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 Originally Posted by daven
Originally Posted by Micro2Macro
I'll leave this blog for now with a thought: It's not just their range that needs to be considered, it's HOW they play their range.
same thing right?
ranges are modified by every action to become a subset of their previous range. This subset is now their range
yeah, well like, there's been lots of spots where I know villains range, yet disregard how he plays it and instead try to force him to play it the way I want. example: running a multistreet bluff on someone when their hand is face up as a marginal made hand that 'shouldn't be able to stand alot of heat'. well if that person isn't weak/tight enough to let it go, you just burn money bluffing into stations.
so yeah, it seriously took me >500k hands to learn not to bluff people who can't fold.
like let's say villain checks the river to us. his range is XXY. he will only call a river shove if you he has Y. you shove for pot and you have a +EV bluff. now let's say his range is still XXY, but he snaps off your shove with everything - well its obvious we can't bluff, even if we KNOW X is like 2nd or 3rd pair. so sometimes a player will check their entire range on the river, and when we're left with a PSB all we have to do is determine whether we're value betting or bluffing given what we anticipate his calling range to be.
ok I just rambled about obvious random stuff and I may have screwed up my explanation on what I said, but yeah disregard this I guess I've been grinding like 8+ hours a day to get Supernova so I'm kinda burnt out. I realize I went out of line in regards to what you said daven. I think you and I think about poker differently though, like our pattern of thought is different, but we seem to end up arriving at the same conclusion. Interesting, but I think it's true for anyone really.
cliff notes:
[x] people are stations at small stakes too, not just micros
[x] you can't force people to fold
[x] m2m took forever to learn this
[x] m2m is getting Supernova
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