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    You seem to think lying under contract is fraud. It's not. Lying under contract is in the vast majority of cases a civil issue at worst. Maybe the jobcentre could sue me for not meeting my contractual obligations. But it's not fraud. You seem to have a very broad idea of what fraud is. Fraud is criminal. Breach of contract is not.

    If you are under a voluntary contract
    This is also arguable. I am not under a voluntary contract. If I don't sign, I either have to beg my friends and family to provde my food or shelter, or go without. To say I choose to be subject to their conditions is wide of the mark. I am subject to their conditions because my options are limited. This isn't voluntary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    You seem to think lying under contract is fraud. It's not. Lying under contract is in the vast majority of cases a civil issue at worst. Maybe the jobcentre could sue me for not meeting my contractual obligations. But it's not fraud. You seem to have a very broad idea of what fraud is. Fraud is criminal. Breach of contract is not.
    Nits picked. What you're doing is indecent and unethical by my standards.

    Quibbling over which law you're breaking is of marginal interest. Still, I may be confusing different laws, and that's a fair point.

    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    This is also arguable. I am not under a voluntary contract. If I don't sign, I either have to beg my friends and family to provde my food or shelter, or go without. To say I choose to be subject to their conditions is wide of the mark. I am subject to their conditions because my options are limited. This isn't voluntary.
    You are making a whole slew of choices which perpetuate your circumstances.

    What if the shoe was on the other foot? What if you had some friend crashing on your couch who keeps assuring you that he's looking for a job, while you pay for his food and rent. What if you found out he was lying to you?

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    In what way are you prevented from living where weed is legal?
    Is there anything beside a few years of sacrifice that prevent you from living there?

    I'm getting at the fact that it's not like you are living in North Korea and can't leave. If there is any impediment to your emigrating to a nation which is more in line with your beliefs, I'd wager it's something you could overcome if you worked for it.

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