Operation Get Better

Shows how poor my short term memory is . Its a great concept though.

back to even on the day. will not play anymore.

I think I played one had horribly and tried to make a hero call, QQ < AA 100bb deep allin pre vs. regular who 4bets a lot (obv. hit a Q on flop but still gg) and then got, well, I'll just say I put my money in very well. I think the last 2 were played well and standard so I can't complain about that. I just need to stop thinking ahead of what I'll buy in the near future to only be let down by continuing to play.

You're probably in the toughest spot for that from most of us in that your roll isnt that big, AND you're literally using it for groceries. A buyin, even at 50nl does have a realworld impact. My only advice is to keep withdrawals to an absolute minimum, and tough it out till you hit a good upswing and build the roll up to where thats no longer the case. Until then, just try to block it out while at the tables I guess.

Yeah I was thinking about all this today. Good points and I tried to come up with an absolute minimum amount each month to withdrawl. I think it came to around $450. That's a complete estimate though and I am hoping after a few months I'll be able to have a good general idea on how much I can withdrawl as well as how many hands I should be playing each month.

Thinking about 3betting ranges (the bluff part), is it bad to think that we should 3bet bluff more OOP with Axs type stuff and more SC IP because with Axs (maybe off too) we establish more folds preflop as opposed to SC in which we can play our hand pretty easily postflop?

In position I think there's a lot of value flatting sc's and suited aces so I prefer 3bet bluffing with stuff that isn't good enough to flat... like Axo, T9o, KTo, crap like that.

I think I played poker for one of the only times of my life. I actually went pretty indepth in hand reading, something I am trying to work on. I used kind of manipulative lines that I will most likely post either here or in the short handed forums to see if others agree. Some bad hands include getting KK < set on flop allin on flop. I "slowplayed" preflop but I seem to be getting mixed results by doing that. I also lost a huge pot allin on flop and the dude runner runners me so no harm there.

I won't say if I won this next hand but I thought it was very interesting. I am going to post it in the short handed forums but basically I had AKo vs. a tilter and he open shoves 28bb preflop, I elect to flat on the button and the BB semi nit pushes for 140bb. My initial thoughts is I have blockers and most people with KK and AA would slow down more but meh that's an assumption. But I'll let you know the results later on.

I think I played pretty well in 3bet and 4bet pots. I 4bet some dude 3betting over 20% with KQo and he insta-5bet shoved which I thought was interesting. Oh yeah, I lost when I cbet vs. a loose guy with QQ on a T high board, turned a set putting 2 hearts up and then river was another heart and I shoved for pot. He called. Bleh. There's another couple of hands of me trying new lines that I will post to see how awful the are. I think I already said that though.

Anyways, I have my first bball game tonight and I am pumped. Just finished the school week basically. Class at 4 but it's kind of like an extra session for the class so may not attend since I went to bed at 12:30 last night and fell asleep at 4. I just couldn't sleep. Woke up at 6:30 obv.

Special shoutout to anyone who has helped me in anyway. That stuff really doesn't go unnoticed and I appreciate you all very much. Because of my support, I think right now I am more determined than I have ever been or been in awhile in getting really better and understanding this game more. I'm down over a buyin today and couldn't be happier.


Edit: just realized I am down 2.5 buyins at 50nl which includes winning at 100NL in a short session so maybe not as happy I was haha.

Originally Posted by kmind

Because of my support, I think right now I am more determined than I have ever been or been in awhile in getting really better and understanding this game more. I'm down over a buyin today and couldn't be happier.

Yessss... getting better is good!

oh and that AK hand, I wouldn't really get tricky with it, and just ship it. Yes sometimes a hand like AQ/AJ might shove over you to get the dead money. BUT I think flatting will more often either encourage lower/midpairs to call pre or jam over you, and those are the hands that you'd like to have fold when you have AK.

As played, how "nit" is semi-nit? If a semi-nit is shipping 140bb's... I'm not even sure I like my AK too much anymore.

I hate AK but the hand in question is in my SH thread. Good advice about just shipping it myself.

Originally Posted by kmind

I hate AK but the hand in question is in my SH thread. Good advice about just shipping it myself.

Wronggg, tourney donks!

Its something Ian and I argued about a few times. I just dont feel like we need to slowplay PF at 50nl. I'm all for shipping AA and KK preflop. AK I'll try to ship if I'm OOP, but IP I use my judgement.

As for the AK hand in question. Tough spot. I had a similar one last night where I isolated a shortstack laggy fish for 22bbs with AKs and the nit SB shipped it in. I nearly folded that but chose to call and flipped well v's QQ. Its kinda borderline though. Your image probably comes into the decision.

