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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    I don't know dude. That all really sounds like a lot of maybes and excuses.

    Still sounds to me like doing the exact same experiment will yield two different results based on whether or not certain parts of that experiment are being observed.

    That's spooky fucking shit!
    This is mostly spot on, actually.

    I mean,there are no maybes* or excuses, but it does sound like I'm making stuff up.
    Like I said: There's no reason you should believe hearsay on the internet, whether from me or colonel Sanders in spandex.

    It is spooky. There are more spooky aspects to quantum, too.
    Check out the EPR paradox.


    *OK, saying that the position and momentum of all the things are actually best described by squaring a complex-valued probability density function, then integrating that over some domain - that sounds dangerously close to maybes... but it's really not. That probability density function is well-defined and repeated experiments continue to confirm its utility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    This is mostly spot on, actually.
    I know. What about the subsequent post where we determine that I'm God? You on board with that too?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    I mean,there are no maybes* or excuses, but it does sound like I'm making stuff up..
    For what it's worth, it was better than Ong's explanation where photons shoot out of your eyeballs.

    Like I said: There's no reason you should believe hearsay on the internet, whether from me or colonel Sanders in spandex
    Let's be clear on one thing. This is the last time you badmouth the colonel.

    It is spooky. There are more spooky aspects to quantum, too.
    Check out the EPR paradox.
    No shit it's spooky. So fuck your EPR paradox. I'm not interested in giving myself nightmares.

    *OK, saying that the position and momentum of all the things are actually best described by [nerd talk]
    I can sorta wrap my head around the idea of things being two places at once and all that. Like the electron passing through the double slit is both a particle and a wave. And it goes through both slits, and neither. Or just one. Or just the other. All at the same time. Fine.

    What's not clear to me is how I can personally determine whether it's one thing or another just by my conscious decision to pay attention to it or not.

    The idea that a thought is a physical thing that interacts with the environment around it is a pretty incredible thing to think about. Imagine the power that might be unleashed if a whole bunch of people all had the same thought at the same time!

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