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[BananaStand]

I thought I read that it bans American citizens from returning home from those countries during this period.
Clear injustice to suspend "innocent until proven guilty" on American citizens.

I'm certain that colleges and universities are going ballistic over the fact that students and professors who are on legit visas are being denied access to return to their school / work.
I don't know if "injustice" is the right word, but it seems like we have accurately vetted plenty of people from those countries already, and denying them entry to the USA seems overboard.

The bolded does not compute. Last I heard, at least half of the people in limbo have been granted waivers, and by tomorrow, I'll bet there won't be anyone being held at an airport who has a right to be here. This wasn't a surprise order. People have known what's up since November. They travelled anyway, because.....I don't know. Maybe they're spoiled idiots who think that rules don't apply to them. All I see is a bunch of whiners who say "but I'm not a terrorist....this shouldn't happen to me!!"

I mean, since 9/11 we americans have given up some of our convenience and privacy in order to feel safe on an airplane. Most people suck it up. But every once in a while you see that dumb bitch in the security line who doesn't understand why her liquids have to be in 3oz containers. Or how about that lady who got pulled off an Alaska Air flight for her anti-trump rant a week or so ago. "But I'm going home for a funeral, you can't pull me off the plane".

When I look at the protests on TV, all the signs and chants are saying "muslims & refugees welcome". I don't think its accurate to assume that there wouldn't be this outrage if the order allowed people with green cards and visas, but still banned refugees. That's why I say the outrage here is manufactured. It's just people who hate trump looking for an excuse to hate trump.