Anti-Capitalist Sentiment (with some morality)

[wufwugy]

Yes, on a philosophical level, what you're doing is playing imagination games with rules. These rules-based systems change over time. You don't gotta bring evolution into this.

But I do because it suggests that markets are the same type of thing as something else that is widely accepted. That doesn't give markets veracity, but it does provide perspective about them.

I remember thinking "the way people are saying markets organize looks to me to be the same way species organize, so since the way it is said that species organize is true, maybe I should rethink my discarding of markets".

[a500lbgorilla]

But I do because it suggests that markets are the same type of thing as something else that is widely accepted. That doesn't give markets veracity, but it does provide perspective about them.

I remember thinking "the way people are saying markets organize looks to me to be the same way species organize, so since the way it is said that species organize is true, maybe I should rethink my discarding of markets".

Yes, my point exactly. And when you look at the reasons to accept evolution versus the reason to accept markets, one is left desperately wanting.

And I contend that in a rhetorical sense, it does try to give them unearned veracity.

[wufwugy]

Yes, my point exactly. And when you look at the reasons to accept evolution versus the reason to accept markets, one is left desperately wanting.

I wouldn't argue with that. Though I'm not a fan of the disparaging language. The answer to "is evolution true?" is "about as true as you can get" while the answer to "are markets true?" (a weird question, but whatever) is "all signs point towards yes, but if you're picking the nits, it's not the most robustly known thing in the world".

And I contend that in a rhetorical sense, it does try to give them unearned veracity.

Sure. I think you could describe arguments that way.