**** Elections thread *****

[OngBonga]

BTW by track record I meant more staying power and trend. He's blasting asses. Democrats have been pouring everything they have into their narrative and all they got was people thinking they are lying to us. And they poured everything into special elections that they were convinced they would win and all the fake pollsters said they would win and yet they still lost.

Trump always LOOKS like he is a fool and LOOKS like he is losing. Sun Tzu would be very proud.

I do hope this is an accurate assessment. I think you're more optimistic than I am. I mean I'm still unconvinced of his sincerity... there's still a part of me that think he might just be part of an elaborate puppet show. But one way or another, Clinton is definitely deep state, so he can only ever reach as bad as it otherwise could've been.

[wufwugy]

I do hope this is an accurate assessment.

You and me both buddy.

[wufwugy]

I mean I'm still unconvinced of his sincerity...

I have a response to this that is convincing enough for me.

A 70 year old billioinaire chose to work non-stop and have his family name dragged through the mud for the rest of his life (and his kids' lives) instead of living the good life like he had for the previous several decades of his life. And the people saying he's in it for narcissistic reasons are strictly those who have huge vested interest in his failure.

If anything, I think he has greater sincerity than most politicians.

[OngBonga]

I have a response to this that is convincing enough for me.

A 70 year old billioinaire chose to work non-stop and have his family name dragged through the mud for the rest of his life (and his kids' lives) instead of living the good life like he had for the previous several decades of his life. And the people saying he's in it for narcissistic reasons are strictly those who have huge vested interest in his failure.

If anything, I think he has greater sincerity than most politicians.

Yeah this is solid enough for me to have some hope.

I still think he's fucked though. I don't think these people can be defeated. They are invincible. Trump isn't. He can't win, but he can lose. All he can do is win a few battles on his way to losing the war.

[CoccoBill]

A 70 year old billioinaire chose to work non-stop and have his family name dragged through the mud for the rest of his life (and his kids' lives) instead of living the good life like he had for the previous several decades of his life. And the people saying he's in it for narcissistic reasons are strictly those who have huge vested interest in his failure.

I'm definitely not saying that's impossible, but I vaguely remember you talking about and advocating Occam's razor in the past. To me, an outsider, it looks like a 70 year old millionaire born into money and a number of failed enterprises chose to get a boost to his businesses by coming into the spotlight and getting his brand more recognition. It worked out much better than expected due to the build-up of anger and suffering of the working class, and gave him the opportunity to help himself, his family and friends directly through policy and his platform. And the people saying he's in it for narcissistic reasons are strictly those who apply Occam's razor, not the ones believing in intricate after-the-fact mansplaining and 4D chess moves.

[wufwugy]

I'm definitely not saying that's impossible, but I vaguely remember you talking about and advocating Occam's razor in the past. To me, an outsider, it looks like a 70 year old millionaire born into money and a number of failed enterprises chose to get a boost to his businesses by coming into the spotlight and getting his brand more recognition. It worked out much better than expected due to the build-up of anger and suffering of the working class, and gave him the opportunity to help himself, his family and friends directly through policy and his platform. And the people saying he's in it for narcissistic reasons are strictly those who apply Occam's razor, not the ones believing in intricate after-the-fact mansplaining and 4D chess moves.

Do you think this has boosted his private career? I think it has harmed it irreparably.

[CoccoBill]

Do you think this has boosted his private career? I think it has harmed it irreparably.

I think he's made millions just from the use of his hotels and resorts for government affairs. We obviously don't know what, if any, deals for personal gains he's made with businesses or nations. But, his proposed tax cuts will benefit himself quite a bit, his hotel ventures abroad are rumored to be getting favored treatment by the foreign officials due to him sitting in the oval office, Ivanka's brand has been getting a huge boost in sales and been granted trademarks in China, to scratch the surface. I would argue he's probably doing better business-wise and financially than ever.