Jack's Road to Maturity

NH

yeah, its all about the long term. Over short term, luck is king; but in the long term, luck is replaced by skill.

Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer

NH

yeah, its all about the long term. Over short term, luck is king; but in the long term, luck is replaced by skill.

we need to get some kind of compilation post going in the beginner's circle or something showing stuff like that...moderate chunks of hands played by the same player in a relatively short period of time (as in not long enough for their game to change radically) with extremely different looking stats/results. i think this is one of the most important realizations for beginners.

how did you do today jack?

~+$25 as of right now, I'm still playing, and I think you are right on

Originally Posted by kmind

No more limping HU and change to 6-max and you'll do fine!!

No but seriously, you are doing a really good job. Keep it (as well as your avatar) up!

TNX, I will

I haven't bluffed in a while


Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

Button (t1940)
SB (t1590)
BB (t1010)
UTG (t2540)
Hero (t1310)
MP1 (t2020)
MP2 (t1210)
MP3 (t1970)
CO (t1410)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with , .
1 fold, Hero raises to t105, 1 fold, MP2 calls t105, 3 folds, SB calls t90, 1 fold.

Flop: (t345) , , (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t170, MP2 folds, SB calls t170.

Turn: (t685) (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t200, SB calls t200.

River: (t1085) (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t835 (All-In), SB folds.

Final Pot: t250



You need reads for this kind of shit

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP2 (t2370)
CO (t3810)
Button (t1170)
SB (t1810)
Hero (t1770)
UTG (t2180)
MP1 (t1890)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
UTG raises to t200, MP1 calls t200, 4 folds, Hero calls t100.

Flop: (t650) , , (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 bets t650, Hero raises All-IN, UTG folds, MP1 calls All-IN.

Turn: (t1950) (2 players)

River: (t1950) (2 players)

Final Pot: t1950

Results in white below:
Hero has 4d 4h (one pair, fours).
MP1 has 3h As (one pair, threes).
Outcome: Hero wins t1950.

tourney hh's? OMG MY EYES!

LOL, and I got more!

tourney table chatter

(some guy berates me for getting an A-high flush on the river, next hand I bust the other bigstack out then with 88 vs AJs)

JackSawyer: i guess he wasn't a DONK then
JackSawyer: which is why I could bust him, I'm a donk that only busts good players
emmser_23: it was a race man
JackSawyer: really? to where?

Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer

Yeah, I have about

$500 cash
$300 in UB bonuses I have to release
$75 in stars bonus pending
$215 in tourney $

and don't worry, the avatar will last for at least a week maybe more

first-up, good news on the avatar!

isn't the UB bonus quite hard to clear at low limits? Couldn't this take a while? If your deal is better than below then I'll be asking you for the details in a few weeks

Must earn 10 Ultimate Points for each $1 in bonus money


Ultimate Points are earned when contributing to the pot when the rake reaches certain levels:
Ultimate Points Awarded:

Rake UltimatePoints
$0.50-$3.00 0.50
$0.25-$0.45 0.25
$0.05-$0.20 0.10

some back of the envelope calculations. I'll round all the estimates up and compensate by ignoring pots raked above $0.20

Fullring $10NL, VPIP 25 (some of this is from the blinds), and two blinds per orbit contributing to pot = contributing about 4/10 hands. Say 3/4 hands the pot reaches $1 and is raked (very high estimate! but I know your pre-flop raises are always called), so you're contributing to raked hands 3/10 hands dealt.
so 333 hands dealt = 10 points = $1 cleared in rake.
so to clear $300 you need to play 300x333 hands = 100k hands...

Hmm, its contributed rake, right? I expected dealt.
It might be harder to clear than I initially thought. Well, no matter, slowly but surely I'll clear it.


