OPERATION: MONIES

Subop: $10K by 31 Dec 2008
SubSubOp: $1k each month
SubSubSubOp: My thoughts and theories
SubSubSubSubOp: Post medium pot hands

Lets crack off with a suckout:

opp's were both massive fish like 50+/5 or so

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG fishz23 ($147.41)
UTG+1 JstPayMyRent ($94.65)
CO fardel386 ($35.29)
BTN Hero ($100.00)
SB belzimilien ($151.11)
BB digsy68 ($102.76)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is BTN
fishz23 calls $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $5, 1 fold, digsy68 calls $4, fishz23 calls $4

Flop: ($15.50, 3 players)
digsy68 checks, fishz23 checks, Hero bets $11, digsy68 calls $11, fishz23 raises to $26, Hero goes all-in $84, digsy68 calls $84, fishz23 goes all-in $116.41, digsy68 goes all-in $2.76

Turn: ($350.67, 3 players)

River: ($350.67, 3 players)

Final Pot: $350.67
fishz23 shows:
digsy68 shows:
Hero shows:

fishz23 wins $50.17 ( lost -$97.24 )
Hero wins $297 ( won +$197 )
digsy68 lost -$102.76

Well I dropped $81 last night. Reason I didnt break evem was bcoz I spewed a buyin with AK. AK seems to be my favourite spew hand, I think a good idea after I have a losing & spewing session is to do hand analysis f some hands from that session. So thats what Ill try to do today, Ive a bunch of hands here to get through.

Ok to start with the spew.

hand 1 - Opp was a v poor player running about 40/6 over small but decent sample.


$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($100.00)
UTG+1 lighningIII ($142.04)
CO du8m0nk3y ($155.81)
BTN manbearpig2k ($100.00)
SB suleyka ($57.00)
BB noplaynogame ($109.21)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is UTG
Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, du8m0nk3y calls $4, 3 folds

Flop: ($9.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $7, du8m0nk3y calls $7

imo this is completely standard. He should drop all his broadways and i dont mind taking down the flop now. I expect him to call with almost all his PP hands 22-JJ. I assume he easily 3 bets QQ+. So he calls!!

Turn: ($23.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $16, du8m0nk3y calls $16

Turn card is a safe card imo overall and gives me a NFD and my overs are good. I think this is where I may of made a mistake vs this type of player, i think i could of c/c turn instead of b/f turn. Im defo behind now on turn imo since i assume he dropped his non pair hands plus theres no flop draws really. Also I think my b/f bet sizing is poor, if you notice I actually overbbet shoved turn whihc could of been avoided had i bet more on turn like $20-$22. This sets up any bluff river nicely by shoving since it doesnt look like a fishy overbet.

River: ($55.50, 2 players)
Hero goes all-in $73, du8m0nk3y calls $73

River isnt a great card but I felt he was holding a hand like 55,66,7x,88,99,TT. I figured I could get some to fold by overbet shoving. Im not a fan of my overbet since i think if i just pot it for $55 has the v same effect and saves me $18 each time.

Also to note that theres probably no hand I wud play this way which really sucks but its not that bad vs bad players.

Opp had TT which is among the very top of his range.

Hand 2 - Opp was a weak player and fairly passive. 40/6 type., not same opp as above.

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
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Stacks:
UTG Mister__Jack ($124.35)
UTG+1 foxyroxlies ($69.77)
CO pkrRockStar ($102.73)
BTN Hero ($100.00)
SB walshy399 ($86.16)
BB finnaa111 ($194.86)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is BTN
3 folds, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, finnaa111 calls $3

Flop: ($8.50, 2 players)
finnaa111 checks, Hero bets $6, finnaa111 calls $6

Sometimes I do check behind of these flops. Reason I did bet is bcoz 1) I think my overs are fairly good since opp has wide calling range esp in BB 2) T is an out too 3) Opp is passive so I can check back turn alot 4) Id be happy taking pot down if he has a lower PP. Point 4 isnt that important since I cud take away the pot on a later street.

Turn: ($20.50, 2 players)
finnaa111 checks, Hero checks

Not a great turn card, not scary tho not likely to hit opp in anyway. I chose not to spew barrel AK here .

River: ($20.50, 2 players)
finnaa111 checks, Hero bets $16, finnaa111 raises to $32, $16 to Hero ($74)?

I think river is a totally std value bet here or if opp bet a decent amount then its an easy call. When he check raises I throw up, while it looks liek an easy call getting $16 to win $68.5 ie. 23%. I really think im beat here a ton bcoz if opp has a low PP, Jx,Qx opp is either gonna c/c or c/f. Opp wud bet river with his Kx + stronger hands, maybe Qx if he is capable. So why wud this passive opp go for a c/r??? Is he bluffing??? Hell no he aint, he is raising the minimium and WANTS a call. So he at least has 2pair,sets or straights, theres no way I can profitably call. but i do call

Opp had JJ. gg

Hand 3 - Another minraised river god dammit . Different opp who was about 30/5. These opp dont need much reads info since they usually play v straightforwardly.

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
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Stacks:
UTG Hero ($107.75)
UTG+1 lighningIII ($72.09)
CO du8m0nk3y ($183.59)
BTN manbearpig2k ($100.00)
SB RotesMoped ($138.95)
BB noplaynogame ($108.38)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is UTG
Hero raises to $4, lighningIII calls $4, 4 folds

imo standard for table quality

Flop: ($9.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $6.50, lighningIII calls $6.50

Dryish board vs passive opp who is unlikely to bluff raise. I bet a slightly smaller than usual bet to may keep a few additional holdings in for a single street. these additional holdings likely have just 2 outs vs us so checking turns are good.

Turn: ($22.50, 2 players)
Hero checks, lighningIII checks

Turn is ok and if figure he is ahead. I opt for some pot control since i dont wanan get raised and i want opp to call my light if it checks thru to river or for him to think his weaker Kx, 9x is best.

River: ($22.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $14, lighningIII raises to $28, $14 to Hero ($83.25)?

J isnt a great card for my hand since i now only beat KT,K8. I do still VB expecting my weakness to be called by Kx and 9x hands. When he raises we shud assume he isnt bluffing raising or VBing weaker hands. I think he will just call with all his marginal Kx,9x type hands which leads us to beleive he raises 2 pair, set or straight for minimium on river. he really isnt likely to raise up the river bcoz 1) he really doesnt have any air in his range 2) While i look weak he still doesnt have air in his range so theres no value is raising crap or Sd type hands. But i do call bcoz im a fish

Opp had KJ. gg

Hand 4 - This is a spot where I made a fairly silly error tyring to mix up my play then not knowing wtf to do after that. I actually lead the flop here for about $6-7 and got called. hadnt a clue wot to do on turn.

i didnt 3bet since he was a fairly tight player who stole little so i decided to keep pot small OOP and call. i think he fires flop 100% if checked to therefore making a c/c>>>>>>leads or c/r. There are very little turn scare cards for him to double barrel so if he fires again then i can safely fold.

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
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Stacks:
UTG TY4URMONIEZ ($230.10)
UTG+1 tomikk37 ($102.57)
CO galoucura_br ($128.83)
BTN MoroP ($178.13)
SB Hero ($101.50)
BB Schmunzler80 ($124.73)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is SB
3 folds, MoroP raises to $4, Hero calls $3.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($9, 2 players)
Hero ($97.5)?

Hand 1: definitively do not 2nd barril on TURN. He's not folding and not raising, so c/c is much better. As played RIVER should be c/f. With his stats you're not getting him to fold 55 or 66.
Hand 2: Boy, I also hate those min raises on RIVER! I also had one yesterday. However, you are beat here, I should (even if I didn't yesterday either ) find a fold vs this guy.
Hand 3: idem.
Hand 4: Here I c/c FLOP and villain will most likely check TURN behind (if he 2 barrils a high card then I fold, if he fires on a low card then I might fold also) and I'll fire 1/2 bet on RIVER if he likes to bet RIVER IP or checks if he's passive.

