**** Elections thread *****

[Poopadoop]

No it isn't.

Oh well, you got me there professor.

False. The only value that matters is who has a higher count of individual votes. You use % data for common-size analysis. But that's really irrelevant if two entities are of vastly different sizes. Again...would you rather have 1% of a dollar, or 1% of a truckload of dollars?

In an election I'd rather have 60% of 10 votes than 40% of 100 votes, since even though 6 is less than 40, I'd prefer to win the election than have more votes in a larger district and lose.

No, it's vote-count that matters.

Like arguing with a six-year-old again.

And it's alot more compelling for some ass-hole pundit to say "60% of people believe X" rather than "600 random douchebags think X"

Oh is that why they report % rather than raw numbers. Thanks, didn't know that.

Dude...Ted Kennedy was a senator FOREVER. He killed a person.....literally....and STILL WON. What more evidence do you need to be convinced that Democratic views are entrenched in Massachusetts?

Why do you assume Ted Kennedy's case represents the entire state of MA? Why assume the entrenchment was with Democrats rather than with TFK in particular?

Oh I know, 'cause it suits your argument.

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sorry I dont have the time for the rest of your garbage arguments.

Either provide some data or be ignored. Up to you.

[BananaStand]

Why do you assume Ted Kennedy's case represents the entire state of MA? Why assume the entrenchment was with Democrats rather than with TFK in particular?

Because the terms "Edward Kennedy" and "Bleeding heart Liberal" are synonymous.

Either provide some data or be ignored. Up to you.

1,000+ democratic seats turned Republican since Barry got elected.

[Poopadoop]

1,000+ democratic seats turned Republican since Barry got elected.

Did that all happen in the first year? I'm guessing not. Surely you can see it's not appropriate to compare eight years to one year?

[BananaStand]

Did that all happen in the first year? I'm guessing not. Surely you can see it's not appropriate to compare eight years to one year?

I'm simply exercising my right to move the goalpost however, it suits me. If you want to go back to an analysis where you've arbitrarily enforced cherry-picked parameters like "congress only" and "just one year", then go ahead. But I thought you made it very clear you weren't doing that anymore. Were you lying? Or have you just moved the goalpost again.

If you'd like to continue, the new topic is the democrat loss of over 1000 congressional seats, senate seats, governorships, and state legislature positions in the last decade.

Discuss.

[Poopadoop]

I'm simply exercising my right to move the goalpost however, it suits me. If you want to go back to an analysis where you've arbitrarily enforced cherry-picked parameters like "congress only" and "just one year", then go ahead. But I thought you made it very clear you weren't doing that anymore. Were you lying? Or have you just moved the goalpost again.

If you'd like to continue, the new topic is the democrat loss of over 1000 congressional seats, senate seats, governorships, and state legislature positions in the last decade.

Discuss.

I didn't enforce 'congress only'. Provide me with the senate data as well and I'll do the math for you. What more do you want?

It makes sense to only compare the same period of time across different presidents. Sorry if you can't see the logic in that.

If you'd like to continue, the new topic is the democrat loss of over 1000 congressional seats, senate seats, governorships, and state legislature positions in the last decade.

Discuss.

lol who put you in charge of choosing the topic? Either you provide me with the data for senate s.e.'s from 2016-7, 2008-9 and 2004-5 or admit you already have a pretty good idea it wouldn't change anything.

Then we can start a different topic.

[BananaStand]

lol who put you in charge of choosing the topic? Either you provide me with the data for senate s.e.'s from 2016-7, 2008-9 and 2004-5 or admit you already have a pretty good idea it wouldn't change anything.

Just one example moves your 5.5% average to 12.4%. Are you still saying it doesn't change anything? GTFO

[Poopadoop]

Just one example moves your 5.5% average to 12.4%. Are you still saying it doesn't change anything? GTFO

Every data point changes the mean. That's why you have a mean and don't just pick one data point that is extreme and consider it representative.

So, as i keep saying, give me ALL the senate S.E. data for the years in question and let's see how it falls out.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Like arguing with a six-year-old again.

You're participating voluntarily in these continued dialogues, and must have figured out months ago that it is a fruitless task.

Please take your own advice and refrain from humoring this puerile behavior.
With any luck, if we simply refuse to stoop to his level, he'll either leave or learn to follow the example of civilized conversation.

Our ability to learn and grow by understanding each other's nuanced positions has been gone from our conversations since nanners started posting. I want that vibe back, but I don't know how to make it happen unless people simply refuse to engage in a conversation without mutual respect.

I don't personally believe that nanners has any respect for me or my thoughts, so I refrain from engaging with him.
IDK if this is the best way to deal with it, but I'm frankly fed up with the lack of decency in the tone, and I can either leave FTR or ignore the jerks. Ignoring the jerks is part of life, so I'm rolling with that for a while.

FFS, nanners is leading every conversation and is probably the greatest active contributor to FTR is a long time as far as engagement and quantity. If that's what you all what this site to be, then who am I to disagree? I want something else, and I'm sure I can find it elsewhere.
If you also want something else from FTR, then let's make it happen.

[Poopadoop]

If you also want something else from FTR, then let's make it happen.

yes. The thing is it's hard to that when one person is making 50% of the posts.

[BananaStand]

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