**** Elections thread *****

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I don't think there is more racism on the left. Racism is pretty evenly dispersed among most walks of life. Many people think there is more racism on the right and that the left is particularly anti-racist. I think that's hogwash.

Part of why I didn't find your statement clear is that I was referring to once the nomination happens. This puts it in general election territory. The head exploding that would come from the left would come by realizing that their standard narrative that the right is unabashedly racist needs reevaluation.

I said to not accuse me of things for two reasons. (1) I don't like being accused of things. It does not make for constructive discourse. (2) Accusing somebody of things is a great way to construct your own biases. Now that you have explained what you meant, I don't think there is any way I would have interpreted what you said the way you interpreted it if I didn't have the bias that you claimed I did in the first place.

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I said to not accuse me of things for two reasons. (1) I don't like being accused of things. It does not make for constructive discourse. (2) Accusing somebody of things is a great way to construct your own biases.

I still think this is silly. I accused you of either willfully misrepresenting my views or doing so unintentionally due to your bias. Maybe you didn't like the way I did it, and I'm all ears for criticisms on tone (I know this is a department I could stand to grow in), but suggesting accusations (as I feel the term has been broadly defined by you to include what I said) should be off the table completely is nonsensical.

Now that you have explained what you meant, I don't think there is any way I would have interpreted what you said the way you interpreted it if I didn't have the bias that you claimed I did in the first place.

I've reread this several times and I'm still lost.

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I don't think there is more racism on the left. Racism is pretty evenly dispersed among most walks of life. Many people think there is more racism on the right and that the left is particularly anti-racist. I think that's hogwash.

Yeah, I mean maybe the racism on the left tends to manifest itself in more veiled ways and the left's policies, irregardless of actuality, are ostensibly anti-racist, where as the rights at times appear to be the opposite.

Part of why I didn't find your statement clear is that I was referring to once the nomination happens. This puts it in general election territory. The head exploding that would come from the left would come by realizing that their standard narrative that the right is unabashedly racist needs reevaluation.

Yeah, I mean, maybe-- but I think it is far more likely that they just rationalize that the nomination was a desperate hail mary of a political maneuver.

Also, I'd like to point out that the same way that Obama taking the Oval Office wasn't proof that racism in America is a thing of the past, a black nominee in the republican party doesn't prove that the party isn't "the mountain of racism it's accused of being."