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

hand 1 - Opp was a v poor player running about 40/6 over small but decent sample.


$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($100.00)
UTG+1 lighningIII ($142.04)
CO du8m0nk3y ($155.81)
BTN manbearpig2k ($100.00)
SB suleyka ($57.00)
BB noplaynogame ($109.21)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is UTG
Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, du8m0nk3y calls $4, 3 folds

Flop: ($9.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $7, du8m0nk3y calls $7

imo this is completely standard. He should drop all his broadways and i dont mind taking down the flop now. I expect him to call with almost all his PP hands 22-JJ. I assume he easily 3 bets QQ+. So he calls!!

Turn: ($23.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $16, du8m0nk3y calls $16

Turn card is a safe card imo overall and gives me a NFD and my overs are good. I think this is where I may of made a mistake vs this type of player, i think i could of c/c turn instead of b/f turn. Im defo behind now on turn imo since i assume he dropped his non pair hands plus theres no flop draws really. Also I think my b/f bet sizing is poor, if you notice I actually overbbet shoved turn whihc could of been avoided had i bet more on turn like $20-$22. This sets up any bluff river nicely by shoving since it doesnt look like a fishy overbet.

River: ($55.50, 2 players)
Hero goes all-in $73, du8m0nk3y calls $73

River isnt a great card but I felt he was holding a hand like 55,66,7x,88,99,TT. I figured I could get some to fold by overbet shoving. Im not a fan of my overbet since i think if i just pot it for $55 has the v same effect and saves me $18 each time.

Also to note that theres probably no hand I wud play this way which really sucks but its not that bad vs bad players.

Opp had TT which is among the very top of his range.

Just to add comment on this hand. I was talking with spenda about it and im convinced turn is a c/c spot. Also jimmy confirms, thx for the input.

Betting sucks bcoz we are unlikely to fold out any better hands. c/c is good since 1) we do have a ton of outs, any flush card, A & K 2) Opp is passive and will check back alot 3) Opp is passive and may just bet a smallish amount. We discussed that a c/r woudl be a good play if opp had a high AF since he will be betting here alot.

Originally Posted by jimmy44

Hand 2: Boy, I also hate those min raises on RIVER! I also had one yesterday. However, you are beat here, I should (even if I didn't yesterday either ) find a fold vs this guy.
Hand 3: idem.

Both river raises ARE folds, it just sucks.

btw ''idem''??? meaning.

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

Hand 4 - This is a spot where I made a fairly silly error tyring to mix up my play then not knowing wtf to do after that. I actually lead the flop here for about $6-7 and got called. hadnt a clue wot to do on turn.

i didnt 3bet since he was a fairly tight player who stole little so i decided to keep pot small OOP and call. i think he fires flop 100% if checked to therefore making a c/c>>>>>>leads or c/r. There are very little turn scare cards for him to double barrel so if he fires again then i can safely fold.

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG TY4URMONIEZ ($230.10)
UTG+1 tomikk37 ($102.57)
CO galoucura_br ($128.83)
BTN MoroP ($178.13)
SB Hero ($101.50)
BB Schmunzler80 ($124.73)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is SB
3 folds, MoroP raises to $4, Hero calls $3.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($9, 2 players)
Hero ($97.5)?

Also discussed with spenda this hand too.

C/c is the best line vs this opp. then c/f turn, c/f river with some c/c rivers mixed in depending on situation.

But also what if opp wasnt that nitty, if he was say a 20/15 and i had a hand i didnt wanna 3bet like say 66. I call flop is same K53. I woudl be much better to instead c/r flop with my 66. Reason being that if i just c/c, whats my range?? 55,33,KQ,66-88. So if he is half decent he should be aware of my range and fire alot of second barrels therefore it is much more prudent to c/r this flop where he will c/b 100% instead of maybe getting blown off your hand on turn.

Change of topic slightly, dealing with nits UTG.

Say instead of TT we have AK or AA on BTN vs UTG, what should we do?? I think now theres a very good theory that flatting is better, ';flatting AA is like flopping bottom set''. First off opp isnt gonna call us with AJ and AQ so raising AK and AA is a waste. we want 99&TT is stay in also which may fold also to a 3bet. If a flop comes Kxx then we can get at least 2 streets of value form KQ,AQ,AJ or is flop is all low etc. Now if we apply this to my HH above then if we flat AK or AA then we can get alot of value from a nits range since our c/r range seems so FoS since we can only have 33 and 55 since we c/c KQ and 3bet AK pre.

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

Originally Posted by jimmy44

Hand 2: Boy, I also hate those min raises on RIVER! I also had one yesterday. However, you are beat here, I should (even if I didn't yesterday either ) find a fold vs this guy.
Hand 3: idem.

Both river raises ARE folds, it just sucks.

btw ''idem''??? meaning.

I just did a mistake and put a French abreviation for "the same"

Regarding the river min-raises, even though we may not have the odds to call (even if they are great odds), do we want opps to know we'll fold to a min-raise on the river without the nuts?

Originally Posted by bjsaust

Regarding the river min-raises, even though we may not have the odds to call (even if they are great odds), do we want opps to know we'll fold to a min-raise on the river without the nuts?

Will most ops even notice this or is this a thinly veiled crying call?

Once they might not, but a couple times in a session and they'll start picking up.

Originally Posted by bjsaust

Regarding the river min-raises, even though we may not have the odds to call (even if they are great odds), do we want opps to know we'll fold to a min-raise on the river without the nuts?

min c/r almost always tend to not be a bluff (not always the nutz but not a bluff) since it just isnt a good bluff bet size since they would want a fold. There really isnt any meta game aspect since 1) Its a donk player doing it 2) Donk wont really know how to adjust 3) Ppl just arent paying attention anyway 4) Regs wont min c/r bluff rivers anyway like ever 5) Ppl very rarely c/r bluff rivers either.

btw Bigred I dont think its really a crying call. Its a call where you cant resist a gamble knowing your beat. They are easy folds. But I am station.

Hand 5 - Opp was about 40/6. He had been calling me alot preflop OOP in blinds and i was crushing him postflop till he won a 20bb pot as few hands ago. Now he has finally 3bet me preflop.

Advice on my line. Im not sure exactly what his 3bet means but I do have a great hand for the situation and its ez preflo call.

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Kramer18M ($100.45)
UTG+1 PhIPaA ($117.43)
CO Hero ($114.24)
BTN smigolicious ($100.00)
SB windsu111 ($123.49)
BB U3bet_I_Fold ($103.58)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is CO
2 folds, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, windsu111 raises to $7, 1 fold, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($15, 2 players)
windsu111 bets $15, Hero calls $15

I think this line is pretty much super standard with almost all my range that should continue in the hand. Opp had bet pot here which seemed to be his standard move. He is passive when not having initiative but seems to bet pot when he can.

Turn: ($45, 2 players)
windsu111 bets $22, Hero calls $22

Now it gets tricky. im not sure exactly of his line now. It seems either vulnerable or a ''i dont want you to fold bet''. I dont turn my hand into a bluff by raising since he wont fold any pairs. In hindsight I think this is a fold since i shouldnt expect him to continue betting with less than TP.

River: ($89, 2 players)
windsu111 checks, Hero checks

I dnt think I could bet river here and not get called light by QQ+ I got my showdown tho it cost me an extra $22. Opp had QQ.gg

opp ran 25/21. we had some hands vs each other. i think he can squeeze pre when i iso a weak player. ive 4bet shoved him UTG too. v aggro oplayer imo who folds 59% to 3bets over about 1K hands. btw this is the first time he has called my 3bet.

