Anti-Capitalist Sentiment (with some morality)

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post #83 is absolute rubbish.

N Korea is more extreme and it's blunders which it's despots' blunders, which it's people unfairly have to shoulder, are more extreme. Nonetheless the Soviets did essentially destroy their farms during Stalin's reign.

Your maps mean nothing without further context. Do you have a source, or are you an expert on the topography and population densities of not only the United States, but also Soviet Russia? At a glance, the distribution of manufacturing, in what I'm assuming is a map of the USSR (which curiously has St. Petersburg instead of Leningrad), seems to make sense. Roughly two thirds of manufacturing being in Western Russia, the rest is distributed among the the populated outposts in the East, which to my knowledge are resource rich, and they're all connected by waterway, rail, or both.

And again, you assert that a classless society was achieved, yet in the very same sentence speak of a ruling class. Gtfo...

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N Korea is more extreme and it's blunders which it's despots' blunders, which it's people unfairly have to shoulder, are more extreme. Nonetheless the Soviets did essentially destroy their farms during Stalin's reign.

You suggest achieving communal rules without centralization how? I'm not trying to be terse and I'm not keen on discussing NK because it has a host of other more significant issues going on with it, but there is a striking trend by the pro-socialist to disregard any negative socialist examples. A society doesn't have to be 100% socialist to examine its socialist elements.

Your maps mean nothing without further context. Do you have a source, or are you an expert on the topography and population densities of not only the United States, but also Soviet Russia? At a glance, the distribution of manufacturing, in what I'm assuming is a map of the USSR (which curiously has St. Petersburg instead of Leningrad), seems to make sense. Roughly two thirds of manufacturing being in Western Russia, the rest is distributed among the the populated outposts in the East, which to my knowledge are resource rich, and they're all connected by waterway, rail, or both.

They're straight out of my textbook, and the topography is awful. Really awful. It doesn't look too terrible at first glance because the map resizes area, but there are basically incredible distances between most of the manufacturing, the materials, energy, and cheap transport. Notice how the US manufacturing belt stops when the Great Lakes do, but the Russian one just keeps going and going and going. It's not even a belt. The manufacturing zones were not built with adherence to economic principles. Simple geography like this may not seem like much of a big deal, but it is

And again, you assert that a classless society was achieved, yet in the very same sentence speak of a ruling class. Gtfo...

I'm unconvinced that you read what I said. Even though there was a central government that was a class above the proletariat, the USSR had a mass of single class citizens. The experiment happened

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We have Elon Musk because the public sector has dropped the ball. Or maybe it's your way.. but I'm not convinced this isn't a chicken or the egg setup..