04-27-2020 06:17 PM
#826
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04-27-2020 06:18 PM
#827
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04-27-2020 06:21 PM
#828
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Dunno how they found out, leaks I imagine. | |
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04-27-2020 06:23 PM
#829
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I mean assuming it's unlikely all 23 are irreplaceable AND are all going to get killed in one coordinated terror attack, is there any valid reason for keeping membership of this committee a secret? You'd think the public would be reassured there's that many experts on the case. | |
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04-27-2020 06:27 PM
#830
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There's certainly a public interest in the identities of these people being known, but that does have to be balanced with the state's interest in them being anonymous. It really does depend on their reasons. | |
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04-27-2020 06:42 PM
#831
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It is a bit odd though that some are publicly facing while the rest are kept secret. Is this something other countries are doing as well? | |
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04-27-2020 07:32 PM
#832
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idk but I don't see what value there is in comparing to other countries. Who's to say they're doing it right and not us? Those already in the public domain though, I see no reason to protect their identities. | |
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04-27-2020 08:08 PM
#833
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I guess it would be more defensible if it were common practice in various countires to keep the identities of the experts on these panels secret. It would suggest there's some viable reason for doing it that I just haven't thought of. | |
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04-27-2020 08:29 PM
#834
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Other countries aren't quite as hated as the UK, so we can be forgiven for being more cautious, but your suspicion could be justified. There's acceptable reasons for secrecy, and there's unacceptable reasons. If I were pushed for my opinion, I'd lean towards the govt protecting themselves from scrutiny, but I don't know that and certainly wouldn't bet on it. | |
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04-29-2020 12:22 PM
#835
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One of the members of SAGE (UK advisory panel on CV) speaks to the Guardian. | |
Last edited by Poopadoop; 04-29-2020 at 12:25 PM.
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04-29-2020 12:37 PM
#836
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I've got a mild fever with chills had a headache yesterday before the fever set in; no other symptoms so far. | |
04-29-2020 12:47 PM
#837
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Shit dude, hope you're ok. | |
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04-29-2020 12:55 PM
#838
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Please don't inject disinfectant or set fire to any 5G towers. | |
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04-29-2020 01:01 PM
#839
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04-29-2020 01:19 PM
#840
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Yeah, it's funny, two days before the job I was working got shut down, I got the stomach flu. The fever came on first, and I was pretty worried--I've never been so happy to throw up and spew liquid feces out my butt! | |
04-29-2020 01:27 PM
#841
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That other time might have been it. | |
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04-29-2020 01:39 PM
#842
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04-29-2020 01:44 PM
#843
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Well I'm not a doctor but maybe if you had kept your feces in a jar we could re-introduce them to your body somehow and that would protect you. Like a vaccine, or some kind of, like, medicine. | |
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04-29-2020 01:44 PM
#844
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04-29-2020 01:46 PM
#845
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04-29-2020 01:50 PM
#846
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04-29-2020 01:52 PM
#847
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04-29-2020 01:54 PM
#848
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04-29-2020 02:05 PM
#849
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04-29-2020 02:39 PM
#850
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04-29-2020 03:05 PM
#851
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Bad day for the UK. | |
Last edited by Poopadoop; 04-29-2020 at 03:14 PM.
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04-29-2020 04:33 PM
#852
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Yeah those reported numbers are so far off they should probably just look at excess all-cause deaths over other years. | |
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04-29-2020 04:41 PM
#853
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It's definitely better overall to use excess mortality, but they don't have raw numbers on that site, just graphs. | |
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04-29-2020 04:47 PM
#854
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04-29-2020 05:56 PM
#855
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So, this remesdivere (or w/e) drug that they've been testing on CV patients, and that now Fauci is calling promising? The research group doing the trial changed their measure for "success" after the trial began to something more successful. | |
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04-29-2020 06:02 PM
#856
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The Fauch makes a pretty basic stats error in his interview about remsivere-w/e - referring to the improvement in death rate as having "not yet reached statistical significance" This is a nonsensical thing to say. Data don't "reach" statistical significance, they're either significant or they're not. | |
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04-30-2020 01:58 AM
#857
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Remdesivere press release touting "success" just happened to coincide with publication of a different remeversdir study suggesting it didn't work at all. Coincidence? Methinks not. | |
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04-30-2020 04:42 PM
#858
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BoJo at his gaslighting best today: | |
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04-30-2020 05:18 PM
#859
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Let's be fair, let's measure our lack of success by the per capita death rate. | |
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04-30-2020 05:49 PM
#860
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Should we include the city-states like Andorra and San Marino? Then we're 6th in the world per capita. Otherwise, 4th. | |
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04-30-2020 06:18 PM
#861
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Immunity, food processing plants, pets, and social distancing covered here by Osterholm. | |
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04-30-2020 07:15 PM
#862
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Those shitty little countries are a pain in the arse. | |
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04-30-2020 10:53 PM
#863
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Fever is mostly gone, no new symptoms. | |
05-01-2020 03:05 AM
#864
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Good to hear you're feeling better at least. | |
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05-01-2020 09:19 AM
#865
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Winner. | |
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05-07-2020 08:11 PM
#866
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So meanwhile in the UK, various right wing tabloids are crowing that we're about to open up. The Times is saying 'lockdown till June'. | |
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05-08-2020 03:59 AM
#867
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Look at the logarithmic graph, it's nicer to look at because the curve is converging into a comforting flat line, unlike the scary linear graph that it not curving at all and is practically a 45 degree straight line. | |
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05-08-2020 04:25 AM
#868
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I actually meant Boris will tell us Sunday. I don't even know what day it is anymore. | |
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05-08-2020 05:41 AM
#869
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If I were in charge, I would do everything in my power to ensure the graph is penis shaped. I appreciate that might mean going back in time to get convincing curvature on the tip, but I'll have no qualms spending taxpayer money trying to do it. | |
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05-10-2020 04:55 AM
#870
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05-10-2020 02:02 PM
#871
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Somehow, I don't think he's telling him what a great job he's doing. | |
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05-10-2020 02:11 PM
#872
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This is actually pretty good. | |
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05-10-2020 02:29 PM
#873
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That's me in the spotlight | |
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05-10-2020 05:01 PM
#874
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That picture of Boris being pointed at is so fucking British. The only thing missing is rain. | |
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05-10-2020 05:05 PM
#875
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I reckon as world leaders go, Boris is probably quite hard. I doubt he could beat Putin in a fight, but he'd shit on Trump. Merkel vs Sturgeon would be a great fight, I'd pay to watch that. Hardest is probably some general we've never heard of, or Kim Jong-un who of course is a black belt in every martial art ever. | |
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05-10-2020 05:23 PM
#876
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05-10-2020 05:28 PM
#877
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Can someone explain this plan to me? | |
Last edited by Poopadoop; 05-10-2020 at 05:36 PM.
