Quote Originally Posted by The Bean Counter View Post
Np. I was just looking through to see if any fish had luckboxed a score and spotted one! Seems an odd payout structure though for a 4-handed shootout where everybody is all-in every hand - the Advanced shootout paid nearly 50% of runners, which is stupid in a tournament of this structure.

I've got mixed feelings about Zoom. On the one hand, most of the profit at the tables comes from table and seat selection (which isn't possible at Zoom ofc). On the other hand, you can play a bunch of hands but still get some time to make tricky decisions compared to 10-12 tabling standard, since you don't have to routine fold hands on the side and move your mouse around like maniac. I suspect the average player is weak at Zoom too - thoughts?

Your aims seem more than reasonable and hitting SN at 50nl is doable if you 4-table Zoom and average around 55 hours per month. 6bb/100 is good enough to move up too as long as your sample is 50k hands+.
haha thanks, I liked the structure tbh. Isn't meant to be a tournament just basically a good way to get people to put in some extra VPP and giving everyone a little bit. I've gone for advanced this week, hopefully put in enough volum today to end on about 250vpp.

I'm really liking zoom atm player pool is bad enough, the games at least up to 100nl (dunno about higher) are apparently easily beatable for a decent bb/100. The sample isn't that big unfortunately, and I doubt my true win rate is as high as 6bb/100 although the games are soft enough that I don't think it'll be much lower. Although I think some of the problem is because I realise how bad, when in reality I'm quite good compared to the standard of the pool.

What I've been told is that the average zoom reg is probably slightly worse than the average reg at the level above for the lower limits of zoom. But you don't get the fun of playing with fish all the time, I somewhat enjoy not having that. I was going to mix zoom & reg, but have really gone off reg tables atm. 6 tabling was really hard for some reason even though I 4 table zoom without any real hassle.

I'm thinking 3bb/100 at 25nl zoom is going to be the aim for the first few months of the year. I worked out that 3.5k hands a day for 300 days is about SN pace or 3k hands a day every day. Which is more than doable, especially if I factor in moving up.

The more short term aim though is grind out enough to play 25nl zoom for the start of the year. Staker was reasonably happy with the above idea and has said if I'm close enough come the end of the year he'll make up the difference so I can start playing.