(100k hands? might keep me busy until the next millenium. and I always keep using reload bonus, since I get no RB (wouldn't matter anyway,. you only get RB on cash games, I exclusively play sng's on UB). Oh well)


I think I'll have to play some 25NL+ to clear it at some point. I hope its a fish fest.

a) Bonus released as points are accumulated.

b) taking part of the "Ultimate Bet Points to Cash" program you can receive up to $0.0075 per point.

c) NOTE: At UB if you are the 1st person to join a table, you earn 25% extra UB points

d) Rakeback of 30% is available

a) means you'll find out pretty quickly what the bonus clear rate is
b) means nothing
c) is kinda like being a prop, but less lucrative
d) guess you got that sorted...

ya ub bonus sucks at low limits and it is def no fish fest. jack you are non-us right? if so, have you looked into the ongame sites yet? back when i was grinding a bankroll a year ago the ongame network was a goldmine (in bonus terms and soft game terms). i haven't checked but if they are still doing things the same then it's almost impossible to be playing without a bonus there.

I'm gonna check out Ongame.
RB and PT support are no problem there, right?

Pokerroom and PKR are different sites?

LOL they are, nice autolinks

I'm checking those out. Lemme grind my roll up SNG style first


And so far UB has been a full-on fishfest for me. + their SNG structures are really friendly for me. I'm killing them over there, if it ain't broke I'm sure as hell not gonna fix it


Today, I'm gonna make accounts to get rakeback everywhere. I'll use silverrakeback.com, rakemeback.com, and raketherake.com as processors. You guys have experience with these processors? What risk is there that a processor may go belly-up?
And I couldn't get rakeback on my Bodog account. Oh well, that one will only be used for Sunday NFL games now I guess.

How about the Boss Network?



Also, iBluff @ micro Omaha

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.05 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

UTG ($6.24)
MP ($7.37)
CO ($2.94)
Button ($15.44)
SB ($10.75)
Hero ($16.12)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , , , .
UTG raises to $0.17, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.12.

Flop: ($0.36) , , (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.36, Hero calls $0.36.

Turn: ($1.08) (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $1.03, Hero raises to $2.06, UTG calls $1.03.

River: ($5.20) (2 players)
Hero bets $1.25, UTG folds.

Final Pot: $5.20

Results in white below:
Hero has 6c Qc 6d Jd (one pair, sixes).
Outcome: Hero wins $5.20.

lol @ your omaha hand

i dunno about boss. i just know ongame rivals all others as the fishiest network around and there are a bunch of skins too. so have you just been playing sng's or what? if so, then i can understand ub being a fish fest. low limit sng's are fish fests pretty much everywhere. as far as rb goes...i believe that thisisthenuts (i use them and can verify that they have great customer service) and raketherake are the 2 largest rb providers. there used to be a big rb review site but i can't find it on google anymore.

OMG Jack,

You could be playing on Ongame?! What are you waiting for: GO GO GO!

BTW: How many Gigs of those pictures have you got left on your harddrive? Wait, I suddenly realise how you get so many views on your operation, lol.

Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer

Yeah, I have about

$500 cash
$300 in UB bonuses I have to release
$75 in stars bonus pending
$215 in tourney $
and I'm not selling those T$, they were the first I got, they have some sentimental value

Just a bit more grinding... I'm confident I can double the cash bit in a week

After the tilt episode, I came back a changed man. My game changed, dramatically improving.
All I can say is I'm happy it happened to me on such a lower level, and I hope I've taken enough measures to ensure it will never happen again.


I even got PT Omaha

and don't worry, the avatar will last for at least a week maybe more

i have 14k in UB bonuses. That shit needs deleting.

Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer

Hmm, its contributed rake, right? I expected dealt.
It might be harder to clear than I initially thought. Well, no matter, slowly but surely I'll clear it.


(100k hands? might keep me busy until the next millenium. and I always keep using reload bonus, since I get no RB (wouldn't matter anyway,. you only get RB on cash games, I exclusively play sng's on UB). Oh well)


I think I'll have to play some 25NL+ to clear it at some point. I hope its a fish fest.

you need a slap if you havent moved from stars after reaching $500

Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer

Today, I'm gonna make accounts to get rakeback everywhere. I'll use silverrakeback.com, rakemeback.com, and raketherake.com as processors. You guys have experience with these processors? What risk is there that a processor may go belly-up?.

I recommend holding off dude. Open the accounts as and when you start using them - otherwise you'll miss out on some bonuses.