I used to hate AK. Now it's one of my favorite hands. So many options.... It's in pretty much every one of my ranges.

Originally Posted by Fnord

I used to hate AK. Now it's one of my favorite hands. So many options.... It's in pretty much every one of my ranges.

don't do this to me! I always have AK being no goot in the back of my head because of you specifically so now I have change my thought

Originally Posted by Fnord

I used to hate AK. Now it's one of my favorite hands. So many options.... It's in pretty much every one of my ranges.

haha! wow, i just had this exact same thought out loud today when I was talking to my buddy.

reminder to posts stats

warning: down 4 buyins today and now losing on the month

Not a big sample but still just in case

i puked
new graph plxz

Originally Posted by flomo

i puked
new graph plxz

Tighten up UTG.

Tighten up OTB.

I dont know if its just sample size, but think about your 3-bet range OTB.

Probably tighten up in the blinds more.


This is largely guesswork, but I think you're stealing OTB so wide that regs are 3-betting you wide, which is getting you into crappy 4-bet/5-bet bluff spots. A valid adjustment to being 3-bet a bunch is to tighten your button range somewhat. I dont know how much of that is resulting in your red line of doom. Something I've noticed on mine is when the redline heads down, I'm often making speculative calls too much (SCs, Suited Aces, crap like that, to both normal raises and 3-bets).

Spend some time messing around with your HEM report filters and see what pops out at you.

Originally Posted by bjsaust

Tighten up OTB.

GTFO NIT

Nit works .

Seriously though, he's winning more from the CO than OTB, and his trouble area atm is handling people who 3-bet him too much. Taking those two things into account, perhaps running 38% vpip OTB isnt the best plan.

so like your solution if someone was burning their hand on the stove would be to tell them to stop cooking instead of to use an oven mitt?

Originally Posted by bigspenda73

so like your solution if someone was burning their hand on the stove would be to tell them to stop cooking instead of to use an oven mitt?

I like thisssss

he's pretty tight UTG already, though tightening up OOP can never hurt too much.

I wouldn't tighten-up on the button though, so do as spenda says and use an oven mitt, and start playing some postflop!

zomg the BTN is your gold mine, NEVER TIGHTEN UP THERE if u likes ze gold!!!!

Butttt, maybe try not 3betting as much on BTN see if it works for you? Just an idea, not sure if it will fit in your game...

Also I'm playing the exact same VPIP and PFR with won at showdown of 51 like you... but I go to showdown a hell of a lot more, how come urs is 21.. tbh im not even sure how i could even get it this low (loves to make sick calls on the river)

speaking of which : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHABA...200809&paged=3

BTN stats are fine but CO are too high by quite a bit imo. 3bet numbers are ok, you might be 3betting a little too much from the BTN though and I think SB 3bet% should usually be higher than BB. You usually close the action in the BB so squeezing isn't as attractive and you don't mind flatting some hands like pp's that you would 3bet in the SB. Small sample size could easily be skewing this though. I'm a little worried that you're not winning with those tight showdown numbers, but again, sample size isn't big enough to draw any conclusions I don't think.

Wow yah I didn't notice that your WTSD was so low at 21%. What may be happening is that you might be betting your marginal hands in position, and getting called. THen you check through the turn, and perhaps are folding rivers?

How often do you check your marginal/second pair hands through on the flop, and then call their turn leads, and sometimes peel off their river nonsense too?

Originally Posted by bigspenda73

Originally Posted by bjsaust

Tighten up OTB.

GTFO NIT

LOL this is worthy of a sig

Originally Posted by kmind

Originally Posted by flomo

i puked
new graph plxz

Wat? How is break even with a 6 buy-in swing not totally standard over 10k hands?

Well its a strange analogy Spenda, but lets just say that along the lines of that analogy I suggested using the oven less (not to stop cooking), whereas other than Alexos everyone else just said continue cooking as you have been regardless of your burns. Noone (until Alexos on 3-betting) has made any mention of the equivalent of an oven-mitt to actually suggest how he stop getting burnt so much while cooking the same way.

Originally Posted by griffey24

Wow yah I didn't notice that your WTSD was so low at 21%. What may be happening is that you might be betting your marginal hands in position, and getting called. THen you check through the turn, and perhaps are folding rivers?

How often do you check your marginal/second pair hands through on the flop, and then call their turn leads, and sometimes peel off their river nonsense too?

I do this a toooon. Should I just start betting them instead?

