FBI seizes domains of pokerstars, full tilt, ub.. (UPDATE: FTP MONIES!!!!!11)

[BennyLaRue]

omg remember pacific poker?!

Ohyesohmigod. Made a jillion dollars there.

And Paradise.

[Donachello]

Kiwi!

Benny is crushing you in rep. Step ya game up!

[StarGrinder]

Anyone who chooses Tom Selleck for his avatar is quite deserving of a high rep, obv.

[BennyLaRue]

Anyone who chooses Tom Selleck for his avatar is quite deserving of a high rep, obv.

Blatant rep whoring, imo, but I caved anyway and +repped.

I'm a sucker for ppl who respect the stache.

[StarGrinder]

Blatant rep whoring, imo, but I caved anyway and +repped.

I'm a sucker for ppl who respect the stache.

Hey, I watched Mr. Baseball 3 times on Netflix last week. Movie is meh but Selleck is the man.

"Jack Elliott here bringing you the best in major league thrills for the fellas... and free mustache rides for the ladies."

[Galapogos]

Kiwi!

Benny is crushing you in rep. Step ya game up!

I'm responsible for his fourth rep square. True story.

[kiwiMark]

I'm responsible for his fourth rep square. True story.

Get him!

[bikes]

please bother to read current events before posting useless dribble

[Zorkion]

please bother to read current events before posting useless dribble

ive been trying to keep up on recent events, but it always seems to come back to the same question, that being: why is ftp having so much trouble paying back its players, when similarly large online poker site Pokerstars did not?

I recall seeing an article lately about ftp supposedly trying to 'raise funds' to pay back players, but I'm left with a lack of faith in the credibility of that information.


apologies for perhaps doing little more than just complaining about the state of things, i guess its not cool to do that here :P

[Keith]

because stars had players funds seperated into dedicated accounts so that they were protected, Full tilt just mixed up players funds with their own funds so they could not be identified as players assets and not company funds so that they were frozen as company funds. This meant stars could pay out and Full tilt are deep in the doodoo hoping that the rest of the world will continue playing and gemneratoing rake so that they can generate the funds to pay the american players .
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[boost]

because stars had players funds seperated into dedicated accounts so that they were protected, Full tilt just mixed up players funds with their own funds so they could not be identified as players assets and not company funds so that they were frozen as company funds. This meant stars could pay out and Full tilt are deep in the doodoo hoping that the rest of the world will continue playing and gemneratoing rake so that they can generate the funds to pay the american players .
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well, the hope is that they were unable to get the funds unfrozen because they did not segregate... but more than likely, frozen accounts unfrozen or not, they don't have the money to pay all the US players without crippling their operation.

[BennyLaRue]

ive been trying to keep up on recent events, but it always seems to come back to the same question, that being: why is ftp having so much trouble paying back its players, when similarly large online poker site Pokerstars did not?

I assure you it has nothing to do with "manning up".

I encourage you not to use that phrase in this context or any.

[philly and the phanatics]

dude we should so have an FTR award show...The Floppies?

[kiwiMark]

dude we should so have an FTR award show...The Floppies?

bigred gets enough of those at home

[philly and the phanatics]

winner gets one of these shirts

[Roid_Rage]

winner gets one of these shirts

Still waiting on my shirt.

[fjuanl]

Online Poker Likely to be Legalized in US by Year’s End | Gambling911.com

bold title there

[celtic123]

Online Poker Likely to be Legalized in US by Year’s End | Gambling911.com

bold title there

......There are at least two companies unlikely to obtain a license in the States: PokerStars and Full Tilt Poker. The Las Vegas Sun noted that it is unlikely that any state’s statutes would allow licensing of a company that is under indictment or found liable for illegal activity......

[celtic123]

Full Tilt "starts crediting affiliates" | eGaming Review

[BooG690]

Gambling911 != good source of poker news

[boost]

I bet stars manages to get out of this on top. They are surely figuring out a way to not get blacklisted by the US regulation.

[therealdwarfman]

And after everything, I'm the one who can legally play poker and you all can't. Karma's a bitch ain't it.

[Ash256]

And after everything, I'm the one who can legally play poker and you all can't. Karma's a bitch ain't it.

