You should NEVER open limp.
01-23-2007 01:13 AM
#151
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You should NEVER open limp. | |
01-23-2007 09:25 AM
#152
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01-23-2007 10:37 AM
#153
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No, push the flop, as played, fold the river. | |
01-28-2007 11:28 AM
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So, I took another shot. First time not so good, I droppped 3 buy ins and the variance (as seen by the graph) was too much. I wasn't playing my game. I was fearing the money, And thinking everybody had a monster just because they PSB the turn. Then I just started losing. After about 3000 hands I was done and went back to $20NL, killed it for all I had lost in the same night. I had $890 on prima so I pulled $650 to deposit for another bonus and possibly rakeback on another site (have nothing here) Leaving me $240. That was my last shot at $50 I was going to play it out. I basically gave up the money. Was going to play for the whole wad, no fear. I opened 3 tables and I think I played well. I had some bad plays, still have problems with betting lines, especially the 3 betting preflop. I need some work on the more aggressive styles that the villains play, like when to 3 bet, when 3 bet isn't AA, KK or QQ, firing second barrels, They will and I need to do it more. The fact that I'm re-raised post flop is not a made hand. | |
01-28-2007 11:57 PM
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So TJ, was your leak-fix for FullTilt $25NL to leave it entirely? I've recently moved there after being a winning $50NL player elsewhere, and I think I'm getting killed at FT $25NL. | |
01-29-2007 12:01 AM
#156
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Absolutely. I left $80 in bonus on the table. Even $10 NL was insane. Too agro and tight. I couldn't read them. I don't know how to beat Full tilt, and may not go back. My confidence there is shot. | |
01-31-2007 11:30 AM
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Would anybody be willing to work with me to acheive the next level or two. I can be available from 8pm or so till 12pm EST4 of 5 nights and weekend evenings for up to 6 or 7 hours if need be. I will work out details if any are interested, depending on the level of involvement (HH's or rail)and success. I would be paying by poker bankroll, so my success would be necassary to be reimbursed. I can really use a little help with climbing the ranks, I'm willing to rail, read and or sit thru grueling verbal abuse when I fuck up. I'm sitting right now with $1100 or so and would like to get to $100NL by end of march, and $200NL is targetl. To be honest, my goal is to cushion myself to quit this job. I want to make a career change and need some financial means to keep the credit in check while retooling my situation. | |
01-31-2007 03:08 PM
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lol when I first went to FT I got murdered there. I actually became semi-affraid to play there. But I got stubborn and played more just to be able to adjust to a different playing field and beat it and I did. I'm mainly a prima player and I remember when I went to titan I got killed there too at first until I figured out everyone was weak-tight so I had to change gears from playing hands for value (like on prima) to playing hands for stealing tons of small pots. But on FT you can neither be exclusively weak/tight waiting for hands (because they won't pay you off and you'll get run over) nor can you play blindly aggressive and steal tons (because they'll play back at you) so you need to be more creative and get good reads. | |
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01-31-2007 11:24 PM
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Party has done everything to me to try to get me to quit poker. It drives me crazy. Last bonus I barely broke even, then empire actually cost me money by the time Neteller converted my cash to Canadian dollars. I since fixed the conversion problems and now this bonus comes along. I get a 20% up to $100 so I deposit $600. It's 1K raked hands, so I 4 table $25NL to play safe and just clear it quick. This is the road it took me down, 2 days of stress and real bad players. | |
02-01-2007 11:30 PM
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First night on Interpoker. Thought I would take it easy and play £25NL instead of $50NL. Wow. | |
02-02-2007 02:33 AM
#161
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ZOMG URT SO HOT RIGHT NOW | |
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02-05-2007 11:06 AM
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So I was playing Interpoker on friday at the start of our "Marathon session" . Great turn out by the way, chat room had, 12 or more people throughout the night. When the tables were breaking up faster than I could get to post the BB. So I took my $750 in Neteller, You guys remember Neteller right? I deposited it in Absolute. I was right into the deep stack 200BB poker, ready to kill it. I played till 3 a.m. about 1.2K hands of break even poker. First time I've done that on a new site. Usualy need to lose about 2 or 3 buy ins, while setting up my hud and getting used to the software. I played on the $25NL tables with $50 stack at each. Thinking I could play some Deep stack, monster hand poker. Nobody was at the max buy in though. Sure there are the Nits with 150 or 200BB, but they aren't letting that go without a fight. So I got some advice. | |