On flop is was going for a c/r since I dont put too many draws in his range esp diamonds.


$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG DOOMSWiTCHON ($298.46)
CO kms81 ($110.64)
BTN Locustus111 ($76.57)
SB Hero ($108.38)
BB kleber2007 ($106.93)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 5 players) Hero is SB
DOOMSWiTCHON raises to $3, 1 fold, Locustus111 calls $3, Hero raises to $15, 1 fold, DOOMSWiTCHON calls $12, Locustus111 folds

Flop: ($34, 2 players)
Hero checks, DOOMSWiTCHON checks

Turn: ($34, 2 players)
Hero bets $20, DOOMSWiTCHON calls $20

River: ($74, 2 players)
Hero bets $35, DOOMSWiTCHON goes all-in $263.46, Hero goes all-in $38.38

I dunno what to make on turn, its a slightly weird spot for him to bluff now. I still call it off but it sucks.

Opp had JdTd. gg

Congrats on finishing the old operation, and good luck on the new one!

Thx griffey, I hope to aim for ''monies''

That AJ hand...

If you were squeezing with air, would you EVER c/r this flop? I doubt you would...?

Balance your ranges in this spot, and bet this flop. He's peeling a bet light anyhow, because he expects you to bet it. He might even call two streets with Qx not believing you and your barrels.

Where as he'd likely check through Qx in this spot.

Originally Posted by griffey24

That AJ hand...

If you were squeezing with air, would you EVER c/r this flop? I doubt you would...?

Balance your ranges in this spot, and bet this flop. He's peeling a bet light anyhow, because he expects you to bet it. He might even call two streets with Qx not believing you and your barrels.

Where as he'd likely check through Qx in this spot.

Thx for the input Griffey,

If I squeezed with crap then yes a bet/fold is always what I wud do. So if i bet here we are betting flop and turn but we are played bet/fold poker??

Would you ever c/r in this spot with this flop with any holdings or is it unnecessary. Interesting point Griff that if my play looks like a squeeze then I should bet my strong hands alot.

good luck yo! race ya anyway, I'm tortoise slow at the moment...
I'll look at your hands later

Opp was like a 12/2 over small sample of hands. Imo I probably should just call his flop lead instead of raising, im going through a very weird time at the tables. Im saying to myself this guy could have a set here BUT im gonna raise for the fucking craic of it. seriously WTF is wrong with me???

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ChrisofHeart ($126.86)
UTG+1 MrBrightEyes ($108.72)
CO DOOMSWiTCHON ($108.71)
BTN lorrainejt ($211.92)
SB rama96abc ($176.83)
BB Hero ($104.00)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is BB
ChrisofHeart calls $1, MrBrightEyes calls $1, 1 fold, lorrainejt raises to $2, 1 fold, Hero calls $1, ChrisofHeart calls $1, MrBrightEyes calls $1

Lorraine is a massive fish btw and others are v unlikely to limp/reraise.

Flop: ($8.50, 4 players)
Hero checks, ChrisofHeart bets $5, 2 folds, Hero raises to $18, ChrisofHeart calls $13

since this guy leads I put him on Qx, 55,77, maybe some flushes.

Turn: ($44.50, 2 players)
Hero checks, ChrisofHeart bets $55, Hero goes all-in $84, ChrisofHeart calls $29

On this turn card my alarm bells should be going off ( and they were, i was just not listening). Opp overbets the pot which is retarded anyway and makes very little sense so I gues i tilt shoved when I feel that folding is the correct move here.

River: ($212.50, 2 players)

Final Pot: $212.50
ChrisofHeart shows:
Hero shows:

ChrisofHeart wins $209.50 ( won +$105.50 )
lorrainejt lost -$2.00
Hero lost -$104.00
MrBrightEyes lost -$2.00

Im goign through a phase where its just the fish who are crushing me so its time to respect their bets.

btw I had another losing night last night so Ill post the major hands from them sessions.



Another fairly difficult hand.


$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
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Stacks:
UTG oullewapper ($73.07)
UTG+1 brac79 ($31.13)
CO Hero ($120.89)
BTN My4a4oc ($172.90)
SB hmkl917 ($142.64)
BB Mathias8879 ($100.20)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is CO
2 folds, Hero raises to $4, My4a4oc calls $4, hmkl917 calls $3.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($13, 3 players)
hmkl917 bets $4, Hero raises to $13, My4a4oc calls $13, hmkl917 calls $9

the guy who lead is a fish, guy who called ran about 20/15 or so. the caller is who im worried about, imo theres a high chance of a set but also some Qx, draws too.

Turn: ($52, 3 players)
hmkl917 checks, Hero bets $31, My4a4oc calls $31, hmkl917 folds

ok so fish checks, I think I can bet/fold here vs the caller and straight up VB vs fish. The caller calls AGAIN. I thought about this hard.

River: ($114, 2 players)
Hero goes all-in $72.89, My4a4oc calls $72.89

I came to the conclusion that a set wud of put in a raise at some stage so i put him on Qx, some Qx have flush suits and could well play passively. Qx that just cry call the whole way therefore I shoved for value imo. If i check he is very unlikelu to bet. my bets played hand all night, when i can think about it i win pots

Final Pot: $259.78
My4a4oc shows:
Hero shows:

Hero wins $256.28 ( won +$135.39 )
My4a4oc lost -$120.89
hmkl917 lost -$17.00

Another hand, I was up a buyin b4 this hand then I lost the plot lol. Opp was about 60/8 or so over small but ok sample like 200 hands.

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Wasco_6 ($96.58)
UTG+1 kuken358 ($101.00)
CO blubor333 ($189.00)
BTN Hero ($100.00)
SB Nybo1234 ($187.45)
BB moneylibero ($105.03)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is BTN
3 folds, Hero raises to $4, Nybo1234 calls $3.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($9, 2 players)
Nybo1234 checks, Hero bets $7, Nybo1234 calls $7

Turn: ($23, 2 players)
Nybo1234 bets $14, Hero raises to $36, Nybo1234 goes all-in $162.45, Hero goes all-in $53

Turn is crucial, I think calling is good here and keeps his weak hands in play tho i guess he is fishy enough to call off weak hands so raising is fine. I gotta fold to his shove tho so since im folding to his shoves i beleive that calling turn and river is way better.

River: ($288.45, 2 players)

Final Pot: $288.45
Nybo1234 shows:
Hero shows:

Nybo1234 wins $284.95 ( won +$97.50 )
Hero lost -$100.00

Ok now to prove that i actually do win pots. Opp is a semi-donk if i remember. He minraised me the hand before that too.

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG SUPER_KINGLOL ($100.00)
UTG+1 Sai_pra_Lah ($100.00)
CO Hero ($100.00)
BTN LOL_PANIC ($281.96)
SB PokerRalph2 ($117.43)
BB milchtaxiiii ($177.23)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is CO
2 folds, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, PokerRalph2 raises to $8, 1 fold, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($17, 2 players)
PokerRalph2 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($17, 2 players)
PokerRalph2 bets $9, Hero raises to $27, PokerRalph2 raises to $45, Hero goes all-in $65, PokerRalph2 calls $47

River: ($201, 2 players)

Final Pot: $201
PokerRalph2 shows:
Hero shows:

Hero wins $197.50 ( won +$97.50 )
PokerRalph2 lost -$100.00

AA hand: I think here AF is very important. Can he do this with AKhh? or only with a set?
Indeed, I fell that when these high VPIP highs become aggro they have a hand! I think I call here however as we're getting roughly 2-1 pot odds on turn.

Good luck with the op dude.

I'd offer feedback on the hands but it's clear I understand nothing past $10NL these days...

