on 3 separate occasion (I know, big ask) you should have some vague idea of her interests, assuming you haven't spent the whole of that time fapping whilst imaging her holding your hand. So use this info about her to suggest a date doing something she is interested in. This could be a coffee, a drink(much better), a walk somewhere, a fetish club, a game of tennis, I dunno, anything, w/e you think she might be willing to do.

If you get that far, celebrate your win. Things may go down hill from here.

[Ash256]

Jack's advice about feeling good about your body by eating well, exercising, also solid. Basically whatever gets you to the point where you feel happy with yourself. Everything follows after that. Get to the point where you feel like you're so awesome, you don't need anybody.

Yep. Work on your fundamentals so that every week you feel stronger, healthier, better looking, funnier and better at conversation.

Get out of your comfort zone.

I was in a similar situation to OP a couple of years ago and was really frustrated. I decided to work on my fundamentals, so I got myself some new clothes, started going to the gym, and started talking to a lot of women, regardless of situation. After a few months I got confident enough that I just thought fuck it - if someone's attracted to me, great, if not, who cares, I feel fundamentally good enough about myself that I don't care either way. The way that things panned out, a hot girl who I'd been friends with for a few months made the first move on me. We're still together almost 18 months later. I'm not sure if I've ever been so scared as I was when it came to losing my virginity, but that was just another situation where I had to get out of my comfort zone. After a week of not-so-great sex, I finally felt comfortable and things have been awesome since then. She wasn't an isolated incident either, since then I've had quite a few offers from hot girls, which I've turned down because I'm a faithful man who loves his other half.

In your position you will probably stumble upon PUA stuff like Mystery Method, etc. This stuff is entirely unnecessary in the long term, and a lot of its proponents have a very unhealthy attitude towards women and human interaction.

So yeah, work on fundamentals and self-confidence and the rest really will fall into place. Nature wants you to find someone and fuck like rabbits, fall in love, or both, you just have to get yourself correct for that to happen.

For more specific advice look here, this post changed my life: My big post on getting better with women by - TwoRags.com

[jyms]

Nobody here has guessed even close, and to OP

Cause I just love my phone way too much lol. That kinda sucks!

It's alright. I'm used to not seeing them that much.

Well that's good at least lol. I don't see my parents that foten either, mostly just cause I'm rarely ever home

Why are you never at home? I am an introvert so I find it hard to leave! Haha.

___
said that. She's going to think I'm a total loser noob and she'll figure out I'm a virgin. What am I going to say when she's like you are a loser? Fuck, I think I really screwed this shit up.

Your over thinking and under producing. What you want here is results, not to keep talking so she never says no. Your trying to hard to not push and putting off the inevitable. Stop trying to wait for offers or openings and ask her out for a coffee. If she says no then move on. It's POF for christ sake, it literally is called "Plenty of fish" for a reason. Stop being afraid of the answer and ask the question.

[Chelle]

failing that obtain a british accent and red hair.

I'm going to punch you in the face, azn.


ANYWAY.

I suggest if you suck at picking up girls go buy or download the book "The Tao of Badass". Pretty sure one of his main things is to look at a girls lips when she's talking, it makes her think about kissing/making out with you. It's true. I've used this move on a guy, it works for them too.

[Shotglass]

...Fuck, I missed the part where he's a virgin. Lol. Oh god, he's never getting laid unless he pays someone, or finds another virgin.

Convincing a guy of this is the kind of thing that will keep him afraid of women forever. Reality is that girls don't care and some actually like the type.

Wuf hit the nail on the head. I LOVE taking cherries.



All of you guys are waaaaayyyyyyyyyyy over thinking this. First: OP needs to get IRL after he chats a bit. He's only gong to get sexting or cybering in chat rooms.
Contrary to what y'all men are thinking, we want to fuck just as much (maybe more) than you men do.

[Shotglass]

Stop trying to wait for offers or openings and ask her out for a coffee. If she says no then move on. It's POF for christ sake, it literally is called "Plenty of fish" for a reason. Stop being afraid of the answer and ask the question.

^^^^Definitely this bold part.

[Chelle]

Wuf hit the nail on the head. I LOVE taking cherries.



All of you guys are waaaaayyyyyyyyyyy over thinking this. First: OP needs to get IRL after he chats a bit. He's only gong to get sexting or cybering in chat rooms.
Contrary to what y'all men are thinking, we want to fuck just as much (maybe more) than you men do.

WHY?! WHY WOULD YOU GIVE THIS INFO AWAY?!

[Shotglass]

WHY?! WHY WOULD YOU GIVE THIS INFO AWAY?!

It's hard to be drunk at 8:00am, but I'm doing a pretty damn good job
Besides, most guys are already thinking this. They're just too fucking scared to act on it. "omg. She's so out of my league. She'll never even talk to me."

Bullshit, grow some balls and ask....

[Chelle]

It's hard to be drunk at 8:00am, but I'm doing a pretty damn good job
Besides, most guys are already thinking this. They're just too fucking scared to act on it. "omg. She's so out of my league. She'll never even talk to me."