Losing your livelihood > having the personality flaws that led to this post

[bikes]

And after everything, I'm the one who can legally play poker and you all can't. Karma's a bitch ain't it.

how poetic that you can play but you still suck at both poker and life

[Galapogos]

And after everything, I'm the one who can legally play poker and you all can't. Karma's a bitch ain't it.

You still can't ride the big kid rides though.

[ensign_lee]

And after everything, I'm the one who can legally play poker and you all can't. Karma's a bitch ain't it.

lol wow. just...wow.

I always thought that people judged you a little unfairly, but after that post? You really are everything that they said...and then some.

I concur with the people above saying that losing one's livelihood is a preferable consequence to having your personality flaws.

[therealdwarfman2]

lol wow. just...wow.

I always thought that people judged you a little unfairly, but after that post? You really are everything that they said...and then some.

I concur with the people above saying that losing one's livelihood is a preferable consequence to having your personality flaws.

Then clearly you are a person who is unfortunately grouped with a community that has unfairly judged me.

As a result of being unfairly judged, I take great delight in making sweeping statements once in a while with the purpose of riling and annoying the community, the majority of whom don't have a clue who I really am and judge me to be someone with personality flaws - I kill them and enjoy myself by simply playing up to that misconception.

If you're in the minority who sees me as someone without these crazy personality flaws, then fair enough.

[givememyleg]

don't mess with dwarfman, he'll pretend to sue you

[therealdwarfman2]

don't mess with dwarfman, he'll pretend to sue you

1. I'm not American, so I wasn't trying to sue FlopTurnRiver.
2. I wasn't pretending when I said I was seeking legal advice.

[therealdwarfman2]

And, to keep the thread on track, I genuinely have absolutely no sympathy for those who have lost their livelihoods as a result of the ban. You knew poker was illegal in the USA for many years, you knew you were making a living in an unstable industry, and you had about 5 years to make contingency plans for when this would happen. If you've "lost your livelihood" because of the ban, you're frankly terrible at life.

[fjuanl]

And, to keep the thread on track, I genuinely have absolutely no sympathy for those who have lost their livelihoods as a result of the ban. You knew poker was illegal in the USA for many years, you knew you were making a living in an unstable industry, and you had about 5 years to make contingency plans for when this would happen. If you've "lost your livelihood" because of the ban, you're frankly terrible at life.

uh, no

[therealdwarfman2]

uh, no

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unlawful_Internet_Gambling_Enforcement_Act_of_2006

The one thing I've found incredible about American online poker players over the last few years is their almost delusional denial of the clearly stated law.

[fjuanl]

UIGEA didn't make online poker illegal

[therealdwarfman3]

UIGEA didn't make online poker illegal

It didn't, but it made the supply of online poker to Americans illegal. And if a professional American online poker player still thought he was in an industry that didn't have a chance of blowing up completely with no notice at all, then said poker player is a bloody idiot.

No sympathy to those who lost their livelihoods, it is entirely their own fault that they didn't plan for this to happen.

[LkySlevinsNo1Fan]

It didn't, but it made the supply of online poker to Americans illegal. And if a professional American online poker player still thought he was in an industry that didn't have a chance of blowing up completely with no notice at all, then said poker player is a bloody idiot.

No sympathy to those who lost their livelihoods, it is entirely their own fault that they didn't plan for this to happen.

no it didn't, it 'prohibits gambling businesses from knowingly accepting payments in connection with the participation of another person in a bet or wager that involves the use of the Internet and that is unlawful under any federal or state law'

[therealdwarfman5]

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[kiwiMark]

let's be best friends dwarfman. bigred judges me unfairly all the time and sometimes I have to tell mr pillow about it before I can get to sleep at night

[bikes]

let's be best friends dwarfman. bigred judges me unfairly all the time and sometimes I have to tell mr pillow about it before I can get to sleep at night

if only people knew what my stuffed bear sir rupert has heard!

[Shotglass]

^^ Ya know, that sort of thing will make you go blind

[a500lbgorilla]

Guys, the facts don't matter. You either agree with dwarfman or you're delusional.

[kevster]

This thread just got epic.

Finally.

[Fnord]

Guys, the facts don't matter. You either agree with dwarfman or you're delusional.

I don't think it's an either kind of thing.

Folks who went all-in on online poker and didn't build something else on the side (assuming they could) or make a big pile of money certainly misplayed their hand. But good people make poor decisions all the time, otherwise poker wouldn't have been sooo darn good for as long as it was and probably will be once again.

