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    The power of choice that people have over their own circumstances that the vote gives them: +1 strength.

    The power of choice that people have over their own circumstances that capitalism gives them: +1000 strength.



    I think this my new go-to logic. I mean, most people claim democracy is good because the vote gives people power over their circumstances. So if something is better than the vote at doing that, then doesn't that mean that all pro-democracy people should become pro-that-other-thing people instead?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    The power of choice that people have over their own circumstances that the vote gives them: +1 strength.

    The power of choice that people have over their own circumstances that capitalism gives them: +1000 strength.



    I think this my new go-to logic. I mean, most people claim democracy is good because the vote gives people power over their circumstances. So if something is better than the vote at doing that, then doesn't that mean that all pro-democracy people should become pro-that-other-thing people instead?
    An adjunct to this is that my own personal theory is that the benefits people got from the democratic constitutional revolutions are in how the constitutions restrain government power. Before the US Constitution, it was legal for the government to do 100% of things. But then the operating difference became that some things are illegal for the government to do. The plaintext declares that our freedoms emerge from this regulatory restraint:

    Amendment I

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Before the US Constitution, it was legal for the government to do 100% of things.
    Which government? There wasn't really a US government before the constitution. There was a provisional government. I understand they had laws, too.

    I don't know how far back into history you have to look to find an ungoverned people. Do you know of any?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    Which government? There wasn't really a US government before the constitution. There was a provisional government. I understand they had laws, too.

    I don't know how far back into history you have to look to find an ungoverned people. Do you know of any?
    I worded that weirdly, but I'm referring to every government I've read about. At least ones that arose after the classical Greeks. Unless I'm wrong, I think the revolution of the US Constitution was that it was the first state with an actual constitution with restraints on government.

    I miiiiiight be wrong on this, but I don't think so: the constitutional revolutions overthrew monarchies with technically total legal power.
    Last edited by wufwugy; 06-26-2015 at 10:10 PM.

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