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    Well, my bias is clear, but I'd suggest getting a nice, thick, illustrated intro physics book.
    I recommend physics as a starting point for all sciences, because I don't know of a science degree that doesn't require introductory physics.
    It shouldn't be too hard to find used textbooks online.

    Randall D. Knight - Physics for Scientists and Engineers is a good choice. It's available used for ~$20 after a brief google search, so practically free considering it's over 1,200 pages.

    David J. Griffiths - Introduction to Quantum Mechanics is extremely well written, but does rely heavily on your background understanding of linear algebra and some other physics concepts.

    Peter V. O'Neill - Advanced Engineering Mathematics is another one of my "always on the reading list" books. It's another huge compendium of a textbook, but it covers so much math that is put to regular use in any engineering field, like diff EQ and linear algebra.

    Brian Bradie - A Friendly Introduction to Numerical Analysis will be extremely useful if you'll be using computers to gather and analyze data. The quirkiness of dealing with a discrete number system and not a continuous number line is interesting to unravel, and can sink your research if you aren't aware of the pitfalls.

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    Every book I've mentioned so far is in rotation for my bathroom reading materials. They are not books I used for a class and never opened again.

    A good text on probability and statistics could be extremely useful, but I assume you're already solid on those topics.


    Other than that, science covers a wide range of fields. There's every corner of engineering, chemistry, biology, geology, etc. Is there any field in specific which attracts you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    Well, my bias is clear, but I'd suggest getting a nice, thick, illustrated intro physics book.
    I recommend physics as a starting point for all sciences, because I don't know of a science degree that doesn't require introductory physics.
    It shouldn't be too hard to find used textbooks online.

    Randall D. Knight - Physics for Scientists and Engineers is a good choice. It's available used for ~$20 after a brief google search, so practically free considering it's over 1,200 pages.

    David J. Griffiths - Introduction to Quantum Mechanics is extremely well written, but does rely heavily on your background understanding of linear algebra and some other physics concepts.

    Peter V. O'Neill - Advanced Engineering Mathematics is another one of my "always on the reading list" books. It's another huge compendium of a textbook, but it covers so much math that is put to regular use in any engineering field, like diff EQ and linear algebra.

    Brian Bradie - A Friendly Introduction to Numerical Analysis will be extremely useful if you'll be using computers to gather and analyze data. The quirkiness of dealing with a discrete number system and not a continuous number line is interesting to unravel, and can sink your research if you aren't aware of the pitfalls.

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    Every book I've mentioned so far is in rotation for my bathroom reading materials. They are not books I used for a class and never opened again.

    A good text on probability and statistics could be extremely useful, but I assume you're already solid on those topics.


    Other than that, science covers a wide range of fields. There's every corner of engineering, chemistry, biology, geology, etc. Is there any field in specific which attracts you?
    Physics, everything else isn't science.

    I love you and your enthusiasm for science. Thank you for the suggestions. I want to get more into particle physics. I'm having a slight crisis in life that I'm wasting myself that I go through every year or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    I'm having a slight crisis in life that I'm wasting myself that I go through every year or so.
    Happy Birthday
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    Happy Birthday
    Birthday isn't till August.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    Physics, everything else isn't science.
    Well, I didn't mention that you need to be familiar with and competent at vector calculus for most of physics. Knight goes pretty easy on the calc., but you need to know vector math and what a derivative is and how to find the derivative of some simple functions. Same for integrals. That stuff is covered in O'Neill.

    You'll need to be able to think your way through a cross product in order to understand torque and how electric and magnetic fields interact. The right hand rule comes up often enough and its something students tend to struggle with.

    If you're good with those foundations, then start with Knight and Griffiths. Feel free to jump right into Griffiths Intro to QM if you like, but keep the Knight text on the side just to reference. Otherwise, start with Knight and keep O'Neill as reference.