I talked to another friend that said I might be cbetting a tad too much?

zook - shouldn't BU and CO numbers be quite similar?

ben/spenda - first of all, ben, yeah I definitely call with Axs and SC maybe too much to small 3bets because of the price. But not sure if folding that would help? About the button stuff, IP is sweet but I guess maybe I just need to learn how to play it better?

rest - why is 3betting on the button a lot bad? I was thinking this was the best position to do so but maybe doing it in the the other positions besides the blinds is better and calling more on the button is good? I mean, I obv. look down at KT0 in the sb a lot and want to 3bet the shit out of that vs. stealers but should my OOP 3bet% be near or higher than my IP %? I think to get my red line down more I should double/triple barrel more, c/f flops more and also c/r flops more. Seem good at all? I think the hardest thing I have is finding the good times to raise people's cbets. They seem to always have it.

How the hell do I get my WTSD better and what is a std number? Any good suggestions on simple ways to improve this stat, maybe with examples?

I definitely appreciate all the responses guys!

I'll admit I purely looked at your profit per position. As we all agree the button should be your biggest winning position, so the fact its not means you're probably doing something wrong. The two things that stood out to me was how much looser you were there than the CO, and how much more you 3-bet there than anywhere else. If you're doing those things and not being as profitable as you should, they're good targets to modify your game.

Well I thought your WTSD might be low cause you were betting marginal hands on flop, check turn and then FOLDING to river leads.

As opposed to take the same range of hands, checking flop with second pair, calling their turn leads and sometimes checking through river. Pot control is definitely something that increases your WTSD a lot... not saying this is good or not, just saying a change that would make this higher!

Played just like 3 sessions consisting of like 500 hands each. 1st two I won two buyins each about. I luckboxed in one big hand though. I seem to not know what to do with JJ or TT to a 3bet vs. an unknown because only some of the regs are doing it lightly. My last session I ended down a buyin but I am confused. I would have sworn I was up but alas I wasn't after reviewing via HEM. I am tired now but will post hands tomorrow. I need to play about 6k hands this week.

I am really focusing on putting opponents on better ranges than I ever have. I mean I never really focused on card combos which is dumb. I'm playing a tad nittier preflop as well to see how that works and cbetting somewhat less to get to showdown more. I'm pretty happy with results. What's interesting is I can't recall getting it in preflop AA vs. KK at all this month besides me being on the KK end once. I guess I never really have gotten it in preflop at all 100bb deep with the best hand. EDIT: Upon further review, HEM filters show me getting it in 3 times preflop vs. 100bb stacks+ and winning. 1 was AA vs. KK, 1 was AA Vs. TT and finally QQ vs. ATs (which was the only one above 100bb deep). These were all the first 3 days of playing this month so maybe that's why I have the bad memory and also why I jumped to an early good start.

I just withdrew another $200. I'm coming to terms with this because I am still very determined to crush this game and I think, and hope, by the end of the month I'll have a much better grasp of this damn level as opposed to Nov. 1.

NC State was 2-0 this weekend (bball and football) and VCU crushed so all is good there. Also got an A on a stats test. gg math.

Been playing tighter the past couple of days. Like 20/17. Seems to be doing well and I am now up I think 6 buyins for the month which is good considering how I felt a few days ago.

4am here, thinking about just staying up all night. Have class at 8. Kind of like the thread in the commune. Thing is though, if I fall asleep I won't wake up but if I stay awake, I won't be awake during class...Anyways, I have kind of given up on trying at school at least for this semester. I haven't been to a certain class in over 4 weeks and another today was my second time in about 4 weeks as well (with the other time being test day). And then going to like every other one with my other classes. I kind of scope out my classes in the beginning of the semester and decide which ones will be safe to miss and then miss way too many of them. Kind of a shame. I keep getting haunting dreams of failing my classes though which have helped me somewhat keep up with it. Maybe I should start a prop bet like the one I won with DogIsHead about missing school = $$ to a random person.

Speaking of DogIsHead, I ran out of all my subscriptions (DC and Leggo). Since I am low on funds, I decided to use some FTP points on StoxPoker just to try to check out a site (for basically free) and also have at least some content from videos available. Luck has it that Leggo was ashamed of their performance last July or something so they also gave me a free month. So now I have a month of Leggo and Stox. Stox I can always get for free via FTP but I really want to test out CardRunners. I might save up money for a 6 month there but would really like to save up FTP points but I spent a majority on the Stox deal and headphones.

Anyways, Leggo videos have been really good for my game lately. I started watching some 100NL videos by Isuru and they are good. I think I forgot how much videos can impact my game. I also clearly forgot how to table select and by table selecting recently I have gotten a muuuuuch better winrate. I'm an idiot.

Today's session was great. I think I played one hand really well and then another not so well. I could have saved my money by not betting the turn into some donks royal when I had two pair. He was awful though.

