I approve of that "Machiavellian shrewdness". The tax thing is now wonderful for Trump. It wasn't before, now it is.
03-17-2017 02:49 PM
#6076
| |
|
I approve of that "Machiavellian shrewdness". The tax thing is now wonderful for Trump. It wasn't before, now it is. |
03-17-2017 02:50 PM
#6077
| |
|
Maddow, MSNBC, standard shitlibbery BTFO themselves. |
03-17-2017 02:56 PM
#6078
| |
I doubt it. Showing that he made a good sum of money and paid taxes one year out of the last twelve begs the question of why he isn't sharing the other years. | |
03-17-2017 03:12 PM
#6079
| |
|
For some people. Most are much more detached and see only the surface. The main message they receive is that Trump's taxes are a supposed enormous deal and then when released he paid loads of taxes and there was nothing bad. |
03-17-2017 03:26 PM
#6080
| |
You're missing my point. According to the logic people use when Trump does something dumb, Trump's enemies at NBC aren't worried about looking stupid themselves, their goal was to get people talking about Trump's taxes in general. | |
03-17-2017 03:33 PM
#6081
| |
|
|
03-17-2017 03:36 PM
#6082
| |
Still talking about Trump's taxes? | |
03-17-2017 03:40 PM
#6083
| |
|
Above I'm on record saying the more we talk about Trump's taxes now the better for Trump. The release turned the tables. I'm happy that MSNBC tried to up it's game from tic-tac-toe-with-just-one-box-and-Trump-goes-first, but 3d chess is just too big a jump for them. |
03-17-2017 03:53 PM
#6084
| |
Where's the rest of his tax returns for the other years? When do we find out where all his business conflicts of interests lay? What is he hiding? | |
03-17-2017 04:05 PM
#6085
| |
|
All but those who hate Trump no matter what view that as beating a dead horse after the Maddow fiasco. We were told for many months that he was hiding something, we were made to anticipate anything at all that could lead to uncovering the secret, we then got exactly that, and it made Trump look great. We (meaning, all people who don't hate Trump no matter what) now no longer care, we think MSNBC was possibly lying to us for a long time (or just being terrible journos), and we're tired of the issue. The more it's in the news, the more shitlibs btfo themselves. |
03-17-2017 04:17 PM
#6086
| |
If that's true then the more it was talked about that 'last night in Sweden' never happened, the more Trump btfo himself. | |
03-17-2017 04:32 PM
#6087
| |
|
What do people think about now when they think of "last night in Sweden"? They think about all the horrible shit that's going on in Sweden. That statement is an example of pre-suasion, of an anchor with predictive power. It got eyes on Sweden in a way that reporting actual facts on Sweden does not, and then later it was "confirmed" to many people the truth about Sweden the next time something bad happened. |
03-17-2017 05:08 PM
#6088
| |
Ok, let's say the riots were viewed differently because he said that. | |
03-17-2017 05:24 PM
#6089
| |
|
I agree with that, as long as there's credibility in the claim and it's during the "pre-suasion window". If, for example, tomorrow a new tax story broke with some nasty shit revealed in his taxes, it would probably more powerfully make Trump look bad than if it just appeared on its own. |
03-17-2017 05:31 PM
#6090
| |
|
Covered interesting theory that is (afaict) derived from the supply and demand model: the efficiency wage. A derivative element of the theory is that reductions in employment increases efficiency of firms. I certainly remember seeing this discussed quite a lot in the media during 09. There was a lot of "people are working harder so they don't get fired" type stuff. |
03-17-2017 05:37 PM
#6091
| |
There's news, fake news, and clever propaganda. | |
03-17-2017 07:40 PM
#6092
| |
| |
03-17-2017 07:45 PM
#6093
| |
03-17-2017 07:49 PM
#6094
| |
| |
03-17-2017 07:56 PM
#6095
| |
You've clearly been brainwashed by the facts. | |
03-17-2017 08:11 PM
#6096
| |
|
http://www.npr.org/sections/health-s...loyed-isolated |
03-17-2017 08:12 PM
#6097
| |
| |
03-17-2017 08:33 PM
#6098
| |
|
I never said I didn't believe you. What I don't believe, is most people who say they have autism. |
03-17-2017 09:00 PM
#6099
| |
03-17-2017 09:51 PM
#6100
| |
| |
03-17-2017 10:10 PM
#6101
| |
I had deliberately avoided using the word "slavery" to describe a system in which people are bullied into a life of work, because I recognise that the word is too strong to accurately describe the system, and it would be an insult to those who have suffered actual slavery. | |
| |
03-17-2017 10:20 PM
#6102
| |
|
Given that a legal authority granting a minimum provision is one of the key features of the slave plantation, it's a compelling point to make. |
03-17-2017 10:35 PM
#6103
| |
| |
03-17-2017 11:12 PM
#6104
| |
| |
| |
03-17-2017 11:21 PM
#6105
| |
| |
03-17-2017 11:29 PM
#6106
| |
| |
03-18-2017 12:56 AM
#6107
| |
| |
03-18-2017 06:04 AM
#6108
| |
| |
03-18-2017 08:02 AM
#6109
| |
|
That's the only reason the Democratic party exists. |
03-18-2017 11:05 AM
#6110
| |
|
Indeed. The urban plantation hypothesis* is an atypical situation in which the promises are kept. We've seen for several decades this symbiotic relationship play out in some parts of the country. The promise is more handouts in exchange for the vote, and both happen. |