02-06-2007 12:47 AM
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When your playing bad, you just fight the stick. Nothing goes your way. You bet wrong, you read wrong. And I'm happy to have only lost $12 over 1,092 hands. | |
02-06-2007 06:48 AM
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edit: double post | |
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02-06-2007 06:49 AM
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02-06-2007 09:30 AM
#166
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My betting is just a function of trying new things. Sometimes they don't workout. On the JJ hand, I was trying to get him to comeover the top, on the flop, when he just called, I figured him for a str8 draw or flush draw. When the turn didn't hit I tried, bad play or not, to keep him in. He stayed. When The flush completed I expected him to show me that he hit his Draw. So when he only raised me 2x I thought maybe he had just hit TP or 2 pair, and the rest is just that. | |
02-06-2007 11:13 AM
#167
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Another question. Yea I play like shit, I get on heaters and think I'm good, but... Hang on, I'm getting ahead of myself. | |
02-06-2007 03:44 PM
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I would at least wait until you're at nl200 or 400 if you have to cash out around $1k-1.4k a week. Sooner or later you hit a breakeven stretch and you lose your bankroll. If you have rakeback, try to cash that out and then 2 weeks later make a matching cashout, that way you get "paid" bi-weekly and it should be around $1600-1800 every two weeks depending on how much you play.. but I would definitely wait until I was rolled for nl200 at the minimum. | |
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02-06-2007 04:03 PM
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The rakeback is something I'm considering as well. Yes, I would like to withdraw only every two weeks. I will have some cushion as I said, with proceeds from the sale of my house. My problem is, I would like to also build the roll while doing this. I can either commit a figure to the bankroll and withdraw what is left, or just pick a number to withdraw and everything else goes to the roll. | |
02-06-2007 04:31 PM
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Change your av | |
02-06-2007 04:37 PM
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50k hands at 100nl at FTP would be around $1250 IIRC. I'm not sure at Absolute since they changed their rake to "contributed" instead of generated or whatever it was before, so it cuts back about 1/3 of your RB, but I would say it'd be at like $1k (since it's 30% instead of FTP's 27%) | |
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02-06-2007 05:36 PM
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02-07-2007 08:45 AM
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Just a quick update. I like to bump my own thread. I changed the title again for now, let's see if it sticks. | |
02-07-2007 08:49 AM
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How is the nl50 game there? Passive or aggressive? I've heard it's a lot looser than FTP, how's the aggression? | |
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02-07-2007 09:28 AM
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It's fairly loose. Not hard to find tables at $50NL with stats in the 35+ VP$P and PFR% of around or under 10. If you practice table selection, and don't get married to tables, an easy game is always available. They are fairly aggressive around the flop, pre or post, But they settle down alot on the last two streets. Not to many are good at hiding their hands by then. It seems that basically, they are learning the next step of poker after preflop hand selection. Some are playing back post flop, reraising C-bets, C/R the flop. But that is all, I can take down alot of mid sized pots just by calling the reraise and firing again on the turn. I don't bluff much at all, there are enough stations that it will cost you, but there is money in TPTK type hands. One play they all seem to like is firing two mid sized barrels when they have draws. Then they check the river, if I bet out 1/2 PSB's with TP they don't call often. As for compared to FTP, AP's $100NL is easier than FTP's $10NL. No doubt about it. I played $100NL last night when I was up about $45. I told myself I would play 200 handsof my regular game, no reloads. If I lost 1/3 my stack I would quit the table. i left 1/4 tables before the 50 hands. I made another $50 total there. Not moving up yet but I wanted to see the game. 3 of 4 tables were in the 38/10 range, and alot of players with stats in the 30/10/1.2 range, with enough 50/5/1 players mixed in at midnight. I may take a small run on the drunken Friday/Saturday nights | |
02-07-2007 09:55 AM