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05-10-2020 05:30 PM
#878
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Trudeau would kick the shit out of Boris. Trudeau vs. Putin would be a good fight, if only because Putin would fight dirty. | |
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05-10-2020 05:48 PM
#879
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IDK what the R0 and R=1 stuff means. Can you explain that? | |
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05-10-2020 07:01 PM
#880
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Boris looks like the kind of guy who wrestled other boys at his posh school, and played rugby and did all the things that posh rugby boys do like bum each other aggressively. Don't underestimate someone who barges a kid out of the way when he's running with a rugby ball. That's a man who has killer instinct. | |
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05-10-2020 07:05 PM
#881
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05-10-2020 07:07 PM
#882
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Boris has gotta be the hardest PM we've had since Thatcher. | |
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05-10-2020 07:31 PM
#883
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Last edited by Poopadoop; 05-10-2020 at 07:52 PM.
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05-10-2020 07:35 PM
#884
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To be honest, it looks like he tried to avoid hitting the kid but was too fat and clumsy to sidestep him. | |
Last edited by Poopadoop; 05-10-2020 at 07:40 PM.
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05-10-2020 07:36 PM
#885
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Wait for it. | |
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05-10-2020 07:59 PM
#886
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It's R0 Boris, not R. | |
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05-10-2020 09:00 PM
#887
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The US has been steadily seeing 20k new cases per day for a long time. | |
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05-11-2020 07:58 AM
#888
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This gives reported numbers of cases and deaths from CV for all countries. | |
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05-11-2020 11:07 AM
#889
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I think one big mistake most countries are doing is thinking lockdowns are too expensive, and that they are the main reason for economic consequences. Without a doubt the more dramatic measures such as closing down restaurants incur severe cost, but it's not like they would operate normally if they weren't forced to close. In most countries, the US included, the heavy economic hits came before any lockdown measures, since the customers were for a large part already self-quarantining. Any country with any substantial amount of their GDP reliant on exports or tourism is going to be f'd no matter what they do nationally. Sweden, the poster child for herd immunity is still seeing their GDP plummet >5% this year, in line with many other countries with far harsher measures. | |
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05-11-2020 12:04 PM
#890
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Well, one argument for doing it the Sweden way is we're all going to hit herd immunity at some point, and they're just doing it sooner rather than later. The guy (Engslbert or w/e his name is) in charge of it is a bit funny when he says that it's how everyone should be doing things though. In the UK, we've already had some weeks where the health services were overwhelmed or close to overwhelmed (depending on who you ask), and it's always going to spread more quickly in a dense country, so I think if we had stuck with our Plan A (no lockdown) we'd be even more fucked right now. All speculative of course, but it certainly wouldn't have been better, and could have been much much worse. | |
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05-11-2020 12:26 PM
#891
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Yeah I agree. Some finnish experts who apparently personally know Tegnell said a while back, that they are pot committed to their strategy and too proud to change it, who knows. Either way I guess at this point it would be best if they do stick with it, that's some invaluable empirical data for the future. | |
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05-11-2020 01:46 PM
#892
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Yeah, we'll have to wait awhile to find out how it went in Sweden I guess. Pretty sure that was never going to work here though. | |
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05-11-2020 02:54 PM
#893
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The public busses have been free to ride in StL for weeks. Passengers are required to enter and leave the bus via the back door, to maintain distance from the driver. | |
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05-12-2020 11:05 AM
#894
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Ong ... can't believe you forgot this one.. |
05-12-2020 11:27 AM
#895
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Last edited by Poopadoop; 05-12-2020 at 11:31 AM.
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05-12-2020 11:30 AM
#896
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No mention of masks in the gov't latest advice here. | |
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05-12-2020 01:14 PM
#897
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Those "scientists" are just jealous and butt hurt because they aren't on the inside. | |
05-12-2020 01:30 PM
#898
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05-12-2020 02:56 PM
#899
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05-12-2020 03:17 PM
#900
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