I'm really tired which is why this post makes zero sense.

u shud of downloaded tons of DC stuff since theres no DRM.

yeah got lazy + reformatted computer = no excuse still because I have an external HD FUCK. Thinking about signing up again and using their 7 day free trial and d/l everything I want but seems kind of shady.

Table selection is something I've been poor with lately. I'll table select initially, but then just stay at tables even if they turn bad.

Yeah that's how I was doing it. Quickly search the high VPIP tables and sit no matter what, regardless of positions. Now I changed that. Now I am winning again.

Hmm, maybe theres something in that for me?

I made some really big mistakes last night costing me almost 2 buyins. They literally kept me up last night. Pretty healthy, eh?

Anyways, after reading a few blogs from friends of friends, I was wondering if anyone here has a decent red line (won money without showdown)? I know it doesn't mean anything if we are making more with the worst red line possible but I am just curious because I predict my line to be a lot lower than optimum.

Originally Posted by kmind

I made some really big mistakes last night costing me almost 2 buyins. They literally kept me up last night. Pretty healthy, eh?

Anyways, after reading a few blogs from friends of friends, I was wondering if anyone here has a decent red line (won money without showdown)? I know it doesn't mean anything if we are making more with the worst red line possible but I am just curious because I predict my line to be a lot lower than optimum.

brag: my red line is craaaaaazy up this month... along with my AF

beat: my blue line sucks ass

As would be expected!

Siccccck. I'd say we should combine our play but you and Alex are already going to do that

This guy had the best of me:

Full Tilt Poker Game #9101332727: Table Deerbrook (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:41:37 ET - 2008/11/21
Seat 1: SST1 ($41.40)
Seat 2: YoungIn24 ($104.40)
Seat 3: Dan The Man ($49.50)
Seat 4: SuitsUs ($50)
Seat 5: amroth64 ($51.15)
Seat 6: Casparxx ($53.90)
Dan The Man posts the small blind of $0.25
SuitsUs posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SuitsUs [Kd Ac]
amroth64 folds
Casparxx folds
SST1 calls $0.50
YoungIn24 calls $0.50
Casparxx: no how does it work?
Dan The Man folds
SuitsUs raises to $2.50
YoungIn24: nm
SST1 calls $2
YoungIn24: just got it hooked up
YoungIn24 has 15 seconds left to act
YoungIn24 calls $2
*** FLOP *** [6d Ks 9c]
SuitsUs bets $6
Casparxx: need rakeback
SST1 calls $6
YoungIn24 calls $6
*** TURN *** [6d Ks 9c] [Jc]
SuitsUs has 15 seconds left to act
SuitsUs bets $18.50
SST1 raises to $32.90, and is all in
YoungIn24 has 15 seconds left to act
YoungIn24 folds
SuitsUs calls $14.40
SST1 shows [Js Jd]
SuitsUs shows [Kd Ac]
*** RIVER *** [6d Ks 9c Jc] [Qc]
SST1 shows three of a kind, Jacks
SuitsUs shows a pair of Kings
SST1 wins the pot ($88.55) with three of a kind, Jacks
SuitsUs adds $41.40
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $91.55 | Rake $3
Board: [6d Ks 9c Jc Qc]
Seat 1: SST1 showed [Js Jd] and won ($88.55) with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 2: YoungIn24 (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 3: Dan The Man (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: SuitsUs (big blind) showed [Kd Ac] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 5: amroth64 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Casparxx didn't bet (folded)

Full Tilt Poker Game #9101295633: Table Deerbrook (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:39:04 ET - 2008/11/21
Seat 1: SST1 ($23.75)
Seat 2: YoungIn24 ($104.15)
Seat 4: SuitsUs ($50)
Seat 5: amroth64 ($51.15)
Seat 6: Casparxx ($50.25)
Casparxx posts the small blind of $0.25
SST1 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SuitsUs [7d 8c]
YoungIn24 folds
SuitsUs raises to $1.50
amroth64 folds
Casparxx folds
SST1 calls $1
*** FLOP *** [Kc 7c 8s]
Dan The Man sits down
SST1 checks
Dan The Man adds $50
SuitsUs bets $3
SST1 calls $3
*** TURN *** [Kc 7c 8s] [Qh]
SST1 checks
SuitsUs bets $6.50
SST1 calls $6.50
*** RIVER *** [Kc 7c 8s Qh] [Ah]
SST1 checks
SuitsUs has 15 seconds left to act
SuitsUs bets $15.25
SST1 calls $12.75, and is all in
Uncalled bet of $2.50 returned to SuitsUs
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SuitsUs shows [7d 8c] two pair, Eights and Sevens
SST1 shows [Jd Td] a straight, Ace high
SST1 wins the pot ($45.40) with a straight, Ace high
SuitsUs adds $23.75
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $47.75 | Rake $2.35
Board: [Kc 7c 8s Qh Ah]
Seat 1: SST1 (big blind) showed [Jd Td] and won ($45.40) with a straight, Ace high
Seat 2: YoungIn24 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: SuitsUs showed [7d 8c] and lost with two pair, Eights and Sevens
Seat 5: amroth64 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Casparxx (small blind) folded before the Flop

