Capitalism Rules, Socialism and Communism Suck Thread

[Poopadoop]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-43414145?SThisFB

"It looks at factors including economic strength (measured in GDP per capita), social support, life expectancy, freedom of choice, generosity, and perceived corruption."

The US is #18.

What do you think makes Finland the happiest? It's not the weather or being so close to Russia.

[BananaStand]

What do you think makes Finland the happiest? It's not the weather or being so close to Russia.

I'm not sure where the term "happiest" even came from. This study asks "how successful do you think you are in relation to the rest of your society?". And for some reason, whoever authored the study made the seemingly arbitrary decision to call that "happiness"

WTF???

This study is propaganda. Not science.

[OngBonga]

In America, the ladder is very very tall, with many rungs. In Finland, and wherever else tops that stupid phony list, the ladder is about two feet tall.

So climb short ladders. Be happy, win.

[OngBonga]

Basically banana is arguing "Finns are happier because they're less ambitious than we are".

Well good for them.

[OngBonga]

I'm not sure where the term "happiest" even came from. This study asks "how successful do you think you are in relation to the rest of your society?".

I don't see that explicitly in the question. That seems to be your interpretation. Did I miss something in the article?

[BananaStand]

I don't see that explicitly in the question. That seems to be your interpretation. Did I miss something in the article?

It says to rank yourself between "best possible life" and "worst possible life"

If I'm misinterpreting this question, and "best" doesn't mean "most successful", then there must be a shitload of Scandinavians with squadooche for motivation. In that case, "best" and "worst" are functions of how lazy you're able to be without dying.

Are people really that fucking worthless in Finland?

Things might be worst than I thought over there.

[OngBonga]

Perhaps that's because I measure success in happiness, not the other way around.

[Poopadoop]

Any wording of the question is going to be open to criticism - that's just the nature of trying to quantify something abstract like happiness.

That said, it's probably no coincidence that people who respond more positively to questions aimed to assess happiness live in countries with certain characteristics, like universal health care and guaranteed paid leave and so on.

If people in Iran or Afganistan were topping the list of happy countries, I'd be more skeptical of the results than I am now.

[CoccoBill]

If I'm misinterpreting this question, and "best" doesn't mean "most successful", then there must be a shitload of Scandinavians with squadooche for motivation. In that case, "best" and "worst" are functions of how lazy you're able to be without dying.

Are people really that fucking worthless in Finland?

Things might be worst than I thought over there.

When you grow older, young padawan, you may realize that financial success has little correlation with perceived happiness.

[BananaStand]

When you grow older, young padawan, you may realize that financial success has little correlation with perceived happiness.

What if that perception is heavily colored by leftist propaganda?? Is that better?

You really don't see how a shorter ladder is worse? What happens to all the people who enjoy high ladders? They're GONE!

How many top 50 universities are in finland? HOw many top 50 hospitals (what is your universal healthcare doing for you?)? How many top 50 corporations?

How do you not see that your country's insistence on equality of outcome, rather than equality of opportunity, has chased off all of your producers??!! And what's left? A country full of suicide contemplaters buried in household debt relying on the nanny state to quell their anxiety.

You call that happiness??????????

[CoccoBill]

What if that perception is heavily colored by leftist propaganda?? Is that better?

You really don't see how a shorter ladder is worse? What happens to all the people who enjoy high ladders? They're GONE!

How many top 50 universities are in finland? HOw many top 50 hospitals (what is your universal healthcare doing for you?)? How many top 50 corporations?

How do you not see that your country's insistence on equality of outcome, rather than equality of opportunity, has chased off all of your producers??!! And what's left? A country full of suicide contemplaters buried in household debt relying on the nanny state to quell their anxiety.

You call that happiness??????????

Protip: The ladders aren't income brackets. Also, try to calm down, it's ok. Just grab a beer and you'll forget this information ever entered your brain. You'll be happy and chanting U-S-A sooner than you think.