    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    I love you and your enthusiasm for science. Thank you for the suggestions.
    Aw, shucks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    Well, my bias is clear, but I'd suggest getting a nice, thick, illustrated intro physics book.
    I recommend physics as a starting point for all sciences, because I don't know of a science degree that doesn't require introductory physics.
    It shouldn't be too hard to find used textbooks online.

    Randall D. Knight - Physics for Scientists and Engineers is a good choice. It's available used for ~$20 after a brief google search, so practically free considering it's over 1,200 pages.

    David J. Griffiths - Introduction to Quantum Mechanics is extremely well written, but does rely heavily on your background understanding of linear algebra and some other physics concepts.

    Peter V. O'Neill - Advanced Engineering Mathematics is another one of my "always on the reading list" books. It's another huge compendium of a textbook, but it covers so much math that is put to regular use in any engineering field, like diff EQ and linear algebra.

    Brian Bradie - A Friendly Introduction to Numerical Analysis will be extremely useful if you'll be using computers to gather and analyze data. The quirkiness of dealing with a discrete number system and not a continuous number line is interesting to unravel, and can sink your research if you aren't aware of the pitfalls.
    All those books are like £50+. Which isn't much but it really puts me off. At teh same time stats and probability is probably (or maybe I'm misunderstanding) my weakest part as I never really did any.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    All those books are like £50+. Which isn't much but it really puts me off. At teh same time stats and probability is probably (or maybe I'm misunderstanding) my weakest part as I never really did any.
    I didn't really love my prob-stats book, so I'm not as eager to recommend it as those other titles.

    I'm not sure what to tell you about the prices. Those books cost hundreds new, and the Knight and O'Neill texts are over 1,200 pages each.
    I did find a copy of Knight for $20 when I googled it, so maybe just keep checking from time to time until you find a price you're comfortable with.
    There's no real reason for you to get the most recent edition of any of those texts. Maybe older books will be cheaper? Very little tends to change from one edition to the next in math-based text books. The pictures and order of things is usually the biggest change.

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    Of course, libraries do loan out books, as was noted by Coccobill. College libraries may or may not be part of the public library system of the city, and may or may not be open to the general public. Check into those, if you're going this route.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    I didn't really love my prob-stats book, so I'm not as eager to recommend it as those other titles.

    I'm not sure what to tell you about the prices. Those books cost hundreds new, and the Knight and O'Neill texts are over 1,200 pages each.
    I did find a copy of Knight for $20 when I googled it, so maybe just keep checking from time to time until you find a price you're comfortable with.
    There's no real reason for you to get the most recent edition of any of those texts. Maybe older books will be cheaper? Very little tends to change from one edition to the next in math-based text books. The pictures and order of things is usually the biggest change.

    ***
    Of course, libraries do loan out books, as was noted by Coccobill. College libraries may or may not be part of the public library system of the city, and may or may not be open to the general public. Check into those, if you're going this route.
    Yeah it's 100% me wanting something for nothing. I don't disagree. I'm like ohh I'd like to half ass learning physics and it cost me nothing, I'm entitled bro.

    I should check out my uni library and see how much I can get away with now I'm a graduate.
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    (Late post. Sorry. This was open on my work computer when I came in today. I thought I sent it on Friday.)


    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    Yeah it's 100% me wanting something for nothing. I don't disagree. I'm like ohh I'd like to half ass learning physics and it cost me nothing, I'm entitled bro.

    I should check out my uni library and see how much I can get away with now I'm a graduate.
    There's always MIT OpenCourseware on YouTube.

    Phys I
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo28...gtgOt8LGH6tJbr

    Phys II
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtlJ...OILaOC2hk6Pc3j
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    (Late post. Sorry. This was open on my work computer when I came in today. I thought I sent it on Friday.)



    There's always MIT OpenCourseware on YouTube.

    Phys I
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo28...gtgOt8LGH6tJbr

    Phys II
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtlJ...OILaOC2hk6Pc3j
    Too late, dead to me.

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