Family calls shooting of car thief ‘senseless’

[d0zer]

flames need fanning

[daviddem]

flames need fanning

... responsible law abiding citizens exercising their fundamental right to bear arms and protect themselves

[seven-deuce]

... responsible law abiding citizens exercising their fundamental right to bear arms and protect themselves

Logic win.

[spoonitnow]

flames need fanning

Leaving a loaded gun where a toddler can reach it is pretty fucking dumb.

[daviddem]

Leaving a loaded gun where a toddler can reach it is pretty fucking dumb.

but... but... how come a fucking dumb could get his hands on a gun???

oh wait, I know, it's his fundamental constitutional right, and there is no need of a justification for him to exercise it.

[spoonitnow]

but... but... how come a fucking dumb could get his hands on a gun???

oh wait, I know, it's his fundamental constitutional right, and there is no need of a justification for him to exercise it.

This is absolutely correct. Unfortunately the world isn't perfect, so it's a necessary evil in our value system for this kind of thing to happen from time to time (the same with school shootings). The reason for this is that both voting and owning a gun are considered rights that our country were founded on.

[daviddem]

This is absolutely correct. Unfortunately the world isn't perfect, so it's a necessary evil in our value system for this kind of thing to happen from time to time (the same with school shootings). The reason for this is that both voting and owning a gun are considered rights that our country were founded on.

Pretty sure that whoever wrote that 2nd amendment never meant it that way, and never meant to cause so much harm. If he was still around he'd probably be quick to amend or clarify his amendment to help you guys stop killing each other.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

As for some of the recent supreme court rulings, they couldn't be further from the original intention. Probably NRA puppets just like the House and Senate.

and school shooting = useless evil, wtf

[spoonitnow]

Pretty sure that whoever wrote that 2nd amendment never meant it that way, and never meant to cause so much harm. If he was still around he'd probably be quick to amend or clarify his amendment to help you guys stop killing each other.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_...rly_commentary

school shooting = useless evil, wtf

The second amendment does not cause harm. To believe so is a misunderstanding of what cause is.

As an aside, compared to the number of other ridiculous things that people die from, not that many people are killed by guns each year in the United States.

[Lukie]

but... but... how come a fucking dumb could get his hands on a gun???

oh wait, I know, it's his fundamental constitutional right, and there is no need of a justification for him to exercise it.

That guy was a police officer so that is plenty good reason for him to have a gun. Exceptionally bad judgement there. Alcohol and guns don't mix, and kids and guns don't mix. Obviously there are a lot of similar examples that don't involve LEO so you won't get any argument from me that idiots and firearms is a bad combination as well and altogether too common.

I have said this before but if you ever go to a gun shop or a shooting range you can expect to regularly get muzzle swept. Muzzle swept is just a fancy way of saying the gun gets accidentally pointed at you at some point, but it's a fundamental safety violation that happens wayyyyyy too often.