Raketherake are the only one I've used so far - and I have nothing but praise for them. Look at Rakebrain as well, and playing as a prop. oh, I'd pm silu for advice about rakeback and bonuses for ongame.
chur.

K guys, thanx for all the advice, I'll be making my account at tower.
I already put the monies in moneybookers. I just have to see RB and some other niceties




PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.05 BB (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

Hero ($13.77)
SB ($22.92)
BB ($13.46)

Preflop: Hero is Button with , , , .
Hero calls $0.05, SB raises to $0.2, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.15.

Flop: ($0.45) , , (2 players)
SB bets $0.45, Hero calls $0.45.

Turn: ($1.35) (2 players)
SB bets $1.3, Hero raises to $2.6, SB raises to $9.1, Hero raises to $13.12, SB calls $4.02.

River: ($27.59) (2 players)

Final Pot: $27.59

Results in white below:
SB has 3d 8h Ad 8c (flush, ace high).

Outcome: Hero wins $27.59.

sweet action 1500 hand session and i'm up 0.75! woo hoo! prob made about $7.50 in rb though lol. here's today's fun hand...

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $9.55
Hero: $11.35
Button: $2.60
SB: $11.75
BB: $14

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with 5 5
UTG calls, Hero calls, 2 folds, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: 3 2 5 ($0.35, 3 players)
BB is all-in $13.9, UTG folds, Hero calls all-in $11.25.
Uncalled bets: $2.65 returned to BB.

Turn: 7 ($22.85, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $22.85)


River: 2 ($22.85, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $22.85)


Results:
Final pot: $22.85
Hero showed
BB showed

WOW
he really really wanted that 35 cent pot


crap i'm struggling to find a decent username for use on tower, jack sawyer is already taken

Weeeeeeeeeee, I'm on tower


goodness, I thought you guys were joking. I've seen bad play before, but this is crazy



Anybody know how to get the HH's?

Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer

Weeeeeeeeeee, I'm on tower


goodness, I thought you guys were joking. I've seen bad play before, but this is crazy



Anybody know how to get the HH's?

im so effing jealous of you non-americans!!! i want my precious ongame back NOW!

Originally Posted by martindcx1e

Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer

Weeeeeeeeeee, I'm on tower


goodness, I thought you guys were joking. I've seen bad play before, but this is crazy



Anybody know how to get the HH's?

im so effing jealous of you non-americans!!!

QFT, martin.

Originally Posted by martindcx1e

Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer

Weeeeeeeeeee, I'm on tower


goodness, I thought you guys were joking. I've seen bad play before, but this is crazy



Anybody know how to get the HH's?

im so effing jealous of you non-americans!!! i want my precious ongame back NOW!

Come to AP, it's donktastic over here

in case anyone was wondering, this is how not to play kings

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $3.90
UTG+1: $12.80
MP1: $9.85
MP2: $10.10
Hero: $15.95
Button: $1.85
SB: $9.45
BB: $15.10

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is CO with 2 2
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, Hero calls, 2 folds, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: 2 8 5 ($0.45, 4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets $0.45, Hero raises to $1.2, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: 7 ($2.85, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $1.3, UTG+1 raises all-in $11.5, Hero calls.

River: Q ($25.85, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $25.85)


Results:
Final pot: $25.85
UTG+1 showed :Kd: :Kc:
Hero showed

LOL


+$60 today

if I can average $100 daily, I think I could start doing this fulltime, beats any job I've had

only two mistakes today. called down with q-high flush in omaha, and 3-barrell bluff against calling station in PL holdem

that was a really bad KK. love dem dummies.

and, i agree that AP is donkeyland.

Jack, if you want easy money, load up AP. sit at the 10NL tables. and buy in for 200 bb's. keep the money on your right, and CASH IN.

play 25NL, if you want to, but for $20, there are more donkeys at 10NL, and they buy in deep more regularly than at 25NL, imo.

i jumped to a 50NL last night at AP...for the flop %'s, and EVERYBODY was buying in short. it was sad. looked at the 10's and they were all deep.

oh, and the 10's are a lot more willing to stack off light. if you are looking for soft games, the 10's at AP are where i sit in US evenings.

