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  1. #1
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    Should I even bother? I just simply can't remember in my history of 5 years of serious poker a heater that wasn't immediately followed by a downswing of epic proportions. I mean I'm no stranger to variance and losing 4-5 buyins wouldnt' be a big deal. But i'm talking dropping 10 buyins in 30 minutes kind of thing.

    Again, these are the hands I just dealt with in an hour span. Someone tell me, am I just being a bitch whining about variance? Like how often does this stuff happen to you other grinders? For some reason I have this impression that variance fucks me more than everyone else but that seems pretty illogical. I'm obv not including the fact that I lost every flip today.

    No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    SB ($333.09)
    BB ($47.69)
    UTG ($269.25)
    MP ($222.45)
    CO ($277)
    Hero (Button) ($194)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with A, A
    1 fold, MP bets $7, 1 fold, Hero raises $23, 1 fold, BB calls $21, MP raises $215.45 (All-In), Hero calls $171 (All-In), BB calls $24.69 (All-In)

    Flop: ($436.69) 5, 9, K (3 players, 3 all-in)

    Turn: ($436.69) 6 (3 players, 3 all-in)

    River: ($436.69) 7 (3 players, 3 all-in)

    Total pot: $436.69

    Results:
    Hero had A, A (one pair, Aces).
    BB had A, 10 (high card, Ace).
    MP had K, K (three of a kind, Kings).
    Outcome: MP won $462.14

    No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    MP ($126.14)
    Button ($213.40)
    SB ($67.55)
    BB ($180.90)
    Hero (UTG) ($376.90)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, K
    Hero bets $7, 1 fold, Button raises $22, 2 folds, Hero calls $15

    Flop: ($47) 10, 8, 8 (2 players)
    Hero checks, Button bets $40, Hero raises $354.90 (All-In), Button calls $151.40 (All-In)

    Turn: ($429.80) 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    River: ($429.80) 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Total pot: $429.80

    Results:
    Button had A, A (two pair, Aces and eights).
    Hero had A, K (two pair, eights and sevens).
    Outcome: Button won $426.80


    No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    MP ($242.75)
    CO ($213.25)
    Button ($215.50)
    Hero (SB) ($198)
    BB ($138.30)
    UTG ($210)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with A, 2
    2 folds, CO bets $6, 1 fold, Hero raises $20, 1 fold, CO calls $15

    Flop: ($44) 2, A, 9 (2 players)
    Hero bets $27, CO raises $192.25 (All-In), Hero calls $150 (All-In)

    Turn: ($398) 10 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    River: ($398) 4 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Total pot: $398

    Results:
    Hero had A, 2 (two pair, Aces and twos).
    CO had A, 9 (two pair, Aces and nines).
    Outcome: CO won $410.25


    No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    UTG ($530.40)
    MP ($369.35)
    Hero (Button) ($196.65)
    SB ($204)
    BB ($200)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with K, A
    2 folds, Hero bets $6, SB raises $22, 1 fold, Hero raises $45, SB raises $181 (All-In), Hero calls $145.65 (All-In)

    Flop: ($395.30) 3, 9, 6 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Turn: ($395.30) 8 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    River: ($395.30) 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Total pot: $395.30

    Results:
    Hero had K, A (one pair, nines).
    SB had A, A (two pair, Aces and nines).
    Outcome: SB won $399.65


    No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    CO ($123.14)
    Button ($426.80)
    SB ($62.55)
    BB ($183.35)
    UTG ($219.93)
    Hero (MP) ($194)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with Q, J
    UTG bets $6, Hero calls $6, 1 fold, Button calls $6, 2 folds

    Flop: ($21) 10, J, J (3 players)
    UTG bets $15.75, Hero calls $15.75, 1 fold

    Turn: ($52.50) 8 (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $38, UTG raises $102.25, Hero raises $134.25 (All-In), UTG calls $70

    River: ($397) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Total pot: $397

    Results:
    UTG had 8, 8 (full house, eights over Jacks).
    Hero had Q, J (three of a kind, Jacks).
    Outcome: UTG won $394

    Villain was a mega-whale in this one, my shove was a fistpump

    No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    BB ($200)
    UTG ($284.70)
    MP ($200.50)
    CO ($395.28)
    Button ($199)
    Hero (SB) ($192)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with K, K
    2 folds, CO bets $8, 1 fold, Hero raises $26, 1 fold, CO calls $19

    Flop: ($56) 10, 7, 8 (2 players)
    Hero bets $33, CO raises $66, Hero raises $132 (All-In), CO calls $99

    Turn: ($386) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: ($386) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Total pot: $386

    Results:
    Hero had K, K (one pair, Kings).
    CO had 8, 8 (three of a kind, eights).
    Outcome: CO won $383


    No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    MP ($153.25)
    Hero (Button) ($189.80)
    SB ($168.95)
    BB ($202.60)
    UTG ($187)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with 6, 9
    2 folds, Hero bets $6, SB calls $5, 1 fold

    Flop: ($14) 9, 3, 6 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $10.50, SB calls $10.50

    Turn: ($35) K (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $26.25, SB calls $26.25

    River: ($87.50) A (2 players)
    SB bets $65.62, Hero calls $65.62

    Total pot: $218.74

    Results:
    Hero didn't show 6, 9 (nothing).
    SB had 3, 3 (three of a kind, threes).
    Outcome: SB won $215.74

    No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Hero (MP) ($254.85)
    CO ($206.50)
    Button ($203)
    SB ($321.65)
    BB ($213.15)
    UTG ($424.04)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with 8, 9
    1 fold, Hero bets $7, CO calls $7, Button calls $7, 1 fold, BB calls $5

    Flop: ($29) K, 6, 2 (4 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks

    Turn: ($29) 4 (4 players)
    BB bets $16, Hero calls $16, CO calls $16, Button calls $16

    River: ($93) Q (4 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $57, 1 fold, Button raises $180 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero folds

    Total pot: $207

    Results:
    Button didn't show
    Outcome: Button won $327



    Anyway, there are more bu tI give up. I just looked and I was 0/5 in flips for full buyins. Every one funnily enough was QQ vs AK or AK vs QQ.
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  2. #2
    Hand 2) Ak shove on T88dd seems.. I don't know.. unecessary? If you're flatting pre to keep worse in, then keep c/c if anything.

    89cc good fold

    Rest are obviously gross mega coolers
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by griffey24 View Post
    Hand 2) Ak shove on T88dd seems.. I don't know.. unecessary? If you're flatting pre to keep worse in, then keep c/c if anything.

    89cc good fold

    Rest are obviously gross mega coolers
    think AK is a fold or shove, its not like we expect him to bluff on later streets unless he has KJ and hits a K and we stack him. With that cbet sizing i'd just definitely fold flop though and not consider anything else.
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  4. #4
    ok fine but yah.. if he bets $35ish or something.. I definitely wouldn't shove. I would make it like $76 or something.

    Shoving seems pretty pointless here to me. Wanna at least maximize getting it in with the most bs hands that aren't strong draws as possible.

    Are we expecting some weird hand like 58ss to b/f here to our shove?

    Are we hoping our shove looks drawy, and he b/c with AQ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks

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