Thx for good wishes guys.

Jimmy I think that if i raise turn then i should be calling off since it turns AA into a bluff almost. So i think calling turn is a better line. I dont have great reads here but I though opp could of hit T9 most times. His line with a set is very strange. I think call turn and most rivers is good.

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

Thx for the input Griffey,

If I squeezed with crap then yes a bet/fold is always what I wud do. So if i bet here we are betting flop and turn but we are played bet/fold poker??

Would you ever c/r in this spot with this flop with any holdings or is it unnecessary. Interesting point Griff that if my play looks like a squeeze then I should bet my strong hands alot.

I'm not really sure what I'd do with a raise in this spot. I mean, if your plan was to c/r then you don't mind getting it in, so b/c could be ok.

Depends on reads I suppose. Some players like min-raising A high flops with bluffs and crap in 3-bet pots... so hard to say.

I probably wouldn't c/r much here with air. Its a much more expensive bluff. Maybe I'd c/r like KJd's or something like that, but I'd probably just b/c with those.

Appreciate feebback griffey thx alot.

Up about $180 over the weekend, v frustrating day yday. couldnt hit a flop to sav emy life. Sometimes you just have them days where you feel you suck so bad but meh you dont, cards dont come sometimes. I stayed above water by +$50 yday tho.

hand 1;

Hows my play here vs a looseish 21/20 over small sample. Is my play totally standard, c/f on turn is correct right?

Ive made this play a few times with mostly success however ive a few questions;
1 - Hows my bet sizing?
2 - Vs good opp's I should also be adding in my v strong hands to balance right instead of just calling on flop to keep bluffs in.
3 - Giving up on turn is good
4 - How often do ppl get shoved on flop? A v good Hand reader coudl shove all his range to exploit me tho this type of villian is v rare.

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG MoneyPrintin ($109.53)
UTG+1 MrAppleforce ($92.44)
CO SpiderRocket ($116.56)
BTN Bazooka005 ($263.50)
SB Hero ($103.20)
BB frize86 ($133.94)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is SB
4 folds, Hero raises to $3, frize86 calls $2

Flop: ($6, 2 players)
Hero bets $4, frize86 raises to $8, Hero raises to $26, frize86 calls $18

Turn: ($58, 2 players)
Hero checks, frize86 goes all-in $104.94, Hero folds

Final Pot: $162.94

frize86 wins $160.04 ( won +$26.10 )
Hero lost -$29.00


Hand 2; Different aggro opp, imo my hand is strong than what i think he believes I have so imo he is trying to push me off it.

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG RickyBobby07 ($118.99)
UTG+1 rodickno ($60.08)
CO TwixMixRemix ($101.50)
BTN Hero ($108.68)
SB out_fitz ($164.94)
BB captntappa ($208.18)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is BTN
1 fold, rodickno raises to $2, 1 fold, Hero calls $2, 2 folds

Flop: ($5.50, 2 players)
rodickno bets $5, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($15.50, 2 players)
rodickno bets $9, Hero calls $9

River: ($33.50, 2 players)
rodickno goes all-in $44.08, Hero calls $44.08

Final Pot: $121.66
rodickno shows:
Hero shows:

Hero wins $118.16 ( won +$58.08 )
rodickno lost -$60.08

Hand 3: opp wasnt great but wasnt terribad either. Def is a losing player, i had been c/b'ing him out of pots plus he folded a few hands b4 to a 2 barrel. I dont think he is capable of making creative plays. Maybe im been results oriented but the J helps he range a ton and i think a check back on turn and call/make river bet is good.

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Bicharal ($101.00)
UTG+1 Debazer ($111.96)
CO Hero ($223.38)
BTN d01phin ($100.00)
SB Loett ($104.24)
BB Jelleh ($138.33)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is CO
2 folds, Hero raises to $4, 2 folds, Jelleh calls $3

Flop: ($8.50, 2 players)
Jelleh checks, Hero bets $6, Jelleh calls $6

Turn: ($20.50, 2 players)
Jelleh checks, Hero bets $14, Jelleh raises to $28, Hero folds

Final Pot: $62.50

Jelleh wins $60.08 ( won +$22.08 )
Hero lost -$24.00


Hand 4; Opp was slighly aggro stats like 22/20 so he should be 3betting me with a wideish range so when he calls i give him low PPs, SC and suited broadways.

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Kingsflan ($103.58)
CO Hero ($130.51)
BTN LOL_PANIC ($217.63)
SB ziejoker ($75.17)
BB dysfuncti0n ($196.61)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 5 players) Hero is CO
1 fold, Hero raises to $4, LOL_PANIC calls $4, 2 folds

Flop: ($9.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $7, LOL_PANIC calls $7

He will float me with a large part of his rnage.

Turn: ($23.50, 2 players)
Hero checks, LOL_PANIC checks

i check for some pot control but mostly to induce a bet, i wud c/c here instead of c/r'ing.

River: ($23.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $17, LOL_PANIC calls $17

i go value on river

Final Pot: $57.50
LOL_PANIC shows:
Hero shows:

Hero wins $55.50 ( won +$27.50 )
LOL_PANIC lost -$28.00

Hand 5; Opp is a donk who i find v hard to play against. I plan to c/c river since he bluffs 2/3 pots alot on river.

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG johnnolan555 ($279.91)
UTG+1 fullank ($72.03)
CO HH_The_Plane ($114.40)
BTN der_rainer ($79.08)
SB Hero ($100.00)
BB MoneyPrintin ($132.64)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is SB
johnnolan555 calls $1, fullank calls $1, 1 fold, der_rainer calls $1, Hero calls $0.50, MoneyPrintin checks

Flop: ($5, 5 players)
Hero bets $4, 1 fold, johnnolan555 calls $4, 2 folds

Turn: ($13, 2 players)
Hero bets $9, johnnolan555 calls $9

River: ($31, 2 players)
Hero checks, johnnolan555 bets $21, Hero calls $21

Final Pot: $73
johnnolan555 shows:
Hero shows:

Hero wins $70 ( won +$35 )
der_rainer lost -$1.00
MoneyPrintin lost -$1.00
johnnolan555 lost -$35.00
fullank lost -$1.00

hand 6; opp is a tag, help me with bet sizing. cud i get mor eon river??

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG KIK_Kunde ($134.50)
UTG+1 Hero ($112.45)
CO rama96abc ($176.97)
BTN tominator118 ($112.81)
SB doc_knaeuer ($98.54)
BB lilo1960 ($100.54)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1
1 fold, Hero raises to $4, rama96abc raises to $12, 3 folds, Hero calls $8

Flop: ($25.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $10, rama96abc raises to $30, Hero calls $20

Turn: ($85.50, 2 players)
Hero checks, rama96abc checks

River: ($85.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $33, rama96abc calls $33

Final Pot: $151.50
rama96abc shows:
Hero shows:

Hero wins $148.50 ( won +$73.50 )
rama96abc lost -$75.00


Hand 7; Love to get thought on this hand particular. Opp has some agrro stats like 22/2o so his range is weakjer than normal since he shud be 3betting a ton of his holdings.


$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG agftt ($34.01)
UTG+1 elmatador03 ($179.75)
CO Hero ($101.53)
BTN Sai_pra_Lah ($207.86)
SB dreadLez ($114.95)
BB Gary2410 ($100.00)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is CO
2 folds, Hero raises to $4, Sai_pra_Lah calls $4, 2 folds

Flop: ($9.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $7, Sai_pra_Lah calls $7

Turn: ($23.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $16, Sai_pra_Lah calls $16

River: ($55.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $42, Sai_pra_Lah goes all-in $180.86, Hero folds

Final Pot: $278.36

Sai_pra_Lah wins $274.86 ( won +$67 )
Hero lost -$69.00


Appreciate all comments, sry for ton of hands!!

