Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
People do that and much worse without the influence of religion. I think you may overestimate innate morality.
I have discussed family related problems with various members of my family a substantial amount. Logic and explanation is received almost entirely through the person's bias, and by the end of the conversation, not only has no progress towards a solution been made, but biases are probably entrenched.

Yet, every time I frame the situation in terms of the Bible, the family member stops filtering the information through their own biases that are causing the family trouble in the first place and instead filters through the bias that the Bible has the answers for how to comport oneself, and almost like waving a magic wand, they come away questioning their own role in the conflicts' causes.

It's almost like people are naturally homo sapiens. Religion appears to me to be an incredibly powerful tool to get homo sapiens that are acting like homo sapiens and causing the problems that homo sapiens are wont to cause to instead override their natural homo sapien-ness.

I don't know, maybe I have some special insight into this given my perceptions into my family. All they do is blame each other and it's impossible to get them to not blame each other with any logic or reason, but the moment I put the conflict in the perspective that the Christian ethos does, they stop blaming each other and start productively looking for solutions.

I'm not a fan of the worship of the natural human that the West has conjured off the back of the Christian ethos either.