Full Tilt Poker Game #9100908186: Table Deerbrook (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:13:26 ET - 2008/11/21
Seat 1: SST1 ($32.90)
Seat 2: YoungIn24 ($111.85)
Seat 3: enolagay4 ($14.75)
Seat 4: SuitsUs ($50)
Seat 5: AHHHYYOOOUU ($80.60)
Seat 6: Casparxx ($50)
SuitsUs posts the small blind of $0.25
AHHHYYOOOUU posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SuitsUs [As Qd]
Casparxx folds
SST1 calls $0.50
YoungIn24 has 15 seconds left to act
YoungIn24 is sitting out
YoungIn24 has timed out
YoungIn24 folds
enolagay4 folds
SuitsUs raises to $2.25
AHHHYYOOOUU folds
SST1 calls $1.75
*** FLOP *** [8s Ac 2h]
SuitsUs checks
SST1 bets $1.50
SuitsUs calls $1.50
*** TURN *** [8s Ac 2h] [8d]
SuitsUs bets $5.50
AHHHYYOOOUU stands up
SST1 has 15 seconds left to act
SST1 raises to $29.15, and is all in
SuitsUs has 15 seconds left to act
YoungIn24 has returned
SuitsUs has requested TIME
SuitsUs calls $23.65
SST1 shows [Ah 9c]
SuitsUs shows [As Qd]
*** RIVER *** [8s Ac 2h 8d] [Ad]
SST1 shows a full house, Aces full of Eights
SuitsUs shows a full house, Aces full of Eights
SuitsUs ties for the pot ($31.65) with a full house, Aces full of Eights
SST1 ties for the pot ($31.65) with a full house, Aces full of Eights
SuitsUs adds $1.25
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $66.30 | Rake $3
Board: [8s Ac 2h 8d Ad]
Seat 1: SST1 showed [Ah 9c] and won ($31.65) with a full house, Aces full of Eights
Seat 2: YoungIn24 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: enolagay4 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: SuitsUs (small blind) showed [As Qd] and won ($31.65) with a full house, Aces full of Eights
Seat 5: AHHHYYOOOUU (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: Casparxx didn't bet (folded)


down over 3 buyins in my last 1k hands or so. Pretty dumb if you ask me.

Not sure if this is really bad:
Full Tilt Poker Game #9101097424: Table Greycrest (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:25:38 ET - 2008/11/21
Seat 1: abrkeith ($31.05)
Seat 2: WaceyRabbit ($67.75)
Seat 3: SuitsUs ($65.85)
Seat 5: GiebYourStack ($50)
Seat 6: luckychief ($49.30)
SuitsUs posts the small blind of $0.25
GiebYourStack posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SuitsUs [8d Kh]
luckychief folds
abrkeith folds
WaceyRabbit folds
SuitsUs raises to $1.50
GiebYourStack calls $1
*** FLOP *** [3s Ts Ks]
SuitsUs bets $2
GiebYourStack has 15 seconds left to act
GiebYourStack has requested TIME
GiebYourStack raises to $6.50
SuitsUs has 15 seconds left to act
SuitsUs calls $4.50
*** TURN *** [3s Ts Ks] [7d]
SuitsUs checks
GiebYourStack has 15 seconds left to act
GiebYourStack has requested TIME
GiebYourStack bets $11
SuitsUs has 15 seconds left to act
SuitsUs has requested TIME
SuitsUs calls $11
*** RIVER *** [3s Ts Ks 7d] [2h]
SuitsUs checks
GiebYourStack has 15 seconds left to act
GiebYourStack has requested TIME
GiebYourStack bets $16
SuitsUs calls $16

His aggro was 2.0 on flop and seemed to be a 50nl regularish type guy. Like 21/21 stats over the few hands I had.

I'm hoping to get coaching soon again from a new person but that won't happen anytime soon if I keep going backwards. Shits old, what's new.

Just fold that K8 hand, for reallll. You're OOP, with a marginal hand, that probably has at BEST 50/50 equity (given his most likely draw to be raising is the As) and thats if you're not already drawing dead!

