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 Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
Yes, I do believe [the motivation to suicide-bomb comes from outside Islam]. I don't think I've made that point in this thread, but it's between the lines, so fine.
I'd say the organization is responsible for the accidental repercussions of their beliefs, but the evidence clearly shows that there is nothing in Muslim religious texts that says suicide bombing in a proper way to go. At most, it has something akin to a Valhalla kind of vibe that if you die in valorous battle, you will be rewarded in the afterlife, but it's hard to think that the original text would consider suicide bombing an act of valor.
I'd say the evidence is pretty murky, and doesn't "clearly" show anything. Yes, there are passages in the Quran that explicitly denounce violence. But there are also passages that seem to make exceptions. A quick google search finds plenty of examples. "17:33 And do not kill anyone which Allah has forbidden, except for a just cause"
And you really can't say that this has been perverted by fringe members of the religion. Do a google search for "Pew Research Muslim Bombings". They did studies asking muslims worldwide whether they think bombing is a viable political tool. They found HUGE fractions (like a third) of the population have no issues with putting a bomb on a bus full of civilians.
In the USA, and probably most of western Europe, the politically correct line is that "the vast majority of muslims are non-violent". ANd that's probably true if you never leave the west. However, it's demonstrably NOT true when you look at the religion as a whole.
It's really not clear whether Islam is a religion, or a political ideology, or both. But it's probably not just a religion.
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