**** Elections thread *****

[spoonitnow]

I get it, universities handle this stuff terribly. These aren't examples of police being barred from investigating rape though. Like in the hypothetical you created, Nancy didn't charge Greg criminally, so the steps to allow police to get involved in the first place aren't triggered. I do acknowledge that my statement "and nobody thinks they (the police) should be (barred)" is misleading since clearly some accusers and universities think exactly that. There are those with incentives or an agenda to not want cops involved. I should have said "the vast majority of people who will be voting in 2016 do not think that the police should be barred from investigating allegations of rape brought to them regardless of if they happened on campus".

It should be added that it isn't so much that universities are "handling this stuff terribly", like I just said they are, because from the perspective of the university, they are actually making good decisions. The university doesn't want police involved because it would be terrible news for the university and its finances. But it also can't brush the allegations under the rug since the perception among its main consumers (young women) would still do great financial damage to the university. So, the university has great incentive to handle it in-house and in such a way that men are victimized.

The incentive for universities to "do the right thing" for themselves by doing the wrong thing is also created by government subsidies and intervention. I'll explain how this is the case if anybody wants to hear it.

The bold is the point. The idea is that he's suggesting universities should keep their fucking noses out of it, and if the girl wants something done, she can drag her ass to the police, etc etc.

[wufwugy]

The bold is the point. The idea is that he's suggesting universities should keep their fucking noses out of it, and if the girl wants something done, she can drag her ass to the police, etc etc.

i just wanted to be clear that i dont think his position sets him apart from the field. i think most of the candidates believe it and if asked, most of the gop candidates would also say what sanders said. him having said it, though, does deserve credit.

[spoonitnow]

i just wanted to be clear that i dont think his position sets him apart from the field. i think most of the candidates believe it and if asked, most of the gop candidates would also say what sanders said. him having said it, though, does deserve credit.

His position sets him clearly apart from the field compared to other Democrats, but not so much for Republicans. Liberals are what have enabled this shit to happen and supported it. A good example of this is the "yes means yes" policy towards consent that's popping up more and more in the United States.

[wufwugy]

His position sets him clearly apart from the field compared to other Democrats, but not so much for Republicans. Liberals are what have enabled this shit to happen and supported it. A good example of this is the "yes means yes" policy towards consent that's popping up more and more in the United States.

yes i suspect hillary would not answer the way he did unless reeeeeeeeeally pressed.