Originally Posted by griffey24

Just fold that K8 hand, for reallll. You're OOP, with a marginal hand, that probably has at BEST 50/50 equity (given his most likely draw to be raising is the As) and thats if you're not already drawing dead!

yeah agreed. I was just in that tiltish-wtf-everyone-can't-have-everything-every-time mode.

Originally Posted by kmind

Originally Posted by griffey24

Just fold that K8 hand, for reallll. You're OOP, with a marginal hand, that probably has at BEST 50/50 equity (given his most likely draw to be raising is the As) and thats if you're not already drawing dead!

yeah agreed. I was just in that tiltish-wtf-everyone-can't-have-everything-every-time mode.

haha well in that case I applaud your hand, cause I shippp this flop when I'm in that mode

Ok, I managed to get like 2 buyins back yesterday or late Friday night I forgot.

Today, I got disconnected in a big pot where I would have won a pot totalling at LEAST a buyin (had a set vs. HUGE donk and it got to the river in which he was calling huge bets on flop/turn) and then river I have to restart my comp. I get back to the table to see that he has won the pot because of my misfortune. Then, I made a huge mistake on a flop vs. a maniac. This cost me at LEAST 1/3 of a buyin because I had a chance to draw to the nuts but had to fold. If I hit, pretty sure I get his stack. So that's like at least $70 lost right there. THAT said, I am up 3 buyins today. Feels pretty good. That's like 5 buyins in the past 800 or so hands which is a small sample, but I'm ok with it. I'm knocking on wood because I am reverting back to a few key concepts one of my coaches told me awhile ago. I remember playing the way he told me too which gained nice profits but for some reason I decided to ignore his thoughts and try something else for awhile. So here's to using his advice for the next 5k hands (I have a little less than that to get to 20k hands this month). I am really hoping I'm not just running good.

disconnects suck...

Originally Posted by kmind

THAT said, I am up 3 buyins today. Feels pretty good.

ja!

Originally Posted by kmind

I am reverting back to a few key concepts one of my coaches told me awhile ago. I remember playing the way he told me too which gained nice profits but for some reason I decided to ignore his thoughts and try something else for awhile.

interested in sharing those few key concepts ?

It's ridiculously stupid and VERY basic that you'll think I am lying but:
- we are usually ahead of wide ranges so betting into them should amount to a lot of folds

- conversly, when they have a tight range we are usually behind and we want to see as many cards as possible

These are straight from PMs with my coach.

Obviously, you adjust to these concepts when you have bluffs/nuts and play accordingly. There are a few other concepts but this was the gist of it and I guess it'd make more sense if you watched this person use this stuff in game which really helps. It's basically ISF stuff to its core(who is the coach I am talking about anyways) as in his theorem, other theory posts, etc.

Nah man, this is what you've been waiting for. The whole flip side of running bad is it comes back eventually. Play it well and crush!

{Will update progress since the start of thread being the 500th post - tomorrow}

Villain is std. 50NL tag who steals a lot. TBH, I didn't 3bet because he folds a lot to them. How bad do you think this is? Not just preflop. Should I ever just be calling his flop bet? He has a straight a lot more often than two pair or a set. AA I guess he could have but I would think that's rare to want to get it in after the action.


Full Tilt Poker Game #9139015721: Table Holmes (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:34:40 ET - 2008/11/24
Seat 1: frowdiggs22 ($52)
Seat 2: wakerider09 ($41.70)
Seat 3: SuitsUs ($61.15)
Seat 4: akcbr954 ($50.75)
Seat 5: Shaba7 ($104.35)
Seat 6: Stunna7 ($43.75)
wakerider09 posts the small blind of $0.25
SuitsUs posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SuitsUs [Kd Kh]
akcbr954 folds
Shaba7 folds
Stunna7 folds
frowdiggs22 raises to $1.75
wakerider09 folds
SuitsUs calls $1.25
*** FLOP *** [Jd Qh Kc]
SuitsUs checks
frowdiggs22 bets $2.75
SuitsUs raises to $12
frowdiggs22 has 15 seconds left to act
frowdiggs22 raises to $30
SuitsUs raises to $59.40, and is all in
frowdiggs22 calls $20.25, and is all in

that's a hefty flop raise

dont hate flatting PF esp. if you've been screwing around with him on a lot of flops.

Originally Posted by bigspenda73

that's a hefty flop raise

Yeah, I was debating the size. Then I was like wtf he can have some much shit that I beat so I'll pot it.

Or it's FullTilt so all I have to do is just click a button.

Yaah the raise is a bit big, maybe to $10ish is ok, but the rest is fine.

I 3bet pre like 90+% here but don't mind mixing it up once in awhile. Always raising (maybe not quite this big) and stacking off on the flop. I think you're even and possibly ahead of his range since it includes QQ/JJ for sure and maybe KQ/QJ.