I'm playing the deepstacked 10NL, though I refer to it as 20NL. Were you playing at BBJ tables? That would explain why so many people were buying in short.

yes. and i suspected that would be the case. but, i am also working off a reload, and wanted to see how it affects my RB acct.

for strictly profit, you cant beat the deepstacked 10's.

I'll be there shortly, in about 20 days. About the time I need to clear the tower bonus. I'll be well over $1,000 then hopefully


Some asshole was going around and taking my name at all those poker sites. If somebody pretends to be me, the only original JackSawyer is the one at UB. At every other poker site, my username differs greatly.


One site that pleasantly surprised me is PKR.com. It's like a fucking videogame, very enjoyable and full of fish. Too bad I can't deposit the $2000 to take the full +100% depo bonus home

dude. Check Empire. More free money, I didn't get an e-mail but check my account there occasionally.

Yeah, I saw that. Couldn't get there in time. I was clearing a tower bonus.
That said, I haven't had a chance to play for the last few days. I was pretty tired. Lets see if I can make something out of it today.


Here we go

God I love PKR

The interface is genuinely slick, the fish abound, I got rakeback, no PT support (hence no PAHUD bots) and a 100% match signup bonus up to $2000.

I hope I can reach $2k soon. That is my next immediate goal.

Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer

God I love PKR

The interface is genuinely slick, the fish abound, I got rakeback, no PT support (hence no PAHUD bots) and a 100% match signup bonus up to $2000.

I hope I can reach $2k soon. That is my next immediate goal.

think you will beat me to $2k, not getting many hands in at the moment. PKR questions:
What are the bonus clear conditions? how long you got to do it?
How resource hungry is the software? (I'm on a 4year old dog of a laptop)
How many tables can you play?

Deleted by myself

oh and grats jack on your success

Originally Posted by daven

Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer

God I love PKR

The interface is genuinely slick, the fish abound, I got rakeback, no PT support (hence no PAHUD bots) and a 100% match signup bonus up to $2000.

I hope I can reach $2k soon. That is my next immediate goal.

think you will beat me to $2k, not getting many hands in at the moment. PKR questions:
What are the bonus clear conditions? how long you got to do it?
How resource hungry is the software? (I'm on a 4year old dog of a laptop)
How many tables can you play?

It is very resource hungry. I'm on a relatively new laptop though, no problems. I love the fact that you get to shape your avatar (geeky, I know) and clothe your alter ego much like yourself.

Word of caution:

PKR $2,000 Bonus Offer Details

Since PKR usually has a deposit limit of $800 per day, you have to get that raised in order to take advantage of the $2,000 bonus.

To claim your $2,000 bonus, you have to follow these instructions:

Email [email protected] with the following information:

A scanned copy of your drivers license or passport, used for age and identity verification.

A copy of the front and back of the credit card that you're planning on using to deposit at PKR. For your own security PKR recommends that you block from view the central 8 digits of the card, and the 3 digit security code located on the back of the card.

A copy of a utility bill or a card statement showing your full name and current postal address.

Once you've collected that info, you also need to specify what you want your new daily, weekly, and monthly deposit limits to be. Make sure your daily limit is at least $2,000 to cover the maximum bonus opportunity.

Once you've taken care of all that, you're good to go.

These are the terms for the $600 bonus. Its released in 1 chunk. I can only assume the $2000 is also released like that, with similar temrs. It isn't written anywhere on their pages, to assume how long I'd have to grind.

Code:

Terms and conditions
(1) This bonus is only available to new PKR real money customers making their first deposit. First deposit must be $250 or more. (2) A maximum of $600 will be paid out in bonuses. (3) You must use the bonus code of PKR03 when depositing. (4) Only one bonus per household. (5) To qualify for the bonus, you must accumulate 225 PKR Points for each $1 of bonus before the bonus is credited to your account. Only PKR Points accumulated through participation in raked hands and real money tournaments will count towards clearing the bonus. Any PKR points earned through PKR Point tournaments, ring games or grants or gifts do not qualify for releasing the bonus. (6) You must earn the required PKR Points within 60 days of making your qualifying deposit. (7) When you reach the required number of PKR Points, the bonus will automatically be credited to your PKR account. (8) Partial bonuses will not be awarded.

