Member when I name dropped Jordan Peterson because I was pretty sure that's where you got all that stuff from. In fairness I don't know all that much about him. I got through about 5 min. of the feminist thing you posted and there's probably nothing I'd disagree with there, but when it comes to german philosophers and psycho analysts he has his head waaaay up his ass. Waaaay up there, Morty.
Listening to him talk about Nietzsche is endearing and delightful, but he takes this stuff way too seriously. I was a really edgy teenager and I got pretty deep into Nietzsche. It probably wasn't until that one book where he goes on for ages about how all women suck and Wagner is best... I think it's Birth of Tragedy - that I realized maybe this is more humor than anything else. I mean that man wrote a book that consisted of chapters like: Why I'm so handsome. Why I'm so wise. And: Why I write such good books. It's all good fun, but you can't treat it like doctrine. What needs to happen is: Earnest Brecker needs to descend from a mountain and tell Jordan Peterson that Siegmund Freud is dead.
That whole thing that we are innately monsters is just demonstrably not true. If you look at isolated tribes they generally behave ethical within their group. You tend to behave ethically towards people you can expect to reciprocate. There's lots of murdering as well, but the people that get murdered are by large those you are not interacting with in a mutually beneficial manner.
Biologically this makes perfect sense. When two males fight over the right to mate - right then and there it makes more sense to kill your opponent. Your genes have a higher chance of survival that way. Problem is if you carry the behavioral phenotype for murdering sexual competitors, you're passing that on. That works great for one generation, but it's not a beneficial trait to have in the multi generational game. There are lots of more nuanced examples for the evolutionary benefits of all kinds of altruism, inter-tribal, inter-special or even across species (symbiosis).
I touched on this in the other thread. The thing to search for is game theory and evolution and there's lots of situations where GTO strategies are found in nature and those are also correlated to what we would consider moral behavior.
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