Lots of "successful" people took the sucker end of a bet for a lot of money and got lucky. My current employer for starters....

[BennyLaRue]

Speaking of past posters, sometimes (ok, just once...now) I wonder if Sir Pawnalot is still alive. I imagine not. He likely met his bloody end when a synapse misfired and he was left convinced he could wrestle a train or something.

[Shotglass]

...he was left convinced he could wrestle a train or something.

That woulda made an interesting picture.

[wufwugy]

Speaking of past posters, sometimes (ok, just once...now) I wonder if Sir Pawnalot is still alive. I imagine not. He likely met his bloody end when a synapse misfired and he was left convinced he could wrestle a train or something.

lolllllllllllllllll

[Zorkion]

new update, though its not a good one.

Exclusive: Alderney suspends Full Tilt's operating licence | eGaming Review

[BooG690]

new update, though its not a good one.

Exclusive: Alderney suspends Full Tilt's{spam link}operating licence | eGaming Review

[kiwiMark]

we need a thread to get to the bottom of why this is being discussed in so many separate places around the forum imo

[BennyLaRue]

Hey, that's not manning up at all!

[surviva316]

Hey, that's not manning up at all!

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

[Zorkion]

>.>

[Zorkion]

also, whats with the {spam link} schnitzel there? am i missing something here?

[baudib]

I didn't want to stiff anyone before, but since it now looks fairly inevitable that U.S. players will get paid and perhaps soon, I'll offer up FT money again at .80/1.

[ChezJ]

hey dwarfman, remember when i staked you back in 2005 and you lost a shitload of my money then insisted that i somehow owed you money afterwards? now it can be told... what a fucking douchebag.

ChezJ

[kmind]

I love how dwarfman would seriously get the shit kicked out of him by literally every single poster here (girls included) in real life yet hides behind a computer to talk shit and steal shit.

[BooG690]

Dwarfman containment thread please.

[bikes]

far too lazy for that.

[PlayToWin]

Bump - Since I don't see a point in playing at Poker Nordica after black friday, I decided to try a withdrawal of my meager roll. I had $2 more than the minimum withdrawal amount. Odds on it going through?
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Thank you for playing at PokerNordica.com.

Your Click2Pay withdrawal request of $52.00 has been received and will be processed within 72 hours.

[lolzzz_321]

I think the min Click2Pay w/d is like $1,500 for US folks

[PlayToWin]

I think the min Click2Pay w/d is like $1,500 for US folks

Not according to this, unless you are saying that they don't yet realize that I'm a US player.

[philly and the phanatics]

sick bump, getting me stoked for news for no reason, you should be ashamed p2w

[boost]

Honest truth: no one cares about your $52 bankroll.

[PlayToWin]

Honest truth: no one cares about your $52 bankroll.

Oh, snap.

OK, no more bumps.

[BennyLaRue]

Honest truth: no one cares about your $52 bankroll.

Just on the merit of her being a chick, I'd bet there are a few posters who would care deeply on the very (very) small chance that doing so could eventually mean they could touch a real human boobie.

[philly and the phanatics]

play2win is a chick?...in that case nevermind...tell us more about your bankroll please

[PlayToWin]

play2win is a chick?...in that case nevermind...tell us more about your bankroll please

lol, BR is tiny like my dick. OTOH, my avatar is a chick i fucked and that i took lots of pictures of. Carry on gentlemen. Sorry to get everyone hyped up.

[Miffed22001]

lol, BR is tiny like my dick. OTOH, my avatar is a chick i fucked and that i took lots of pictures of. Carry on gentlemen. Sorry to get everyone hyped up.

moar pics or GTFO

[PlayToWin]

moar pics or GTFO

I'd love to but that wouldn't be very classy. Goddamnit, I can't believe i said the f-word in a poker forum. Especially "this" poker forum.

[lolzzz_321]

I believe the min check or bankwire C2P will send you is $1,500.

[drmcboy]

best of luck bro, we're all pulling for you. The good news is I think they sell class at wal mart for 39.99.

[BennyLaRue]

They might sell class at Target, but not Wal-Mart.

[BankItDrew]

Bump fails hard.

[supa]

Fuck

[donkbee]

wat's happening here

[BennyLaRue]

P2W isn't a girl? Explain the tampon then.