I thought we needed a dedicated thread for how capitalism is awesome and how much socialism and communism suck.
01-18-2018 06:35 PM
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Capitalism Rules, Socialism and Communism Suck ThreadI thought we needed a dedicated thread for how capitalism is awesome and how much socialism and communism suck. | |
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01-18-2018 06:35 PM
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01-18-2018 07:14 PM
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01-18-2018 07:16 PM
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01-18-2018 07:49 PM
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Fuck Bernie Sanders | |
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01-18-2018 07:58 PM
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Wanna hear a nifty argument for why government power should be increasingly limited? |
01-18-2018 08:07 PM
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D'Souza explains fascism's roots (Marxist roots). Give it a watch. It's very good. |
01-18-2018 08:13 PM
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this thread will be alot more fun once Poop comes in here and tells us how bad corporations are. |
01-18-2018 08:15 PM
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01-18-2018 08:48 PM
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I've been watching videos of stupid Antifa fucks getting hit by cars on YouTube. It's the shit. | |
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01-18-2018 08:49 PM
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Without clicking I knew it was pragerU, the blog that thinks it's a university | |
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01-18-2018 09:24 PM
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01-18-2018 09:40 PM
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01-18-2018 09:56 PM
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01-19-2018 12:21 AM
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Wuf is legit. I once said otherwise. That quote of his just throws it in my face how wrong I was. | |
01-19-2018 12:31 AM
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01-19-2018 02:20 AM
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01-19-2018 04:28 AM
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They're not cookies, they'ye fucking Oreos. | |
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01-19-2018 08:52 AM
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01-19-2018 05:28 PM
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01-19-2018 06:36 PM
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01-19-2018 06:46 PM
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01-19-2018 06:51 PM
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Thanks. I appreciate that. |
Last edited by wufwugy; 01-19-2018 at 08:59 PM. | |
01-19-2018 06:52 PM
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01-19-2018 06:55 PM
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Keep in mind that economics is not an exact science | |
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01-19-2018 07:07 PM
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That is quite true. I'd be wary of any position that emerges (subtly) from the fact that economics is not hard science means that one can essentially discard or adopt what they want. |
01-19-2018 07:14 PM
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01-19-2018 07:17 PM
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Last edited by wufwugy; 01-19-2018 at 07:41 PM. | |
01-19-2018 07:54 PM
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I'm seriously serious. I want to see everything you like that PhD economists have to say about economics. |
01-19-2018 08:09 PM
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He knows you're serious....but he's got nothing. |
01-19-2018 08:12 PM
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01-19-2018 08:17 PM
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meh, I think you know what I mean. We really don't have to get wordy for Jack's sake. Until he's literally the richest person on earth...he'll always be resentful and jealous of somebody. |
01-19-2018 08:27 PM
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01-19-2018 08:32 PM
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I'm sure there are. But explaining this, in any level of detail, is really a moot exercise when it comes to people like Jack. |
01-19-2018 08:33 PM
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01-19-2018 08:45 PM
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It's neat how not once in any of my economics classes did we cover the idea that taking from some to give to others makes for a better economy. Because economists, when operating within their academics, do not believe it because it can't be backed up. |
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01-19-2018 08:51 PM
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01-19-2018 09:13 PM
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01-19-2018 09:15 PM
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01-19-2018 09:22 PM
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01-19-2018 09:25 PM
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01-19-2018 09:34 PM
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01-19-2018 09:35 PM
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Only partially, since my comment was related to economics. |
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01-19-2018 09:51 PM
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01-19-2018 09:59 PM
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I'll actually give Jack some credit and say he wouldn't be so brazen. I suspect his arguments are more likely to be a list of stats illustrating cases of income inequality, followed by wild worst-case speculation about the reasons for it. |
01-19-2018 10:22 PM
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Nobody even has an explanation for what it means or what it entails. What causes income inequality, what does it cause? Nobody fucking knows. It's one of those things that appear meaningful on the surface but isn't beneath the surface. |