You can get up to 150 points in one hand.


From what I can deduce, you can play up to 4 tables at once. But the slick part is, these are logically laid out in a manner I can't explain, hang on, I'll post a screenshot. My computer is hanging right now, I'll update this post later

And also remember you then have to input the bonus code.

Originally Posted by martindcx1e

oh and grats jack on your success

tnx m8, and also hang in there, you already know the MO

we'll all be done with microNL soon enough

So, what's your sn on tower?

I just spoke to a PKR rep
You'd need 500,000 PKR points to clear the $2K bonus.

Its released in one chunk. I think it expires after 60 days.

You can get a max amount of 150 points per hand. Also, 100 point is awarded for every $1 in tournament fees.

That's a hell of a lot of grindin'. For 2K, a roll double up, I can see myself grinding 50NL there for 15K hands.

Originally Posted by Flups

So, what's your sn on tower?

ok im done whining in your op jack...sorry man

Originally Posted by martindcx1e

ok im done whining in your op jack...sorry man

np m8. whine anytime. I whine here too



this is how multi PKR looks like


in action (+ the PKR song, catchy)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIs7MlrUXwA

nice rakeback + bonus thingy I didn't catch previously (i signed up through silver)
http://www.pkrfriends.com/articles/p...-rakeback.html

Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer

Originally Posted by Flups

So, what's your sn on tower?

Come on, I might have stacked ya allready and not even know it... (or the other way around)

LOL, if we meet you'll know


Errors today:
I have to vbet this bitch, wtf am I checking for?

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.05 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP ($7.82)
CO ($5.45)
Button ($6.97)
SB ($18.41)
BB ($10)
Hero ($20.11)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6, 8, A, A.
Hero raises to $0.17, MP calls $0.17, CO calls $0.17, Button calls $0.17, 1 fold, BB calls $0.12.

Flop: ($0.87) 3, K, 6 (5 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.6, MP calls $0.60, CO folds, Button folds, BB folds.

Turn: ($2.07) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks.

River: ($2.07) K (2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks.

Final Pot: $2.07

Results in white below:
Hero has 6h 8c Ah Ad (two pair, aces and kings).

Outcome: Hero wins $2.07.

Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer

That's a hell of a lot of grindin'. For 2K, a roll double up, I can see myself grinding 50NL there for 15K hands.

yeah, I checked it out. Clear $1 in bonus for every $1.50 contributed in rake, so 66% rakeback... not sure how it affects rakeback eligibility, I'll find out before I go there.
Anyway, looks like I will head that way when I buy a new 'puta. Shame about the multi-tabling limits. if your reasoning is right then 6-tabling 6-max at 100hands/hr that should take just under 30hrs, = >$60/hr (excluding poker profit!) 4-tabling still less than 40hrs so sounds worthwhile.
For good info on bonus clearing etc check out bonus whores. And figure out the numbers BEFORE signing up anywhere (note to self )

If you are talking about river, I don't think that's a vbet. Seems like he either has a K or draw which missed. But I suck at Omaha/any form of poker. I'm not seeing much you beat that he calls with on the river. Turn I would bet though.

Yup, turn. I don't know what he had, but I'm guessing 99% FD


daven: yeah, it is good. doubling up 2 grand is always nice!

Hand of the day:


PokerStars Game #12707896101: Tournament #64475421, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (600/1200) - 2007/10/18 - 20:07:44 (ET)
Table '64475421 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: stupidkid888 (20145 in chips)
Seat 2: mr_am_no (37668 in chips)
Seat 5: mclaughlin04 (42735 in chips)
Seat 6: Avi_Tristan (30094 in chips)
Seat 8: LER4T (55154 in chips)
Seat 9: cellmax (84204 in chips)
stupidkid888: posts the ante 125
mr_am_no: posts the ante 125
mclaughlin04: posts the ante 125
Avi_Tristan: posts the ante 125
LER4T: posts the ante 125
cellmax: posts the ante 125
mclaughlin04: posts small blind 600
Avi_Tristan: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Avi_Tristan [Ac Ad]
LER4T: folds
cellmax: raises 2400 to 3600
stupidkid888: folds
mr_am_no: calls 3600
mclaughlin04: folds
Avi_Tristan: raises 6000 to 9600
cellmax: folds
mr_am_no: raises 6000 to 15600
Avi_Tristan said, "i have chips now, dont **** with me!"
Avi_Tristan: raises 14369 to 29969 and is all-in
mr_am_no: calls 14369
*** FLOP *** [8d Kd 2s]
*** TURN *** [8d Kd 2s] [6c]
*** RIVER *** [8d Kd 2s 6c] [Ks]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Avi_Tristan: shows [Ac Ad] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
mr_am_no: shows [Jd Ah] (a pair of Kings)
Avi_Tristan collected 64888 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 64888 | Rake 0
Board [8d Kd 2s 6c Ks]
Seat 1: stupidkid888 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: mr_am_no (button) showed [Jd Ah] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 5: mclaughlin04 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Avi_Tristan (big blind) showed [Ac Ad] and won (64888) with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 8: LER4T folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: cellmax folded before Flop

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP1 (t1523)
MP2 (t2961)
MP3 (t14124)
Hero (t3906)
Button (t12349)
SB (t15538)
BB (t1821)
UTG (t11553)
UTG+1 (t3700)

Preflop: Hero is CO with , . UTG posts a blind of t200.
UTG+1 calls t200, 1 fold, MP2 calls t200, MP3 raises to t800, Hero raises to t3906, 1 fold, BB calls t1721 (All-In), 1 fold, UTG+1 calls t3500 (All-In), MP2 folds, MP3 calls t3106.

Flop: (t13733) , , (5 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (t13733) (5 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t13733) (5 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: t13733

Results in white below:
SB doesn't show.
BB has Ac Qc (one pair, queens).
UTG+1 has Tc Td (one pair, tens).
MP3 has Js Jh (one pair, jacks).
Hero has Kd As (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins t13733.

Ok


Things I picked up along the way;


-actual strategy doesn't matter, odds matter.
-experience prevails
-trust your gut instinct
-be aware (as Mad Eye Moody would say: CONSTANT VIGILANCE!). be aware 24/7 at the table.
-fold is your best friend
-bet/fold is your next best friend (this one costed me my second 4,40 180 FT in two straight days)
-you are the weakest link
-HUDs are for pussies
-slowplaying is for pussies
-don't fold (reasonable hands) in big pots [unless your gut instinct screams fold. then you fold]
-book the win (unless the game is reaaaaaaaly good)
-stop loss is unnecessary. just stop playing when your A-game abandons you
-don't regret getting your money in good ever
-don't berate others
-seriously, don't berate others for bad play
-respect others
-in a tourney, if you are ahead 2:1 early for a double up, take the chance
-find the maniacs, love the maniacs
-always mind discounts
-really, always mind discounts
-fold KJ. "Hey its sooooted". Shut up and fold it. "Hey, I would've had a royal flush!" Shut up and fold it. "Hey, its my favorite hand! My name is Krister Johansson!" Shut up and fold it, you idiot. The only way you gonna play this shit is with discounts.
-when some short stack pushes all in pf, someone cold-calls, don't ever raise the cold caller out if you don't have the rockets. Ever! Not with AK, not with AQ, not with motherfucking KK. Not EVER! This is practically the only NEVER EVER in all of poker.
-when your aces have been cracked by the umpteenth time, just sit back, relax, and fire up "Free Bird" by Lynyrd Skynyrd at full volume. Be sure to get this specific song
-sometimes, the right decision is not (may not seem like) the logical decision
-if you don't "feel like playing", don't
-don't chase bonuses for the bonuses sake. your game will suffer as a direct consequence
-do not count rakeback as profit. instead, do not think about rakeback at all (just be sure you are getting)
-leave "police-ing" to cops, you are not teh bluff patrol
-do everything in your power to feel comfortable in your home base
-don't be tight for the sake of being tight
-be like water. flow where you can flow, mind the blocks and carefully, slowly, erode them
-do not worry about your stats. worry about your play
-do not worry about your roll during a hand
-do not worry about your goals during a hand
-do not worry about your girlfriend during a hand
-do not worry about your dog during a hand
-luck exists, and it comes in streaks. so when someone is getting hit by the deck, you don't fuck with him, 'cause he'll take you down. conversely, when luck is hitting you, max it
-flop minraises= It 98% a flopped made hand, like a made flush/straight/fh/set, and 2% bluff. Really. Obviously, its nothing when the minraising villain always minraises.

