Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
Because they haven't done what you suggested. Additionally, the "harsh" government regulations are nothing of the sort. The regulations have created a zero competition space. Big Tobacco would be powerless relative to where it is now if the barriers to competition created by regulations were not so incredibly high.
They haven't done what? Marketed tobacco as healthy? Put out their own research belittling the health issues and bought out competition?

Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
This not working aside, what you're suggesting is that an unaccountable entity should do this instead of accountable entities.
This would carry a lot more weight with some non-anecdotal evidence.

I don't see my tobacco cartel being in any practical sense accountable to anyone.

Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
The amount of accountability this engenders is a tiny fraction relative to the accountability the market engenders.

You can vote once biyearly or you can vote lots of times every day. You can vote for something extremely vague or you can vote for specific clear things.

By now, we're back in circles. This topic is hardly even debatable. People adore extolling the virtues of freedom for every aspect of their lives except the ones they've been hammered into believing otherwise.
Yes, we are, and that's largely because you're not so much arguing against the theory of a government but against the current state of affairs in the US using cherry picked examples and anecdotes. Any alternative system will look awesome if that's the benchmark.

We may once again just have to agree to disagree.