01-19-2018 10:31 PM
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Hit me with that Price's Law. | |
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01-20-2018 03:37 AM
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There's no point talking to them Jack. They're not interested in having an open discussion (well at least the two T.I.'s aren't), they just want to turn every thread into a right-wing circle jerk where anyone who doesn't share their views gets heaped with scorn until they decide life's too short. At that point they feel good because it makes them think they've somehow 'won' the argument. | |
01-20-2018 04:05 AM
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As an example, in the nordic countries where education is free, there quite effectively is nothing resembling a class system. Literally everyone with the mental and physical capacity is able to become e.g. a surgeon if they so choose. Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the US that's not really the case. You basically need either wealthy parents, a scholarship, or have to take massive risks by ending up with massive debt before you graduate, which means that if you don't immediately get a suitable job you're screwed. Also it's been said here that being born to a minority family in a poor neighborhood in effect blocks you from ever having a proper career. | |
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01-20-2018 06:17 AM
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Bill, I don't think you know what income mobility is. But even if we assume you're understanding of the concept....how do you explain this contradiction... |
01-20-2018 06:20 AM
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Fuck man don't you sleep? It's still am here in UK ffs. | |
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01-20-2018 06:22 AM
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False. You just don't realize it because you don't have any solid points or arguments. At least not in the last week or so. All you've been spouting is partisan, tinfoil induced drivel about an enormously credentialed doctor being a liar based on absolutely no evidence other than the fact that he didn't shit all over your most hated politician. |
01-20-2018 06:24 AM
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01-20-2018 06:25 AM
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I like being up at 5am if it's light, which is like for one month of the year. | |
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01-20-2018 06:34 AM
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You are wrong. |
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01-20-2018 06:37 AM
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01-20-2018 11:12 AM
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What capitalism really needs right now is HIGH ENERGY memes to really bump it up a notch. | |
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01-20-2018 11:33 AM
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01-20-2018 11:38 AM
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Oh I totally am. | |
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01-20-2018 11:43 AM
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Merit in education was always strong in America. Growing up, I always remembered that people who showed aptitude and work ethic earned quite a lot of stuff, from closer relationships with faculty to scholarships. There's a great deal of love and pride for things like providing scholarships to students who demonstrate that they will likely use them productively. The system I just described still remains but it is undergoing change, probably due to government grants and loans effecting reduced merit in order to succeed in the system. |
01-20-2018 11:52 AM
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01-20-2018 12:04 PM
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01-20-2018 12:07 PM
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01-20-2018 12:34 PM
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01-20-2018 12:35 PM
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01-20-2018 12:39 PM
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01-20-2018 12:40 PM
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01-20-2018 12:45 PM
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Communism sucks unless you want to end up in a labor camp or a fucking ditch after you starved to death. | |
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01-20-2018 03:45 PM
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01-20-2018 03:52 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Gatsby_curve | |
Last edited by CoccoBill; 01-20-2018 at 04:00 PM.
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01-20-2018 03:54 PM
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01-20-2018 06:49 PM
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Seems cloudy. It definitely doesn't show anything that compares to the numbers I posted in a way that would allow you to say that X country is Better/worse than the USA. Two totally different analyses. |
Last edited by BananaStand; 01-20-2018 at 06:52 PM. | |
01-21-2018 05:52 AM
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It absolutely does. There is a very strong correlation between income disparity and income mobility shown by how the data tend to cluster around a diagonal line going up and to the right. | |
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01-21-2018 06:42 AM
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No, it shows income disparity and the likelihood of a change in relative income. that's it. The information that I provided demonstrates the likelihood of a change in relative income AND how much, AND in which direction. So comparing my numbers, to this chart, and then saying X country is "better" than USA is a leap not supported by the data. |
01-21-2018 07:08 AM
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It's hard to evaluate the figures you provided without a source. Do you have one? | |