Did Jesus exist?

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I wouldn't doubt that someone existed that people made up those stories about, but I doubt it was 2K years ago and I doubt it was even a white dude in Jerusalem.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. So at some point in time a man existed and people made up stories about him, the very stories that define him as who he is to us today? Then I would argue that he did not exist. You follow what I'm saying?

edit: or are you saying that someone existed before the "time of Jesus", and the stories about this person were tacked onto a made up figure named Jesus born 2,000 years ago?

Either way, it seems quite important to the Christian faith that he did in fact exist, and that he did exist 2,000 years ago, was prosecuted and crucified for his beliefs, etc etc. If a Christian were to ever conceded that any of these things were not true, they would be denouncing their faith, no?

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I'm not sure what you mean by this. So at some point in time a man existed and people made up stories about him, the very stories that define him as who he is to us today? Then I would argue that he did not exist. You follow what I'm saying?

yet, that's exactly what you asked in the OP

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yet, that's exactly what you asked in the OP

Right, I was just trying to clarify what jym's meant.

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I'm not sure what you mean by this. So at some point in time a man existed and people made up stories about him, the very stories that define him as who he is to us today? Then I would argue that he did not exist. You follow what I'm saying?

edit: or are you saying that someone existed before the "time of Jesus", and the stories about this person were tacked onto a made up figure named Jesus born 2,000 years ago?

I'm saying exactly all of this, a bunch of made up or embellished stories were about some guy, or guys throughout time that has been retold over forever and now has been gripped by the modern religions that follow the bible.

It's kind of like that campfire game where you sit in a circle and the first person makes up a sentence or two and whispers to the person beside them. When it goes around the circle the last person has a completely different story. The bible is the second last person in the circle and now the story is just a huge clusterfuck. Some guy/guys throughout time did something or some things and the stories have been bastardized to what is now known as the bible.