Anti-Capitalist Sentiment (with some morality)

[Renton]

His question was would we even know about climate change if not for governments spending loads of tax dollars on research. It's easily demonstrable that the answer is yes. Not every scientist in the world is on a government grant, and people want to now about stuff like ths. There's a clear market for that kind of information. Now if the question is how would a private society stop climate change? Well that is a tougher question. How are governments stopping climate change? They of course aren't. So to pelt libertarians with tomatoes from your ivory tower of socialism over climate change is laughably absurd because you're doing no better of a job.

[d0zer]

His question was would we even know about climate change if not for governments spending loads of tax dollars on research. It's easily demonstrable that the answer is yes. Not every scientist in the world is on a government grant, and people want to now about stuff like ths. There's a clear market for that kind of information. Now if the question is how would a private society stop climate change? Well that is a tougher question. How are governments stopping climate change? They of course aren't. So to pelt libertarians with tomatoes from your ivory tower of socialism over climate change is laughably absurd because you're doing no better of a job.

To be fair, all the important governments are largely controlled by industry so of course they're not biting the hand that feeds. Presumably these socialist tomato pelter types you speak of are dreaming of governments where this isn't the case. I think that's a pipe dream because I fatalistically believe that big money will always be in control and act in its best interest, regardless of whether or not it's private or "public". At least with capitalism, the power is less centralized.

[boost]

His question was would we even know about climate change if not for governments spending loads of tax dollars on research. It's easily demonstrable that the answer is yes. Not every scientist in the world is on a government grant, and people want to now about stuff like ths. There's a clear market for that kind of information. Now if the question is how would a private society stop climate change? Well that is a tougher question. How are governments stopping climate change? They of course aren't. So to pelt libertarians with tomatoes from your ivory tower of socialism over climate change is laughably absurd because you're doing no better of a job.

You're still cherry picking.

Examples of negative effects of capitalism are brushed off, since government intervention is too entangled in the market-- but as soon as there is a positive attributed to our current form of capitalism, you opine on how capitalism ushered in this benefit.

Is our current system too encumbered by government intervention to extrapolate meaningful claims about capitalism, or is it not?