Bullshit, grow some balls and ask....

...Can I marry you?
By marry you, I mean like, make you my internet girlfriend/wife?

-I- don't even get approached, and I'm not even fucking scary looking. I'm 4 ft 11, tiny, and redhair, went to a metal concert a week or two back, dudes were looking at me like they were gonna' eat me for their last meal, yet no one approached me, and I'm sweet as sugar irl. This is metalheads we're talking about, aren't -they- supposed to have balls?

Ugh.

[Shotglass]

...Can I marry you?
By marry you, I mean like, make you my internet girlfriend/wife?

Sure, wth...
Besides, Ong and Red are already dreaming about it anyways

-I- don't even get approached, and I'm not even fucking scary looking. I'm 4 ft 11, tiny, and redhair, went to a metal concert a week or two back, dudes were looking at me like they were gonna' eat me for their last meal, yet no one approached me, and I'm sweet as sugar irl. This is metalheads we're talking about, aren't -they- supposed to have balls?

Ugh.

See, that's my point exactly. Even mst of the bikers that I hang out with act like they're intimidated by my tits. JFC, men, ask already...better yet...do...something, anything...other than stand there witha stupid look on your faces

[bigred]

I dream about shotty a ton....mainly to lynch shotty

[Shotglass]

I dream about shotty a ton....mainly to lynch shotty

so many lulz

aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrroooooooooooooooooooo

[WillburForce]

I dream about shotty a ton....mainly to lynch shotty

I think suggesting OP gets involved with lynch fantasy sex on his first time might be a bit too far.

[Chelle]

Sure, wth...
Besides, Ong and Red are already dreaming about it anyways



See, that's my point exactly. Even mst of the bikers that I hang out with act like they're intimidated by my tits. JFC, men, ask already...better yet...do...something, anything...other than stand there witha stupid look on your faces

dreaming about what? us?

swear to god, unless I'm alone with someone, they act like I'm going to like, rip their throat out or some shit, besides my nails and teeth, I'm harmless, so I really don't understand wtf. I've considered going full-out lesbo, but meh, I -really- -really- -really- like men, not boys, men, strong, confident, passionate about life and everything in it men. Not little pussy boys that are unsure of everything they do. One thing that bugs the fuck out of me is someone that has no drive, no will, no passion, no nothing, they're just floating around, waiting for shit to happen. It's like damn dude, take the bull by the fucking horns already. I mean, I know I have nothing going for me at the moment being all bat-shit crazy inside, but once that shit's fixed, it's mother fuckin' game time.

anyway - i'm bored, the old IV site hurts really bad, and I want a fucking shower with some actual shampoo instead of handsoap for shampoo. i can't wait till I get to go home and shower, i miss my body wash and shampoo.

[Shotglass]

dreaming about what? us?

swear to god, unless I'm alone with someone, they act like I'm going to like, rip their throat out or some shit, besides my nails and teeth, I'm harmless, so I really don't understand wtf. I've considered going full-out lesbo, but meh, I -really- -really- -really- like men, not boys, men, strong, confident, passionate about life and everything in it men. Not little pussy boys that are unsure of everything they do. One thing that bugs the fuck out of me is someone that has no drive, no will, no passion, no nothing, they're just floating around, waiting for shit to happen. It's like damn dude, take the bull by the fucking horns already. I mean, I know I have nothing going for me at the moment being all bat-shit crazy inside, but once that shit's fixed, it's mother fuckin' game time.

anyway - i'm bored, the old IV site hurts really bad, and I want a fucking shower with some actual shampoo instead of handsoap for shampoo. i can't wait till I get to go home and shower, i miss my body wash and shampoo.

Remember your birthday thread.

Also, the bold part is the most important, imo.

[Chelle]

fml, just searched for my birthday threads and one i made for spoon popped up in search. sadface.

anyway - shotty, you. me. naked. hospital bed. now.

[rong]

What happened to him? He don't come round these parts no more.

[Shotglass]

anyway - shotty, you. me. naked. hospital bed. now.

you promise to tie me up?

Maybe hot, evil nurse will walk in and join us.....

[Chelle]

IDK. I talk to him as little as possible. He's got his own life, new gf, w/e.

[dranger7070]

Fuck making connections.

Go to bar, preferably one with a dance floor. AVOID THE FUCKING DANCE FLOOR UNTIL AFTER 1am, VERY IMPORTANT!!!!

Go to the bar, order many many different kinds of beers and shots.

After you are good and fucked up, go to dance floor and look for the whoriest looking whore in the whorebar and just put your P on her A and idk, do something that people call dancing these days.

If after 5 minutes or so of doing this she doesn't ask you to go to her place, move to the next whoriest looking whore in the whorebar and repeat until you go home with some walrus.

[x] virginity lost

[Shotglass]

If after 5 minutes or so of doing this she doesn't ask you to go to her place, move to the next whoriest looking whore in the whorebar and repeat until you go home with some walrus.