im constantly updating this post, so be sure to look back once in a while

more later



POST# 987 weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer

-fold is your best friend
-bet/fold is your next best friend (this one costed me my second 4,40 180 FT in two straight days)
-HUDs are for pussies
-slowplaying is for pussies
-don't fold (reasonable hands) in big pots
-stop loss is unnecessary. just stop playing when your A-game abandons you

these are my favs

Someone explain the HUD for pussies argument please. How can this be a bad thing when you take notes on your opponents and have this as a bonus for your reads? I am really eager because if I hear valid points then I'll stop using it.

Quick answer: You'll become dependant. Your decisions are then going to be heavily distorted when you don't/can't have a hud. Try using it on Cake Poker (or in a live game)


I'll post a better answer when I'm back. Have to go to a party (my sis's birthday).

Thanks. Eagerly awaiting the more detailed response.

Here goes:


- You'll judge people by stats. You really don't need stats to see who's tight, who's weak, who's aggro, who's passive, whose nitty, who not to play a big pot against, who has it, who's bluffing etc.
- Playing with HUDs will decrease your ability to play without one (dependency)
- Certain HUD stats are clouded (specially the beloved reraise)
- Train your mind instead. This is really important for me, since I really want to go big in live poker.
- Your reads will suffer, since you can't trust them if the stats don't correspond
- People can manipulate stats to deceive you into calling (LAGS)
- Your reads will suffer, since you will start depending on HUD stats instead, and you will be giving less importance to your own (subconsciously)
- Generally, you'll feel unprepared and scared whenever in a situation in which a HUD isn't available
- Game selection is much, much, much more vital

The 1 statistic, which really is the most important one in all of online poker, is the "players per flop" number. And you know exactly what it stands for.


Take notes to remember wtf villain did in any given situation, but don;t rely on the numbers to tell you what to do. Rely on your play, his play and your reads.

Originally Posted by martindcx1e

Deleted by myself

Why did you delete it, Martin? Its fine if you leave it. We're friends, and friends help each other in good times AND in bad times.

I see your points but I think this is general assumptions. For me, personally, a HUD only adds to reads as I take notes all the time on villains.

Keep crushing man!

And I bubble again. Goddamn 4,40's!

I bubbled because I didn't listen to my gut-instinct. It screamed fold, but I had to push. Sure enough, AJo vs ATs (BUT THEY WERE SOOOOTED), T doesn't hit, and I'm out in 20-something. You guys may even check me out at officialpokerrankings.com to see that I'm not lying (second bubble in a row).

In other news, without counting UB bonuses (but counting tower and stars bonuses pending clearance), I think I'm $900 ish (+ $215 tourney dollars I still don't know what to do with).


I'll be playing lots of tourneys hereforward, with at least 1 $4,40 180 and the nightly $20K guaranteed daily.
I'll be freerolling in them (Only after I make the $15 daily I'll play).
I'll also try to sat my way into the $530 sunday million this week (again, freerolling into the sats).
Actually, anything I play (sng's, mtt's, sats, shootouts, whatever), I'll make the monies first with ring then play it

Obviously, I'll try to keep pwning micro omaha.

Things will get interesting this week.




Lets turn the volume up.


(POST #999! weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee)

Originally Posted by jack sawyer

Lets turn the volume up.

kill it dude!!
sounds like a load of variety to your games, careful
I've got a few thoughts on the HUD thing, I'll post them here once they make sense. I'm playing without on Pacific at the moment, after using it on the other sites.
Roll is still under $1.5k, but should be heading to full tilt for the $600 shortly. Just need to find time to get some hands in...

Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer

Originally Posted by martindcx1e

Deleted by myself

Why did you delete it, Martin? Its fine if you leave it. We're friends, and friends help each other in good times AND in bad times.

i just felt like i was focusing too much on it ya know?

Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer

(+ $215 tourney dollars I still don't know what to do with).

i know what to do with them

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, my dear and beloved readers and buddies...


I'm happy to announce I crossed the $1k mark (plus the 215 T$ martin knows what I should do with ), and fittingly, this also marks my 1k post.

I failed miserably HU in a 4,40 (despite being the shortstack literally the whole table), arrived HU with a 4:1 chip deficit and succumbed AK vs TT, ten made river set to my flopped two pair. It was a pf race, but if I call and apply FE, I can get him to lay the TT down on flop. Stupid me.

1 step closer to 2K. I'll post my cash game graphs later.

nice going jack. really cool man. hopefully within a couple weeks i'll be back on board at 25nl with about 25-30 buy-ins praying for some hands to hold up lol.

I think spots like this one where top pair (usually T or higher) pairs on the turn are great to bluff on since people don't normally check top pair on the flop, and even if they think I am bluffing they have to commit a lot of chips to find out. Thoughts?

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($9.05)
UTG+1 ($10.40)
MP1 ($10.85)
MP2 ($20.55)
LP ($5.45)
CO ($11.25)
Hero ($13.85)
SB ($9.90)
BB ($4.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 9 players) Hero is BTN
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.1 ($20.45), LP calls $0.1 ($5.35), 1 fold, Hero calls $0.1 ($13.75), 1 fold, BB checks ($3.90)

Flop: ($0.45, 4 players)
BB checks ($3.90), MP2 checks ($20.45), LP checks ($5.35), Hero checks ($13.75)

Turn: ($0.45, 4 players)
BB checks ($3.90), MP2 bets $0.45 ($20.00), 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.2 ($12.55)

Before bluffing, you have to analyze first if the pot is worth bluffing at.

While the spot is great to bluff, the pot is small enough that villain can give up without too much of a fight.


The key is in building a big pot first, then bluff the villain out. You need reads to know what ranges villain can lay down to what flops + turns (and rivers)

Congrats, Jack. Keep us posted, and do something with those tourney dollars FFS.

Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer

Before bluffing, you have to analyze first if the pot is worth bluffing at.

While the spot is great to bluff, the pot is small enough that villain can give up without too much of a fight.


The key is in building a big pot first, then bluff the villain out. You need reads to know what ranges villain can lay down to what flops + turns (and rivers)

you never bluff small pots? there's quite a lot of money to be made from picking up many small pots.

I only bluff at small pots to set up future plays, but the actual value of the pot is trivial for me (as in, if I expect to bluff and win the small pot). In fact, in omaha I bluff at small pots all the time, but only to set up the future plays, not intentionally to scoop up the current pot.

The smaller the pot the better your hand has to be to continue.

i'm not sure what you mean by bluffing only to set up future plays. if you mean that it helps you keep up an aggressive image i can agree with that, but to me that's a side effect. in the hand i posted i have to win the pot at least 58% of the time for the play to be +EV (i think i win much more often than that). shouldn't our decisions in each hand be guided by what is most +EV?

Bluff to set up future plays:

iBluff (like in the posted hand). villain calls. River goes check/ check. I show down K-high, villain shows down 9's with a Q kicker.

A few hands down the road, I flop a full house. I play with the exact same betting pattern, except this time I bet the hell out of that turn. He figures I did it once with a K-high (or an observant opponent who saw me bluffing in the previous hand), I am certainly capable of that again. We win a stack.



Its the only reason I would bluff in such a small pot (since its small, the size of my bluff is also small).


In general, I go after big pots. I don't bluff for the sake of winning the current pot. I bluff for the sake of winning 180+BB pots.

Well I guess it's just not possible for me to not run like absolute crap. I know I wasn't gonna whine anymore but I just went through an 11 buy-in downswing at 10NL. You'd think I'm the worst player ever. I just don't get it. I feel like a freaking psychic sometimes. I am so much better than these guys. I get these loser donkeys into the worst spots and they gladly try to give me their chips. Their terrible play being constantly rewarded combined with set under set 3 times = me losing $110 at 10NL. I really can't believe it. I'm at a loss for words.

EDIT: At least I might break even from rb this month. I'm still freaking pissed though!