1: Raise to 4 PF since if you get called you'll be OOP. I think the rest is fine.

2. Against an aggro opp I play the same.

3. Whilst a fold is probably good here, you know how I feel about folding good hands to min-raises .

4. Board isnt too drawy, I dont mind the pot control. If he'd bet I'd call turn and c/c most rivers.

5. With read this looks good and what I'd do.

6. Feels kinda thin, am I wrong? I think if you want to bet that 1/2 pot gets called as often.

7. Villain needs to be able to fold a K here. I'm more likely to check turn and hope to either see a free card, or get good odds to continue.

Originally Posted by bjsaust

1: Raise to 4 PF since if you get called you'll be OOP. I think the rest is fine.

raising $3 imo is just as good imo, ppl call with same range of hands and c/b's are cheaper and v good value. I used to make it $4 and since the change ive found very little difference in the action i get. Sure we can make it $4 since we are OOP and charge the guy to call but they call anyway for $4 or $3 so im making the pot smaller OOP which has its merits. 4bet smaller, call 3bets lighter and for better price, c/b small, pot smaller oop.

2. Against an aggro opp I play the same.

3. Whilst a fold is probably good here, you know how I feel about folding good hands to min-raises .

lol, i felt dirty but its fine imo

4. Board isnt too drawy, I dont mind the pot control. If he'd bet I'd call turn and c/c most rivers.

5. With read this looks good and what I'd do.

6. Feels kinda thin, am I wrong? I think if you want to bet that 1/2 pot gets called as often.

imo this isnt a flop i wanna c/r allin since it folds out a ton of his range. when i lead 1/3 ill get bluff raised a ton so then i call. i hope he fires turn again since i look so weak. on river i fgure he has like AQ or AK alot so i bet an amount he can call with that. i think my bet either has to be about $46 or $78.

7. Villain needs to be able to fold a K here. I'm more likely to check turn and hope to either see a free card, or get good odds to continue.

checking turn is the std line otherwise imo we have to 3 barrel

Hand 6: Yup pop it to $46 he will call with 88-JJ and AK. He doesn't have AQ on that flop.

Hand 7: I like it!

Originally Posted by jimmy44

Hand 6: Yup pop it to $46 he will call with 88-JJ and AK. He doesn't have AQ on that flop.

Hand 7: I like it!

Oops on hand 6; AQ isnt in his range.

Thx for thoughts on hand 7, it hurts when it doesnt work and i get resulkts orientated.

thx guys for comments

Why is 7 good?

Originally Posted by bjsaust

Why is 7 good?

Well its not standard but if your not gonna c/f turn then 3 barreling is good.

Its basically about hand ranges. what hand range can he withstand a 3 barrel with that actually plays the way he played all streets.

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

Originally Posted by bjsaust

Why is 7 good?

Well its not standard but if your not gonna c/f turn then 3 barreling is good.

Its basically about hand ranges. what hand range can he withstand a 3 barrel with that actually plays the way he played all streets.

This and that an aggro player will raise somewhere with a set/TP.
However, we cannot try this against a 30/15 player as 6max they'll can you thin (i.e. QQ/JJ/TT or even K3). The same applies against a player with whom you have history against and he knows you cal 3barril bluff.

Theres no read about his postflop aggression, just his preflop aggression. Theres also no mention about heros image at the table. If he's been playing aggressive then a good player will take this line a lot.

I still ask, what range of cards call flop and turn but fold to river? TJ is about the only hand I can think of, and that would be bad to call turn with. So against his range, what % of his hands does he fold to the 3 barrel?

meh i dont like that hand anymore, dont think theres too many holdings stil around.

anyway got railed by spenda and jyms and bombed down $435. cards wudnt hold up or either hit flops. down to say $1800, bad times.

Originally Posted by DA GOAT

Opp has some agrro stats like 22/2o so his range is weakjer than normal since he shud be 3betting a ton of his holdings. [/b]

This means (most of the time) that villain is semiLAG but competent.

Originally Posted by bjsaust

I still ask, what range of cards call flop and turn but fold to river? TJ is about the only hand I can think of, and that would be bad to call turn with. So against his range, what % of his hands does he fold to the 3 barrel?

QQ-TT, low K and maybe KJ/KQ (but this depends on Hero's latest aggression).
I could see this villain also call TURN with A8 and also 66-77, 67.

I think that range is way too wide, but even so, someone who'll call two barrels with that range will call 3 (except 67, missed that one). You're giving a relative unknown who you think will call 2 streets with a mediocre hand the ability to lay it down to a 3rd. That just seems unlikely if he's continued with those kinds of hands so far.

Originally Posted by bjsaust

I think that range is way too wide, but even so, someone who'll call two barrels with that range will call 3 (except 67, missed that one). You're giving a relative unknown who you think will call 2 streets with a mediocre hand the ability to lay it down to a 3rd. That just seems unlikely if he's continued with those kinds of hands so far.

I just checked now, and indeed, something doesn't add up. If villain is competent he will not call a 2barril with something like A8o, however QQ-TT he might. He might (and he might not also) fold river with KQ/KJ. With our bet we need to have a fold from villain around 43%.

Let's put villain on range on RIVER: 66-QQ,67,89,JT,KT+. That's about 7*6 + 16 + 16 + 16 + 16*3 = 138 combinations. Of which he will fold: 67,JT,66,77,TT-QQ,KT which represnts 16 + 16 + 6 + 6 + 6*3 + 16 = 78 combinations. Which is 58% of hands he folds.
Even if you remove JJ-QQ it's 48% hands he folds.
We could also remove 89 as he might raise 2 pairs IP on FLOP, but these would represent the times he would push/bluff.

Anyway, it was fun doing these calcs
Of course this would need to be reviewed depending on villain's aggression on FLOP and RIVER.

I havent updated in awhile. havent gotten a ton of hands in but i dropped over 4 buyins in a single session and roll is down to $1800 but ive $1600 for investing whihc im adding to my roll.

right now im focusing on HU actually and im loving it so far. im just up a buyin after 2.5K hands. i just love the dynamic and feel ive def got an edge in the 50nl games. im also gonna get some coaching on HU very soon and am looking forward to it.

ill still be playing 6max to depending on wot i want to play but HU is giving me great options when its taking too long on waiting lists orr when tbls arent great/given crap seats etc.

rolls at $3.45K now.

Lost $25 last night playing HU. had a ton of coolers but meh thankfully I also won a few big pots to counter. Was down $100 after first session then I think i was up about $150-$200 mark then BOOM

#1 played 2 sessions with this donk. simple donk. 2nd session he turned super aggro since i crushed him. this was first session tho.

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
2 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
BTN Hero ($51.99)
BB Emirb ($122.70)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 2 players) Hero is BTN
Hero raises to $1.75, Emirb raises to $5.50, Hero calls $3.75

Flop: ($11, 2 players)
Emirb checks, Hero bets $7, Emirb calls $7

Turn: ($25, 2 players)
Emirb checks, Hero checks

River: ($25, 2 players)
Emirb bets $6.25, Hero raises to $39.49, Emirb calls $33.24

Final Pot: $103.98
Hero shows:
Emirb shows:

Hero wins $102.98 ( won +$50.99 )
Emirb lost -$51.99

#2 2nd sesh with this guy now. 3bet may be abit to much.

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
2 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
BTN Emirb ($86.55)
BB Hero ($53.20)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 2 players) Hero is BB
Emirb raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $8.50, Emirb calls $6

Flop: ($17, 2 players)
Hero bets $9, Emirb raises to $78.05, Hero calls $35.70

Turn: ($139.75, 2 players)

River: ($139.75, 2 players)

Final Pot: $139.75
Hero shows:
Emirb shows:

Emirb wins $138.75 ( won +$52.20 )
Hero lost -$53.20

#3 Opp was okish. Who bets turn here instead of c/r.