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Awesome, thanks. I'm torn between the traffic/mtts of FTP and the looseness/reload bonuses of AP. How many people does AP get at late night (midnight - 7 am EST) on average? | |
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02-07-2007 10:17 AM
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I'd have to check. I'd be willing to bet it's about a third. There are easily 25 or 30, $50NL tables, and always 6 or 7 with 4 or 5 players, so getting seats aat full tables is easy. The only thing that sucks is datamining requires another program for $35. I like to do this before I move up in stakes. Maybe I invest, maybe not. But as to your question, I bet that even with less tabls to choose from, Any FTP winning player will make way more $$$ than you make at FTP. Playing the FTP $10NL game prepared me for the $50NL game at AP. | |
02-07-2007 10:21 AM
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02-10-2007 11:33 PM
#179
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Have you ever Just wanted to choke the fuck out of someone. I mean really choke the fuck out of someone. If my wife asks me how poker went last night, I may seriously harm her. | |
02-11-2007 12:22 AM
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Rough, I'm not sure if I'm supposed to offer comments or not, I don't feel like getting the piss choked out of me. | |
02-11-2007 05:13 AM
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Amen. There's a lot of spewage here. In each case the villain tipped the strength of his hand and you refused to believe him. I'm not saying don't raise, but when he plays back at you when an obvious hand (or more) is on the table, just call. You lost $32 on the JJ hand because you couldn't lay down/call with trip jacks on a board where almost any strong hand beats them. |
02-11-2007 12:29 PM
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Should the turn raise be more with the Q8 hand? Villian only bets 1/4 pot on the turn and you only 2.5X him. | |
02-14-2007 01:30 PM
#183
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hhhmmmm. last four days. | |
02-14-2007 01:59 PM
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nice results over the last few days. what are you doing, besides putting in hands, to help improve your game? | |
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02-14-2007 02:01 PM
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Wow! That's pretty impressive. And I thought my 10bb/100 on Pokerroom was good. | |
02-14-2007 02:16 PM
#186
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Sweet TJ. Keep it up. | |
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02-14-2007 05:23 PM
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Actually, I'm doing a few things. Nothing ground breaking. Bode, you asked | |
02-14-2007 06:07 PM
#188
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Dude, stop winning so much. I was gonna be at $50NL in like a week and wanted to pwn you a bit before you moved up to $100NL. Guess I'll have to gitty-up. | |
02-14-2007 06:27 PM
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Sick run man. Keep on grindin'! | |
02-14-2007 08:01 PM
#190
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Tell us the PF strat that gets you to 17.7/8.5 | |
02-14-2007 08:42 PM
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02-14-2007 08:45 PM
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Oh yea, if your going to start 3 betting, don't just three bet AA and KK, You need to open your range. Even the most stupid players "know 3 bets are AA and KK. It's such a different play than the "norm' that this does need to be hidden. | |
02-14-2007 11:18 PM
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Hey Trainer, | |
02-14-2007 11:39 PM
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02-15-2007 03:03 AM
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Your stats say you're openlimping 1/3 of your hands UTG. | |
02-15-2007 08:38 AM
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you seen it. You railed me last night. Would you not agree, that at some tables, against some players, it's absolutely unnecessary to play as aggressive as generally thought. I have tables with many Weak tight or Tight aggressive players that makes it imperative that you raise, to get the pot built, to drive out week hands and get HU, or to just set up a C-bet to take down a smaller pot. But after watching last night, would you not agree that getting into hands against some villains with deep stacks and playing post flop is more important than showing aggression early. | |
02-15-2007 10:09 AM
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02-15-2007 10:18 AM
#198
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First time you agreed with me in this whole 3 page thread. Must mean I'm coming along as a player, finally. | |
02-15-2007 01:22 PM
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Dude, don't think that my approval implies anything positive about your poker play, I'm a donk |
02-15-2007 01:49 PM
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02-15-2007 02:31 PM
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02-19-2007 02:57 PM
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THE END | |