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[BananaStand]

Is this fake news? Or is this REALLY the state of race relations in this country.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...QHf?li=BBnb7Kz

So Lewis goes on national TV and basically says "I think Russia had their thumb on the scale, and so Trump's win is not legitimate." Ok. Nevermind how naive and ignorant that is. He's entitled to free speech. So is Trump. And as far as I can tell, Trump's response amounted to "Hey, focus on your own job"

Now we have the new york times using that exchange to publish a racist diatribe against trump.

These two quotes are especially heinous as they imply that Trump's response deliberately chose to ignore a civil rights movement that happened 50 years before Lewis' interview.

Mr. Trump, through Twitter, is giving the world access in real time to his unvarnished thoughts, which Mr. Neal called “raw, unsophisticated, ignorant and uninformed.”

“He doesn’t care that people think the civil rights movement was important,” Mr. Neal said. “He doesn’t feel the need to perform some sort of belief that it is important.”

“they heard what he said about John Lewis, which was tantamount to spitting in our face,” he said. “What you’re telling black people is that all the things John Lewis directly was involved in that resulted in the legislation that we are fighting to maintain and make permanent, you consider nothing.”

Trump made a 140 character response to a direct attack on his presidency, from a sitting member of congress.

And now the NYT publishes 20 paragraphs about how Trump's real message is to dismiss the significance of the civil rights movement??

Help me understand this

[wufwugy]

Is this fake news? Or is this REALLY the state of race relations in this country.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...QHf?li=BBnb7Kz

So Lewis goes on national TV and basically says "I think Russia had their thumb on the scale, and so Trump's win is not legitimate." Ok. Nevermind how naive and ignorant that is. He's entitled to free speech. So is Trump. And as far as I can tell, Trump's response amounted to "Hey, focus on your own job"

Now we have the new york times using that exchange to publish a racist diatribe against trump.

These two quotes are especially heinous as they imply that Trump's response deliberately chose to ignore a civil rights movement that happened 50 years before Lewis' interview.





Trump made a 140 character response to a direct attack on his presidency, from a sitting member of congress.

And now the NYT publishes 20 paragraphs about how Trump's real message is to dismiss the significance of the civil rights movement??

Help me understand this

For decades, the media in the US has been about social justice. They are Marxist and during the Cold War were largely pro-communist. The culture of the media has not changed since then, only their strategies. The tool that turns a society from healthy to a Marxist Utopia like communism involves class warfare. The media still uses the bourgeoisie vs proletariat classism, but that hasn't stuck in the US character like it did in Russia. The media doesn't want to use the fascist approach to social justice by way of nationalism because American national character is pro-capitalist, so that wouldn't work. The strategy shift unique to the US media is race. This innovation of classism allows them to dissemble American culture piece by piece since American culture is historically associated with white skin color and slavery was associated with black skin color, yet being "white" or "black" was mostly about culture instead of color, except when it came to slavery (if you want more on this, I can explain. It's fascinating stuff).

This neo-classism of race-baiting at every turn is the tool the media has used to further its Marxism. They've successfully framed white people and mainstream culture as bad, and have convinced any who have any type of issue with a white person or with the mainstream culture that it's *truly* because of racism. This galvanizes the person into the non-white camp, while embracing mainstream culture puts them in the white camp (there are many historical examples of this and contemporary as well). The propaganda is so intense today that black conservatives are considered more white than black (it's merely because they take on a "white" role). Another example is how black urban students get harassed and assaulted when trying to succeed in school due to trying to be "white." Anyways, I'm sidetracking here.

This neo-classism tool of race-baiting has been used successfully to usher in a tremendous amount of Marxist ideals to the society. The welfare state having grown from nothing to the vastness it is now is just one example. The version of social justice the Soviets used couldn't topple the US character, neither could the version of social justice the Nazis used. But this version of racism is doing so successfully. Given that the media is mostly made up of social justice proponents, racism is their agenda.

It should be added that race isn't the only thing they use; it's just the most powerful. They create divisions on gender and sexual orientation (and political Islam) too. The gender related stuff is important since it's all about destruction of the family, the main barrier between here and a Marxist Utopia. I won't get into it more unless you want.

[BananaStand]

I won't get into it more unless you want.

You've already gone beyond the call of duty sir. My plea to "help understand this" was mostly rhetorical.

It seems crazy to me to leap from "Hey, make your district better" to "The civil rights movement was a waste of time". I'm not about to counter that by leaping to conclusions about a mainstream conspiracy towards Marxism.

one of the quotes I referenced was from Al Sharpton. That guy really doesn't care about ushering in a Marxist Utopia. He's just advertising. He's part of a cottage industry that conjures up racial outrage and uses it as a business opportunity. Guys like him, Ben Crump, Keith Ellison, and the Johnny Cochrans of the world are exploiting racial injustice to benefit their own careers and/or get rich.

I guess that explains the NY Times here too. The words "Trump" + "racist" = money.

[wufwugy]

You've already gone beyond the call of duty sir. My plea to "help understand this" was mostly rhetorical.

It seems crazy to me to leap from "Hey, make your district better" to "The civil rights movement was a waste of time". I'm not about to counter that by leaping to conclusions about a mainstream conspiracy towards Marxism.

one of the quotes I referenced was from Al Sharpton. That guy really doesn't care about ushering in a Marxist Utopia. He's just advertising. He's part of a cottage industry that conjures up racial outrage and uses it as a business opportunity. Guys like him, Ben Crump, Keith Ellison, and the Johnny Cochrans of the world are exploiting racial injustice to benefit their own careers and/or get rich.

I guess that explains the NY Times here too. The words "Trump" + "racist" = money.

That's definitely true. It isn't like the agenda is explicit at every corner. Sharpton is in it for the money. The push towards Marxism is explicit in some ways but is mostly descriptive from the outside. Most in the media don't know that what they're doing is social justice and some who do think social justice is good.

Also, calling it Marxism is basically understanding them better than they understand themselves. They don't call themselves SJWs, Marxists, or fascists even though they have the same ideology. They don't call themselves those because they are ignorant. Just like fascism was rebranded from being a sibling of communism to diametrically opposed, many today have rebranded history and inadvertently push towards a return to a Marxist Utopia.