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
2 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
BTN cash_fun ($52.08)
BB Hero ($47.75)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 2 players) Hero is BB
cash_fun raises to $1.75, Hero raises to $5.50, cash_fun calls $3.75

Flop: ($11, 2 players)
Hero bets $6.50, cash_fun calls $6.50

Turn: ($24, 2 players)
Hero checks, cash_fun bets $12, Hero raises to $35.75, cash_fun calls $23.75

River: ($95.50, 2 players)

Final Pot: $95.50
Hero shows:
cash_fun shows:

Hero wins $94.50 ( won +$46.75 )
cash_fun lost -$47.75

#4 think this guy was opening a ton so i picked a decent crappy hand.

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
2 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
BTN 99jkpg ($44.14)
BB Hero ($54.59)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 2 players) Hero is BB
99jkpg raises to $2.25, Hero raises to $7.50, 99jkpg calls $5.25

Flop: ($15, 2 players)
Hero bets $9, 99jkpg calls $9

Turn: ($33, 2 players)
Hero bets $38.09, 99jkpg calls $27.64

River: ($98.73, 2 players)

Final Pot: $98.73
Hero shows:
99jkpg shows:

Hero wins $97.73 ( won +$43.14 )
99jkpg lost -$44.14

#5 im sick of AQ doing this 2 me

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
2 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
BTN Emirb ($71.48)
BB Hero ($54.88)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 2 players) Hero is BB
Emirb raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $8.50, Emirb calls $6

Flop: ($17, 2 players)
Hero bets $9, Emirb raises to $18, Hero raises to $46.38, Emirb calls $28.38

Turn: ($109.76, 2 players)

River: ($109.76, 2 players)

Final Pot: $109.76
Hero shows:
Emirb shows:

Emirb wins $108.76 ( won +$53.88 )
Hero lost -$54.88

#6 lol spenda called this ''wtf''. I read opp was so full of shit here. maybe a call wud be better but if he had any crap pair then he pays off for a small amount more.

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
2 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
BTN LincolnAA86 ($53.91)
BB Hero ($49.53)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 2 players) Hero is BB
LincolnAA86 raises to $1.75, Hero raises to $5.50, LincolnAA86 calls $3.75

Flop: ($11, 2 players)
Hero checks, LincolnAA86 checks

Turn: ($11, 2 players)
Hero checks, LincolnAA86 checks

River: ($11, 2 players)
Hero bets $7.50, LincolnAA86 raises to $30, Hero raises to $44.03, LincolnAA86 folds

Final Pot: $85.03

Hero wins $84.03 ( won +$34.50 )
LincolnAA86 lost -$35.50

#7 wanted it allin on floppy, proceeded to get screwed

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
2 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
BTN Hero ($49.07)
BB Scholof ($43.23)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 2 players) Hero is BTN
Hero raises to $1.75, Scholof calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.50, 2 players)
Scholof checks, Hero bets $2.50, Scholof raises to $5, Hero raises to $18.50, Scholof calls $13.50

Turn: ($40.50, 2 players)
Scholof bets $22.98, Hero folds

Final Pot: $63.48

Scholof wins $62.48 ( won +$19.25 )
Hero lost -$20.25

#8 amazing gayness once again

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
2 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
BTN Hero ($85.67)
BB LincolnAA86 ($59.33)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 2 players) Hero is BTN
Hero raises to $1.75, LincolnAA86 calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.50, 2 players)
LincolnAA86 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($3.50, 2 players)
LincolnAA86 bets $3.50, Hero raises to $14, LincolnAA86 calls $10.50

River: ($31.50, 2 players)
LincolnAA86 bets $31.50, Hero folds

Final Pot: $63

LincolnAA86 wins $62 ( won +$14.75 )
Hero lost -$15.75

#9 std?

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
2 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
BTN Babyafce1026 ($30.35)
BB Hero ($55.16)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 2 players) Hero is BB
Babyafce1026 raises to $1.75, Hero calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.50, 2 players)
Hero checks, Babyafce1026 checks

Turn: ($3.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $2.50, Babyafce1026 raises to $5, Hero calls $2.50

River: ($13.50, 2 players)
Hero checks, Babyafce1026 bets $6.75, Hero calls $6.75

Final Pot: $27
Hero shows:
Babyafce1026 shows:

Babyafce1026 wins $26 ( won +$12.50 )
Hero lost -$13.50

#10 bah

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
2 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
BTN Hero ($52.28)
BB LincolnAA86 ($69.76)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 2 players) Hero is BTN
Hero raises to $1.75, LincolnAA86 calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.50, 2 players)
LincolnAA86 bets $3.50, Hero raises to $14, LincolnAA86 raises to $68.01, Hero calls $36.53

Turn: ($122.04, 2 players)

River: ($122.04, 2 players)

Final Pot: $122.04
Hero shows:
LincolnAA86 shows:

LincolnAA86 wins $121.04 ( won +$51.28 )
Hero lost -$52.28

things are going well, ive not posted here much sadly since ive just been trying to grind and review mine and otheres HHs.

Im grinding 6max on everest and its fairly ez so im 6 tbling there. softwares slower than other sites and the play is generally very bad so i neednt focus too much on regs since the are god awful too. def a huge change from 100nl on prima which is nit world, playing nits is so boring and annoying im not gonna like it when i start going against loads of them when i move up.

BR:: not sure but im well covered at like $4K+

i see you've been playing some HU! how many hands have you played? are you going to keep playing HU on everest while grinding? how beneficial do you think heads up play has been to your 6max game? i've played only a couple thousand hands and mostly i've found it's like playing a different game lol.

Originally Posted by Vi-Zer0Skill

i see you've been playing some HU! how many hands have you played? are you going to keep playing HU on everest while grinding? how beneficial do you think heads up play has been to your 6max game? i've played only a couple thousand hands and mostly i've found it's like playing a different game lol.

i can with total confidence that HU will make you a much better player, dunno if i mentioned it above but i also got a coaching session from isf too just as a started playing HU.

Ive not played a super ton of HU hands but i prob wont be playing any HU on everest since the software for it is fucking ridiculiously bad/slow tho players are soft. also isf mentioned in HU forum that playing HU below 200nl is not good since rake dominates big time!!!

imo its really not THAT different but it really does improve your soul reading skillz. anway ill continue grinding 100nl on evp since it seems v soft at the moment.

Played 515 hands last night for a whopping $2 Went down 1.5 buyin in first few hands 89s>AA>my QQ in 3bet pot and allin on flop and lost some hands vs shorties. Grinded back up to +a buyin but ran so so cold and dropped back, i pulled the plug on my session since i noticed how horrible i started playing and just had zero cards. meh just one of them times so i pulled the plug and reviewed HHs for an hour after.

back from rome now.

played last night and won a buyin at 100nl. actually played like 24/19 for 2 hours which is a big difference than my usual nit crap. i think something has clicked and im not afraid to go with my reads and mix things up.

BR about 4k exactly. If i feel confident when i hit 5k i may mix in some 200n tbls.

Opp was 25/25. 3bets 14% overall so more in blinds imo. so he seemed aggro to me tho ive not history im aware of.

I choose to call preflop IP but when i do this im not playing fit or fold poker and ill take some risk playing a bit more creative.

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Lexxus ($128.00)
UTG+1 DerickDevil ($102.30)
CO pokerude ($159.55)
BTN Hero ($98.50)
SB Orlis7 ($102.00)
BB biscuiT- ($100.00)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is BTN
3 folds, Hero raises to $3.50, Orlis7 raises to $11.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $8

Flop: ($24, 2 players)
Orlis7 bets $17, $17 to Hero ($87)?

