How High Can You Get?

why did you not 4bet in H1?

why did you donk the turn in h2?

I'm generally not a fan of 4bet shoving unless there's a particular situation where I think it's beneficial such as:
- It's against a particularly low 3bet villain who I can put on KK/QQ exclusively
- I'm against a particularly good villain and want to take away post flop decisions

I just feel like my hand is face up many times and I lose value plus I feel obligated to have a 4bet bluff shoving frequency, which I'm not thrilled about.

On hand 2, I'm trying to get the money in and I feel like checking back will give villain a chance to pot control and check behind, which I think would be a good move with a lot of hands he could have that I'm trying to get value from: AA/KK/JJ/TT/99, KQ, and A8.

Originally Posted by Jason

I'm generally not a fan of 4bet shoving unless there's a particular situation where I think it's beneficial such as:
- It's against a particularly low 3bet villain who I can put on KK/QQ exclusively
- I'm against a particularly good villain and want to take away post flop decisions

I just feel like my hand is face up many times and I lose value plus I feel obligated to have a 4bet bluff shoving frequency, which I'm not thrilled about.

On hand 2, I'm trying to get the money in and I feel like checking back will give villain a chance to pot control and check behind, which I think would be a good move with a lot of hands he could have that I'm trying to get value from: AA/KK/JJ/TT/99, KQ, and A8.

4bet shoving would be bad yeah. I was referring to 4betting a normal amount.