**** Elections thread *****

[BananaStand]

I'm not really a history buff. I know a "little" bit. But I do know that most social programs in place today, did not exist in 1932.

Dude, there are ALOT of things we have now that didn't exist in 1932.

In 1932, you had no SNAP, Welfare, EITC, SCHIP, TANF, Meals On Wheels, Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, Pell Grants, GI Bill, Public Housing, and so on and so forth.

So?

Upon getting fired, it didn't take long for you to find yourself out on the street.

Ok, so? I kinda wish it was that way today.

With all these "incentives" to work in place,...... I assume, 1932, was a golden economic boom year for the United States,

How glib can you be? You're equating the existence of social welfare policies with prosperity. Not so.

because it's basically your ideal economy in action.

No my friend. In my 'ideal economy' 9,000 banks would not have failed just three years before. Maybe there's more to the equation here hmmm?

So, again, I don't know much about history, but I will look up 1932 and see what the economic conditions, just a quick google search...

Do some more google searching. Did anything significant happen in 1929?

Well, what can I say. This is "odd". I'm sorry, I have to plead ignorance, I assumed with so many of your ideal economic forces in action, and a total lack of a safety net, that 1932, would have been one of the greatest years in the history of the US Economy.

Rather than argue with this, let's just agree that economics is NOT your strong suit. How's that preventing you from getting a job today though?

Lets see, we got 25% unemployment

Do you think that was caused by a lack of social programs?

Bread lines and soup lines were the only means of obtaining food if you had no income in the day, and these had massive lines around the block.

So there actually were social welfare programs to feed the hungry?? And the worst part about it is that the line was long. Boo....friggen.....hoo buddy. Sorry that in 1932 they didn't have EBT cards, sheesh.

It just stuns me, that your ideal economy, actually heralded the worst economic times in US History

See you're just filtering what you want to hear, ignoring the rest, and hopelessly misconstruing 'my ideal economy'.

First of all, the stock market crashed, and NINE THOUSAND BANKS FAILED in 1929. Of course unemployment was high. That's what happens when businesses don't have access to capital. Same thing happened in 2008, just on a smaller scale. We had massive unemployment then too, and by then, welfare was already a thing. So what's your point?

Your entire premise here is that a lack of social safety nets = high unemployment. That's positively absurd. How does giving free rides to people increase employment??

For the record, I know I mentioned somewhere in this thread that I DO support expansions of social welfare programs in times of crisis. Expanding federal unemployment benefits in 2009 is a fine example. If the government fucks things up resulting in high unemployment, then as stewards of the economy, it's the government's job to fix it.

But that's all based on NEED. My whole point with you Jimmy, is that you don't NEED shit.

You just don't like working, and you expect the rest of us to carry your ass.

It's pathetic.