Ok so we hit a good flop for us to make a move, its very dry and he will c/b a large amount here. we have some options;

call/float is okay and if we hit Q or K opp cud 2 barrel us but since opp is a seemingly aggro opp then i dnt think he will shutdown so much in these spots and let me take control. if i called id check back turn to make my hands look like ive actually got a made hand then fake VB riv.

A better option imo is to just shove and try take it down now plus my hand has better bluffing equity vs his calling range than alot of other holdings.

lets say he will call with only 88+ which is very reasonable since i strngly doubt any other hand can call;
with KQ we have 15% equity when called
with 66 we have 7.7%
with AQ we have 17%
with JT we have 8.6%

Basically we have twice the equity to other hands we may call preflop with. if i had 66 in this spot i may float instead of shove.

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

back from rome now.

played last night and won a buyin at 100nl. actually played like 24/19 for 2 hours which is a big difference than my usual nit crap. i think something has clicked and im not afraid to go with my reads and mix things up.

BR about 4k exactly. If i feel confident when i hit 5k i may mix in some 200n tbls.

great update DG, hope you're back at 200NL very soon.

Didnt get much chance to do much this weekend since its my bday 2m and i spent the weekend drinking mostly. had one small session for -$54 but i had only like 30min to play so whatever.

Bankroll is officially exactly $4,000. While it looks like ive been around this mark for awhile now ive actually paid further coaching of $415 in meantime. So now i expect to keep this roll together with mayeb get some more coaching b4 years end. Again I wanna say that at $5,000 i will look at shots at 200nl.

Also i plan to still play a laggier game than my usual 19/16. Ive played at 23/19 lately and the style seems to suit me and it makes the games a hell of alot more fun too.

HOLLA +$829 over 726 hands babyyyyyyyyyyyy

Plus i recorded my second session wher i won 7 buyins.

Bankroll is €4820

Lol, nice job man!! Ship the vid!

Played a sesh tonight and gonna watch a DC video now.

Took a shot at 200nl . Mixed in 2 tbls of 200nl into my mix of 4-6 tbls of usually 100nl. I choose not to just 2 tbl bcoz I wanted to play a tight game and not get bored plus tables were fishy enough to play straight forward.

Overall I won $287. A buyin at 200nl and one at 100nl.

One tough hand vs unknown. i took alot of time on turn and riv to decide but with his preflop limp i assuemd he was bad and I cudnt put him on a stronger hand so i moan called.

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG JeePee69 ($299.75)
UTG+1 SaNdY737 ($199.00)
CO SUPATILT ($210.20)
BTN carlorana ($243.45)
SB 2_jayggins_1 ($323.75)
BB Hero ($214.35)

Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is BB
1 fold, SaNdY737 calls $2, 1 fold, carlorana calls $2, 1 fold, Hero checks

Flop: ($7, 3 players)
Hero bets $7, SaNdY737 calls $7, 1 fold

Turn: ($21, 2 players)
Hero bets $14, SaNdY737 raises to $42, Hero calls $28

River: ($105, 2 players)
Hero checks, SaNdY737 bets $92, Hero calls $92

Final Pot: $289
Hero shows:
SaNdY737 shows:

Hero wins $286 ( won +$143 )
carlorana lost -$2.00
SaNdY737 lost -$143.00

BR - €5,108

on the last hand you posted i'd rather c/c the turn, since i don't think we can get three streets of value when the flop was so dry. If i bet the turn it would be with the intention of folding to a raise. Glad it worked out of course

i dont think b/f turn should be the play here.

we should heavily discount 22 and 44 leaving us with 77 as his only set. I think 77 is unlikely since i think ppl would raise that preflop aswell as and especially 99 so all his sets are out. So only hand im behind on turn is 79 BUT and ive thought about this some.......

......ive seen alot of opp do weird things with hands that have minimal showdown value (but still have value), i think this guy found out that his J7 hand was really just no good here so he starts overrepping his hand. I think the guy cud do it with 2x,4x,7x, 9x (tho i dicsount 9x alot obv). So this puts alot more hands in his bluffing range which could include silly gutshots/overcards/pair+fd/fd+overs etc.

So i call turn bcoz im getting value from nothing I beat by raising. The riv bring an Ace and a completed OESD buyt i wasnt worried about that since he likely just calls my turn bet to draw.

my riv call is still a cry call since i wanted an easy time moving up

had another quick sesh at 200nl. won half a buyin. ran fairly meh i sucked out T9 on 9TJ vs 87 allin on flop vs super aggro donk. That win got me up past break even, lost alot of medium pots. I got sucked out on some in them but im happy that I lost the minimum in them spots.

so far my 200nl shots are working, +1.5 buyins

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

so far my 200nl shots are working, +1.5 buyins

nice! braver than I - I pulled out $5k and decided to drop to 50nl playing 100buyins deep for a while rather than face moving up to 200nl...

just played a sesh and lost $236. Im fairly annoyed at how it went. nothing went right for me. I didnt get stacked but instead lost a bunch of medium pots. There were tons of fish out today tho im finding the fish aloty more aggro than at previous levels. i was pretty card dead throughout.

i probably shouldnt be as disappointed as I feel though I did make some errors, i just cudnt hit a flop in big pots etc

Well I totalled up the number of hands I played in August and it was a pityful 10,000 hands, wtf!!! I just play 4 tbls about 6-8 hours per week and I really figured I get more in.

So my goal is obv get more hands in. However I think its not a case of spending more time on the pc but instead using that time more effectively. For example Ive 3.5 hours free time on certain days but probably play just 2 hours then watch vids. So last night I played for 3 hours straight then watched 1/2 a vid. I wanna try keep this up but it is toughish, about 2 hours in i noticed myself tighten up alot and not play with as much focus but in the last 30 min I got a second wind and was back to playing well. I hope to keep this up.

Since my last entry I had a -$75, +$200, +$200 sessions all at 100nl I think. Im gonna grind the 100nl tables for a bit I think until i figure out how the fuck eyepoker datamine tool works, I just cant figure that shit out.

BR: $5400

played some good stuff tonight for +$151. Was up $300 but ran KK into AsAx on Jsxsxs flop I had no spade lol

Played some fun hands; hm mok WT aint working so sowwy in advance

#1 opp was 28/20. dont know much more.

***** Hand History for Game 1149823885 *****
$100.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, September 04, 09:21:43 ET 2008
Table TURBO Schererville (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Seat 1: Spencinator1 ( $103.20 USD )
Seat 3: Horr ( $100.00 USD )
Seat 5: wissenholt ( $144.55 USD )
Seat 6: puggyboy ( $90.72 USD )
Seat 8: PokeriReima5 ( $58.94 USD )
Seat 10: wildash ( $157.00 USD )
wildash posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
Spencinator1 posts big blind [$1.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to wildash [ Kc As ]
Horr folds
wissenholt raises [$3.00 USD]
puggyboy folds
PokeriReima5 calls [$3.00 USD]
wildash raises [$14.00 USD]
Spencinator1 folds
wissenholt calls [$11.50 USD]
PokeriReima5 folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8h, 2s, Ah ]
wildash checks
wissenholt bets [$18.00 USD]
wildash calls [$18.00 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jc ]
wildash checks
wissenholt bets [$40.00 USD]
wildash raises [$124.50 USD]
wissenholt calls [$72.05 USD]

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#2 opp was 23/19. 6% 3bet but ive been aggro with steals and 3bet HIM last hand whihc he folded to.