Last edited by wufwugy; 03-18-2017 at 11:11 AM. | |
03-18-2017 11:11 AM
#6111
| |
|
Some say that without the urban plantation deal, the Democrats could only win a handful of districts and states. |
03-18-2017 11:39 AM
#6112
| |
| |
03-18-2017 11:58 AM
#6113
| |
|
Yeah I wonder what his source is. My guess is there's probably little difference, but maybe some. |
03-18-2017 12:46 PM
#6114
| |
It's still a million miles away from slavery. I mean, is the voter under contract and obliged to vote for the party giving him money? Or does he just make the vote because he knows it is the best chance of him continuing his lifestyle? He is not compelled by anyone to vote a particular way, he is only compelled by his own ideology. | |
| |
03-18-2017 12:51 PM
#6115
| |
fwiw, I've used the word "slavery" in my arguments against work in the past, but I knew I was misusing the word, and I agree with those who told me that I was insulting those who have suffered slavery. That is why I have tried very hard to stop using that word in that context. If I am compelled to get a job, then so long as I can go home, and so long as I am paid a "fair" wage (meaning a competetive wage relative to the job), I am not a slave. | |
| |
03-18-2017 02:51 PM
#6116
| |
|
I sympathize with your position. The use of "slavery" in the urban plantation context takes great literary liberties. It's calling being "brainwashed" being "enslaved" and pointing out parallels with the plantation. |
03-18-2017 03:24 PM
#6117
| |
"brainwashed" is another misused word. | |
| |
03-18-2017 03:57 PM
#6118
| |
|
There are some relationships in politics I don't know how to describe except by brainwashing. |
03-18-2017 04:01 PM
#6119
| |
Yeah I mean fair enough if the caveat is not "literally", but "for lack of a better word". | |
| |
03-18-2017 04:10 PM
#6120
| |
| |
03-18-2017 04:20 PM
#6121
| |
I'm a slave to weed. | |
| |
03-18-2017 04:27 PM
#6122
| |
| |
03-20-2017 09:00 AM
#6123
| |
|
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/...alk-about.html |
03-20-2017 11:05 AM
#6124
| |
|
|
03-20-2017 11:59 AM
#6125
| |
|
|
03-20-2017 01:31 PM
#6126
| |
|
What even is the evidence of Russia hacking? That Ukranian software was used? Big LOL |
03-20-2017 02:31 PM
#6127
| |
| |
03-20-2017 02:31 PM
#6128
| |
|
I believe that Russia did the hacking. multiple intelligence agencies agree wholeheartedly on that, and have stated so publicly many times, not the least of which was the January report from the DNI |
03-20-2017 02:33 PM
#6129
| |
| |
03-20-2017 02:45 PM
#6130
| |
| |
03-20-2017 03:29 PM
#6131
| |
|
It's not so much the lying and cheating that bothers me, there's plenty of that on both sides. But it's the fact that this Trump/Russia thing seems to become more prominent as time goes on, despite there being less and less potential for any evidence. |
03-20-2017 03:33 PM
#6132
| |
03-20-2017 03:40 PM
#6133
| |
|
And Comey hates the Patriots |
03-20-2017 03:43 PM
#6134
| |
| |
03-20-2017 03:52 PM
#6135
| |
03-21-2017 08:34 AM
#6136
| |
Security theater at its finest | |
| |
03-21-2017 09:08 AM
#6137
| |
|
I have no problem with this. |
03-21-2017 10:38 AM
#6138
| |
|
Can someone tell me how Trump's claim of being wire-tapped by the Obama administration has been "debunked", "torpedoed", "discredited", "denied", "unfounded", and "false" but the claim that Trump colluded with Russia is none of those things? |
03-21-2017 10:54 AM
#6139
| |
They haven't been debunked, and the Russian claims are still bollocks. Only, that's not what MSM is telling people. | |
| |
03-21-2017 10:56 AM
#6140
| |
We're at the stage now where whatever you want to believe is real news, and whatever you don't want to believe is fake news. | |
| |
03-21-2017 10:59 AM
#6141
| |
| |
03-21-2017 11:01 AM
#6142
| |
|
Says the idiot moaning about things on the internet? You're just massively missing the point. Unfortunately this is a recurring theme with you so I can only conclude that you're stupid. So will resort to just calling you stupid rather than trying to say anything of worth. |
03-21-2017 11:21 AM
#6143
| |
It will result in people thinking for themselves. It has to. Even the masses are starting to wake up to the fact that the MSM cannot be trusted to give impartial and honest information. More and more people are reading news and asking themselves "is this fake or not" and doing the required research to determine its authenticity. The more this "fake news" tactic from the MSM plays out, the less people will trust ANY news source. | |
| |
03-21-2017 11:23 AM
#6144
| |
| |
03-21-2017 11:25 AM
#6145
| |
| |
03-21-2017 11:29 AM
#6146
| |
|
I suspect that the reason they want large electronics in checked luggage, is to give security personnel more time to search/evaluate them for threats. |
Last edited by BananaStand; 03-21-2017 at 11:32 AM. | |
03-21-2017 11:32 AM
#6147
| |
| |
03-21-2017 11:35 AM
#6148
| |
| |
| |
03-21-2017 11:37 AM
#6149
| |
|
You seem to be ignoring the underlying fact here, that there is intelligence suggesting that the bad guys will use large electronics, not small ones, to do something bad. |
Last edited by BananaStand; 03-21-2017 at 11:39 AM. | |
03-21-2017 11:46 AM
#6150
| |
| |
| |