[x] virginity lost

that's a man who has standards

[dranger7070]

Standards?

[kiwiMark]

why don't you hang out in irc and show us pics of your shrekbeasts any more dranger MISS YOU.

[dranger7070]

Advice From Mooj - YouTube

[dranger7070]

Because IRC doesn't work on the internet I use for some reason.

SHIT STAIN BALLS!

[Chelle]

www.thundercity.net

dranger.

[OngBonga]

omfg shotty and chelle. Can we get courtie on this too or is this asking too much?

I mean, I know I have nothing going for me at the moment being all bat-shit crazy inside,

Seriously, some men like the bat shit crazy thing. Don't mean to get internet weird on you, but you have quite a fucking lot going for you.

Even mst of the bikers that I hang out with act like they're intimidated by my tits.

Who the fuck is intimidated by tits?

[Chelle]

courtie is off limits in my book, anyone in a relationship or more, off limits. oh and anyone under 18 or over 35, everyone else is fair game.

[dranger7070]

Do not want old pussy. Older than 23 is off limits.

[OngBonga]

No-one's off limits in my mind. Except men.
Obv people in relationships are off limits IRL.

Also, I can extend to past 40 if she's hot enough. Just look at Kylie Minogue. Holy fuck.

[OngBonga]

Do not want old pussy. Older than 23 is off limits.

You're missing out. Older women are dirtier. Much dirtier.

[dranger7070]

Exaggerating.

[Shotglass]

You're missing out. Older women are dirtier. Much dirtier.

we know what we want and we're not afraid to take it

[Chelle]

...I'm 25, know what I want, and take it. Am not old. FOREVER YOUNG IMO.

[OngBonga]

I'm still in my 20's, even though I was born in '79.

[Shotglass]

29...

[OngBonga]

One thing I've never understood about women... what's so good about cats? All they do is leech off you, and then when they've been fed they fuck off for an eight hour walk around the neighbourhood, before coming back to where they have milk, food and a warm bed. And if you don't feed them at exactly the same time every day, they piss on your bed.

Cats belong outside. I'd rather have a monkey than a cat.

[kiwiMark]

I fucking love cats.

Also are you implying you wouldn't want a fucking monkey!?

[MadMojoMonkey]

WHY?! WHY WOULD YOU GIVE THIS INFO AWAY?!

That info was outed in the late '70s

Cats belong outside. I'd rather have a monkey than a cat.

I'll be right over.

[bikes]

Fuck making connections.

Go to bar, preferably one with a dance floor. AVOID THE FUCKING DANCE FLOOR UNTIL AFTER 1am, VERY IMPORTANT!!!!

Go to the bar, order many many different kinds of beers and shots.

After you are good and fucked up, go to dance floor and look for the whoriest looking whore in the whorebar and just put your P on her A and idk, do something that people call dancing these days.

If after 5 minutes or so of doing this she doesn't ask you to go to her place, move to the next whoriest looking whore in the whorebar and repeat until you go home with some walrus.

[x] virginity lost

[11:56am] [d0zer] I lul'd
[11:56am] [d0zer] o dat dranger
[11:56am] [d0zer] got it all figured out
[11:56am] [d0zer] truly an inspiration

[bikes]

We all can't have dranger's standards of shrekbeasting and whale harpooning.

And then sometimes you set him up for an alley oop with a few of your hot friends and he misses the dunk.

[OngBonga]

I fucking love cats.

Also are you implying you wouldn't want a fucking monkey!?

I want a moneky. Cats are rubbish.

[WillburForce]

I recon I could find something attractive enough in most women (aged 18-60ish) after a few beers, that if I was single I would fuck them.

[bikes]

how does that age range of 18-60 and attractive work?????????????

[OngBonga]

I retract my statement about cats being rubbish.

I'll rephrase... cats are rubbish pets.

I like cats, I think they're cool animals and all, it's just that they belong outside, they belong with nature, not in my house.

[WillburForce]

QUOTE=bikes;2103456]how does that age range of 18-60 and attractive work?????????????[/QUOTE]

I don't find women un-attractive because they're older...

I'd actually find it wierd having sex with say a 18yo. I'm 34...18-21 just look so young to me

Also much better with an older women. Fact.

[bikes]

jesus this thread has reminded me how awesome it is to be 23

[NightGizmo]

To OP: you're at college, it's the easiest time of your life to meet new people. Just ignore your fear and try going up to a woman and striking up a conversation. Don't use any cheesy lines, just smile, say hi, and introduce yourself.

If you're too nervous or shy, then work up to it. Like, if you're walking to class and you see a cute girl walking past you, make eye contact and smile. Get used to making eye contact and smiling, you'll be amazed at the responses -- girls will often come over to start the conversation if you smile at them.

Bottom line -- the only way to get more comfortable talking to girls is to get out there and do it. The more practice you have, the more comfortable you will feel. And the more comfortable you feel, the better things will go. And honestly, it's fun -- focus on the fun of meeting new people and try to ignore whatever fear is holding you back.