***** Hand History for Game 1149760052 *****
$100.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, September 04, 08:51:30 ET 2008
Table TURBO Santa Claus (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: PokeriReima5 ( $105.00 USD )
Seat 3: wildash ( $114.45 USD )
Seat 6: suilenof ( $113.30 USD )
Seat 8: BelMeDan ( $99.40 USD )
Seat 10: yangqiulo ( $100.00 USD )
suilenof posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
BelMeDan posts big blind [$1.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to wildash [ 9s 7s ]
yangqiulo folds
PokeriReima5 folds
wildash raises [$3.00 USD]
suilenof folds
BelMeDan raises [$10.00 USD]
wildash calls [$8.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6h, 3c, 4s ]
BelMeDan bets [$17.00 USD]
wildash calls [$17.00 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5h ]
BelMeDan bets [$25.00 USD]
wildash ????????????? best turn move?????????

---------------------------------------------

#3 opp was 18/18, ive got trouble in these spots. help


***** Hand History for Game 1149461973 *****
$100.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, September 04, 06:08:10 ET 2008
Table Bellini (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Seat 3: DonnaKaran ( $68.90 USD )
Seat 6: wildash ( $108.68 USD )
Seat 8: BigGOGI ( $111.40 USD )
Seat 10: MURDITO ( $59.55 USD )
MURDITO posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
DonnaKaran posts big blind [$1.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to wildash [ Ts Ah ]
wildash raises [$3.00 USD]
BigGOGI folds
MURDITO folds
DonnaKaran calls [$2.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ad, 8h, Jh ]
DonnaKaran bets [$4.00 USD]
wildash calls [$4.00 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3c ]
DonnaKaran bets [$10.00 USD]
wildash calls [$10.00 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 8c ]
DonnaKaran bets [$17.25 USD]
wildash calls [$17.25 USD]

-----------------------------------------

Thanks for any comment in advance.

Bankroll now - $5,538 not counting any RB im to get. yay i think ive come along way since start of the year. on track for being a 200nl reg.

Why check flop and turn in hand one? Are you THAT sure he'll valuetown himself?

Hand 2 looks like a blocker from him IMO. He only has pot behind. Pushing now isn't bad, but I think call and let him hang himself on river might be sexy too...

Hand 3 I think I raise flop and then go passive from there if he calls and leads turn.

1. Why flop c/c? Easy cbet with your entire range, no?

2. Prob fold pre with only a 6% 3bet. I usually like raising the flop better, but it depends on opp. I think I flat turn as played.

3. Good I think.

Thx for comments cman and zook,

Hand 1 - I put him on a very smallish range when he calls me preflop. And the flop A can kill alot of my action vs TT+ so i decide to c/c here expecting all worse Ax hands to bet and some underpairs/air to bet too (btw im not afriad of a flush). IM kinda willing to rep JJ-KK here. Btw imo it was either c/b or c/c not c/r since we are fairly deepish.

On turn he bets again which is fine since im repping JJ-KK imo but I dont go for another c/c street bcoz I dont want to let another card come and i expect him to check back alot on river. I decide pot is large enough to try just take down so i c/r.

Hand 2 - I agree folding preflop is totally fine, i felt some dynamics to call tho plus i love playing 3bet pots IP. I think I should flat call here ALOT since he keeps my range alot wider and he may stack off an overpair on riv.

Hand 3 - Cman I rly dont like raising flop bcoz;
- I dont want to get allin on flop
- I dont wanna bloat the pot
- im not willing to keep firing barrels
- I wont be able to narrow down his range much
- calling keeps alot of worse hands in

Sadly i think this may be the only way t play it

Well I cant beleive Ive not played any poker in a week. I had a few things to do but I def had plenty of opportunities to play. Ive been in a limbo about what I wanna do regards poker. Either keep shooting for 200nl 6max or try a change and play HU 100nl. My problem is I still cant set up eyepoker to mine 200nl for me and I dont wanna move up/shoot at 200nl with having done my research abit AND Im abit afraid of 100nl HU since that could well be very costly if swings hit me hard.

Anyway Ill decide when I get home this evening. In the past week though Ive been watching tons of HU videos and trying to learn lots. Ive bought an A4 pad yday and Ive been writing down concepts etc form the videos. So far Ive done one krantz vid and a WiltonTilt vid, the notes are quality imo. There are so many concepts missed when you just watch a video without notes.

BR is about 5.4K i think

Have you thought about moving to a site you can mine?

Do you do any study from articles? I printed about ten of my favourite FTR articles, and for each of them I'm going and sitting down with a pen and paper and playing through the ideas being described. I think that this (i.e. taking notes) is one of the best ways to improve.

as for poker videos! I've watched a couple of the FTR ones and one from a 2+2 reg guy I play against a bunch to help me exploit him. Sometime I'll get around to watching more, maybe. Dunno, i haven't read a book yet either, I think there are resources enough here and elsewhere. But videos definitely do help people with some concepts - I play Full Tilt and it seems as though all the other regs have gone and used their fpps to join cardrunners. It sucks. I think that the cardrunners thing is the worst thing to happen to the game quality on FT. I never used to get 3-bet, nobody used to defend their blinds, people barely ever floated, overpairs never folded. And this was only two months ago...

I read forums some depending on my mood. i mostly try to read a book if i can or watch videos. I think ill stick to getting out the pen and paper for the videos since they have a way better noise to content ratio

Ive done one krantz vid in full and ive 5 A4 pages of stuff i think is cool.

I think 200NL 6max would be just about as swingy as HU, no?

Well there was no HU games going on ipoker so i played 6max tonight.

Sucks but i lost $324 tonight , im not mad or sad. I think I played fairly well and lost $158 at 200nl. i got top 2 pair in vs 60bb who had a set in a raised pot BvB. and lost $166 at 100nl where JJ>AA. I didnt kinda spew a buyin maybe it was close.

Ah well BR is at $5,255. well since ive counted my roll im a little tilted im below $5,500

hai

bye

wait

wot

+$265 last night just playing 100nl. I actually went back to playing on prima instead of on ipoker. Im thinking both sites actually play very similiar and since the waiting lists for the decent tbls on prima were lower I went for that.

I also bought eyepoker and primaeye since i wanna improve my selection for 200nl. ive still to figure out eyepoker but alt least i can grind prima while i try fix eyepoker. plus the RB im getting on prima is quality.

I finished reviewing WiltonTilts HU video, reviewed krantz Lighsabers 2 - Ep 3 i think. Krantz vids ar eusually quality. I also got in his Lightsabers 1 - Ep 8 last night but I made no notes while watching since i felt it was pretty poor overall and he talked about other series coming and spots were standard etc.

Another good sesh in the bag for +$452 at 100nl. im mining primas 200nl so hope to play that soon, again ive not tried fix eyepoker yet.

tbh I feel i just crush 100nl now, theres no players that really give me a problem. of course im not saying im a good player since ill likely get pwned at 200nl when i finally move up. im just syaing im finding 100nl relatively easy.

Played a swongy session on saturday. up and down a buyin constantly. ended it down $30 per HM but in reality in down $150 since I played and lost more on euro tables.

I feel I played well though. Ill be def taking shots at 200nl now since ive been mining primas 200nl tables, maybe get a chance tonight if the tables are good.

BR about 5.8k

Played a good bit of 200nl last night and won $144 at it. Some tough spots and one annoying opp but otherwise it was fine. I think I can beat the level. Most opps are ultra nits playing 15/10 type thing or ultra multitablers playing 8/4 lol or fish. nits are iso'ing fish nearly enough so theres plenty of room to play, theres some good regs who play a decent aggro tag game but very few of them.

i played some 100nl and donked around 50nl to end up just $ 60 or so on the day but whatever its all good. Im happy my shot worked. probably wont be playing till wed night.

BR roughly $5.9K. Almost at 6k but my roll had a highest of $6.05k a week ago!