I am trying to get ALL my hands onto the same database from two computers but I have to leave this computer and won't be back until at least a few days so might as well post two graphs just to kind of prove things to Griff and show my progess. HEM is tilting me hard right now. Really thought I lost all my hands in my database.






Pretty happy considering I was breaking even at the first part of the month. After about hand 3400 is when I started going back to a much better style of play imo. The times when I was losing after hand 3400 were mainly me just running bad and either not hitting huge draws or losing 70%+ equity hands so can't complain.

Will post my other graph/hands on my other computer tonight as well with a month summary and hopefully will find time to update the 500th thread post I have been meaning to edit.

I'm a fucking idiot and thought I played 2k more hands this month. I play on two different computers since I have to be at my apartment as well as my parents' house off and on and I left my apartment thinking I played 13k hands when I only played 11k. This leaves me with 19k hands played this month and a loss of a prop bet with Griff. Griff was very kind enough to allow me to only pay half which I am embarrassed about. Here's the whole results:



So as you can see my won money without showdown went wayyyyyy downhill as the month went on but I also started winning a lot more. I think this has to do with playing a very weaker/tighter style that produced less variance and relied on playing pots primarily with the fish IP as opposed to the regulars. I also understand that this shouldn't be right completely and I am missing out a ton on some crucial spots.

Here are some things I learned this month:
1. Never ever underestimate the value of having fish sitting to your right.
2. Leave when the table gets filled with semi-decent regs, it's just not worth it to win the ego war.
3. After playing a short session and you find youself having lost money that has nothing to do with bad play/tilt, recollect yourself and continue to play more hands as long as rules 1 and 2 apply.
4. Playing tighter preflop, at least how I have been playing, causes less variance but most likely causes you to miss out on value in other spots. I need to find a medium.

Lol, you're coming back to my (well my usual not right now) style of play .

That rakeback line doesnt apply to your winnings? i.e., you won approx $500 and earnt about $750 rakeback?

yo Kmizzle i heard you were planning to get a computer

dude get a dell (studio 17, big, damn nice, and cheap)

Ben - nope . I won like $750 including rakeback. But I mean half of the month I was playing a lot worse so I will take it.

Jack - check your PMs

Wow - I am an idiot AGAIN. I did my filters/whatever wrong and I DID make my goal of 20k hands and I wasn't crazy thinking I played more hands than I did. Whew!! This is a $100 mistake that I am VERY glad I figured out. Still feel like a douche though, sorry griff, much love. Also shows more than 2 more buyins won and rakeback will increase as well. Actually just checked and I made virtually $250 in rakeback making my total of this month about $950.

Man, so close to a $1k month, and at 50nl. That rocks man. Your win rate wasnt even that high. Crush Dec!!

Thanks man. Don't think that Dec. will get anywhere near $1k. Really trying to take the pussy/safe route and focus more on the end of the semester and friends and family. Will be taking a bit out of the ole' roll though

I could quote my last entry. Definitely not going to be near $1k this month. I played maybe 400 hands. Totalling like $300 though which is goot. I flip good mainly ($100 from playing wrecklessly in FTR games).

I just ended my semester - 4 Bs and one class has yet to announce grades but it will 99% be an A or B and 75% chance it's an A. Not sure how I pulled that off considering how infrequently I spend my time studying/actually attending class/etc. Also, been spending a lot of time with my family and friends.

I leave for home for good probably Thursday (awaiting a package from FullTilt for my headphones) and will have a month of freedom. I already got my big present early which is a new Dell computer (thank you all who voted for Dell when I asked advice) and it's pretty sick for what I want it to do. The only problem is that I am still computer retarded and cannot figure out how to set up wireless internet with it. And yes, I did buy a wireless card for it. Because of this, I WANT to sweat/talk poker a whole lot during my break. I cannot and do not want to let my spare time go to waste. Pleasssssssse sweat with me and make sure I stick to these goals. I also got 3 books from PS a few weeks ago which I may have already mentioned in another post so I hope to read at least one of them because I get so distracted and finishing a book is a major accomplishment for myself. The books are The Mathematics of Poker, No-Limit Theory and Practice and Professional No-Limit Holdem. I need to actually start reading not only these books but every other poker book I have.

Congrats on grades, computer and vacation. Theory & Practice is such a good book, I've read it like 3 times at least.

Thanks zook!

Full Tilt Poker Game #9537177630: Table Gecko (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 3:10:38 ET - 2008/12/17
Seat 1: DtPres ($11.40)
Seat 2: Longman710 ($60.10)
Seat 3: canuckchris ($59.45)
Seat 4: SuitsUs ($67.90)
Seat 6: brmini04me ($52.90)
canuckchris posts the small blind of $0.25
SuitsUs posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SuitsUs [5s 2s]
brmini04me folds
DtPres calls $0.50
Longman710 calls $0.50
canuckchris calls $0.25
SuitsUs checks
*** FLOP *** [Ts 2c 5c]
canuckchris checks
SuitsUs bets $2
DtPres folds
SuitsUs has reconnected
SuitsUs has requested TIME
SuitsUs raises to $26
Longman710 raises to $46
canuckchris has 15 seconds left to act
canuckchris calls $40
SuitsUs raises to $67.40, and is all in
Longman710 calls $13.60, and is all in
canuckchris calls $12.95, and is all in
SuitsUs shows [5s 2s]
Longman710 shows [Kc Ac]
canuckchris shows [4d 3d]
Uncalled bet of $7.80 returned to SuitsUs
*** TURN *** [Ts 2c 5c] [Th]
*** RIVER *** [Ts 2c 5c Th] [8s]
SuitsUs shows two pair, Tens and Fives
Longman710 shows a pair of Tens
SuitsUs wins the side pot ($1.30) with two pair, Tens and Fives
canuckchris shows a pair of Tens
SuitsUs wins the main pot ($175.85) with two pair, Tens and Fives
Longman710 is sitting out
canuckchris adds $50
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $180.15 Main pot $178.85. Side pot $1.30. | Rake $3
Board: [Ts 2c 5c Th 8s]
Seat 1: DtPres folded on the Flop
Seat 2: Longman710 (button) showed [Kc Ac] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 3: canuckchris (small blind) showed [4d 3d] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 4: SuitsUs (big blind) showed [5s 2s] and won ($177.15) with two pair, Tens and Fives
Seat 6: brmini04me didn't bet (folded)

That was sweet. First dude who raised me was really aggro towards me so thought he had an even worse hand then what he ended up with. I just AK < 55 vs. an unknown on an KcTc5s board . HEM is saying only up like $23 though this session but thought for sure a lot more. Sigh. Definitely lost like $30 "making sure my reads were right" because I haven't played in awhile. Basically that just means me calling river shit seeing that they never really do bluff.

Going to get a coaching session done tomorrow. Should be fun!

Ok wait wtf HEM doesn't have the HH displayed above. How does that happen and how do I get it in there? I just did auto-import and it said no new files. I played at that table for a few more orbits.

Define "making sure my reads were right." Is that a clever way of saying I knew I should have folded but I didn't?

Originally Posted by bigred

Define "making sure my reads were right." Is that a clever way of saying I knew I should have folded but I didn't?

Basically me saying "I really don't care about the money, I BET HE HAS AJ HERE LOL!!" and then he insta shows I was right and my ego goes up. BR goes down though.

So yeah, if I can get my PokerStars HH and somehow get my last hand I posted into HEM I'll have a sick winrate haha. But yeah I just need to play more.

About to get coaching.

GL man. Been away for a few days, and only home for 2 then away again. From about the 27th though I should be home and have plenty of time on my hands. Definately up for some sweat sessions.

Niiiice. I just went on a quick life tilt as I was trying to hook up my router and ruined my family's internet connection. They were mad ld0 but I was pissed because that meant no poker, no werewolf and no coaching sessions with zook for awhile as he leaves for vacation and then comes back to a real job .

I also have been wanting my Christmas break to jumpstart my poker "career" or whatever because I shouldn't have to withdrawl for awhile due to Christmas money and living with my parents because I'm obviously down like $250 paying for like half of my computer/my Christmas present. Here's to me somehow getting my router to work and me making monies.

Oh yeah, at least I got to basically finish Professional No-Limit.

Good luck with the jump start!

I'm in colorado for the week, visiting my mom. I gotta decide if I want to tell my mom or not while I'm here... hmm so might not play this week!

have an awesome xmas dude, fix the net! imo

Grifffffffffffffff such a tough decision. I can semi-relate. My parents don't know much about me playing either except that they now accept it and I pay for stuff now because of it. I think in your case you may have to keep it a secret still unfortunately. I can see my parents going apeshit but seems like yours would go 5 levels higher...at least your mom. Good luck with that man.

Hope you get on MSN a lot this break. ALSO LET'S SWEAT! Have a Great Christmas!!

Originally Posted by kmind

Hope you get on MSN a lot this break. ALSO LET'S SWEAT! Have a Great Christmas!!

Yah dude.. I'll be on msn quite a bit. Colorado is boring sometimes!

Ok computer is a go now so everyone sweat weeee yayyyyy