DG's 200NL Attempt To Convert HHs

Okay i wanna play 100NL as a long term goal for this year. i think i can strive for this by setting up mini goals. ie. hit 50NL when i get $1500 by End of April.

Currently at $1000 roughly which does qualify me for 50NL already but ive still to feel confident playing cash. Those who know me know ive switched to cash from a decent stance in SNGs.

Im hesitant really to create a blog type post but i do know that a player like me needs direction/motivation or i will just not develop further once i get to a point of comfort. i will post my worst and best pots for added embarrassement/confidence. NO BAD BEATS THO

SO what I want from this thread is that it should help motivate me improve and play. Right now stats are 10K hands for 2.5BB/100 i think so its not great so far.

Feb goal: play 5K hands for 5BB/100 (im still unsure what i can fit into a month but ill play as much as i can and re-evalute on March Goal.)

Here we go, now to think of a title to my thread.

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

Okay i wanna play 100NL as a long term goal for this year. i think i can strive for this by setting up mini goals. ie. hit 50NL when i get $1500 by End of April.

Currently at $1000 roughly which does qualify me for 50NL already but ive still to feel confident playing cash. Those who know me know ive switched to cash from a decent stance in SNGs.

Im hesitant really to create a blog type post but i do know that a player like me needs direction/motivation or i will just not develop further once i get to a point of comfort. i will post my worst and best pots for added embarrassement/confidence. NO BAD BEATS THO

SO what I want from this thread is that it should help motivate me improve and play. Right now stats are 10K hands for 2.5BB/100 i think so its not great so far.

Feb goal: play 5K hands for 5BB/100 (im still unsure what i can fit into a month but ill play as much as i can and re-evalute on March Goal.)

Here we go, now to think of a title to my thread.

GL with your transition from SnG to cash and your overall goal for the year! Do you think youll ever venture into 6-max NL?

gl goat

Okay im one week in. Life has been good and so has poker to. since last friday ive gone for 7.67 PTBB/100 over a 1965 hands.

i can probably easily play more than the 5K hands I benchmarked but before i decide to change it ill make sure i actually make the mark.

Ok some big wins and losses.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

CO ($33.10)
Button ($24.15)
Hero ($27.60)
BB ($33.75)
UTG ($21)
UTG+1 ($15.60)
MP1 ($26)
MP2 ($25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, A.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 4 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, BB raises to $4, UTG+1 calls $3.75, Hero raises to $27.6, BB calls $23.60, UTG+1 calls $11.60 (All-In).

Flop: ($70.80) 3, 5, T (3 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($70.80) J (3 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($70.80) 3 (3 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $70.80

i was quite happy yesterday with this on the last orbit i was gonna play

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button ($28)
SB ($24.05)
Hero ($26.75)
UTG ($27.95)
UTG+1 ($24.05)
MP1 ($25.30)
MP2 ($53.45)
MP3 ($39.15)
CO ($22.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K, K.
3 folds, MP2 raises to $1, 4 folds, Hero raises to $3.25, MP2 raises to $5.5, Hero raises to $26.75, MP2 calls $21.25.

Flop: ($53.60) J, 6, Q (2 players)

Turn: ($53.60) J (2 players)

River: ($53.60) A (2 players)

Final Pot: $53.60

hmm guess these are just part of the game

Now 2 unconvential wins

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP1 ($32.95)
MP2 ($16.65)
CO ($27.45)
Hero ($24.65)
SB ($24.75)
BB ($36.15)
UTG ($23.65)
UTG+1 ($19.05)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, J.
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.25, 1 fold, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.10) J, 2, Q (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $1, BB raises to $3.25, UTG folds, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $8, BB calls $4.75.

Turn: ($17.10) 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $16.4 (All-In), BB calls $16.40.

River: ($49.90) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $49.90

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($27.10)
UTG ($25.80)
UTG+1 ($24.75)
MP1 ($7.80)
MP2 ($20.30)
MP3 ($10.45)
Hero ($31.80)
Button ($16.70)
SB ($13.25)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7, 9.
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP3 calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, 1 fold, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.35) 4, 6, 5 (5 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, MP3 bets $0.75, Hero raises to $2.5, Button calls $2.50, BB folds, MP1 folds, MP3 calls $1.75.

Turn: ($8.85) 3 (3 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets $6, Button folds, MP3 calls $6.

River: ($20.85) J (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets $2, MP3 calls $1.70 (All-In).

Final Pot: $24.55

Biggest loss besides the AA vs KK was this. i was new to the table but had seen opp do some silly stuff but i think still early and reads are poor that i should of let go.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP1 ($24.20)
MP2 ($4.50)
CO ($23.80)
Button ($41.20)
SB ($23.35)
Hero ($24.15)
UTG ($24.15)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J, T.
4 folds, Button calls $0.25, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.75) 2, 5, J (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button bets $0.75, SB folds, Hero calls $0.75.

Turn: ($2.25) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $2.75, Hero calls $2.75.

River: ($7.75) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $7, Hero calls $7.

Final Pot: $21.75

Okay to wrap up. Ive put it down to playing alot tighter than usual. I dont raise KQ EP-MP plus i may just open fold AJ EP coz i find im OOP way to much postflop vs 1+ opp's. Position is so much more important than in SNG (or maybe evident) since stacks are so deep that the added implied odds of calling postflop make for some interesting calls by opp's.

When folded to me in SB im folding alot more vs certain opp's even A rag hands. with multiple limpers ill just cimplete with AQ down, in BB ill check AK sometimes too.

One part im think where i could be very predictable to player who think is i open limp 22-99 hands and call raises. predictable being that i dont do this limp/call with any other hands (sure LP limp with SC and multiple limp/callers but besides them).

Ok peace out and im having fun. BR $1880

You might need some results on some of those hands goat

Okay to wrap up. Ive put it down to playing alot tighter than usual. I dont raise KQ EP-MP plus i may just open fold AJ EP coz i find im OOP way to much postflop vs 1+ opp's. Position is so much more important than in SNG (or maybe evident) since stacks are so deep that the added implied odds of calling postflop make for some interesting calls by opp's.

When folded to me in SB im folding alot more vs certain opp's even A rag hands. with multiple limpers ill just cimplete with AQ down, in BB ill check AK sometimes too.

One part im think where i could be very predictable to player who think is i open limp 22-99 hands and call raises. predictable being that i dont do this limp/call with any other hands (sure LP limp with SC and multiple limp/callers but besides them).

I think very tight is good, especially when you start out and play those limits, but not raising a KQ in mp is to tight. If you dont raise a hand like that you get way to easy to read. AJ in ep depends a lot on the table, but I find raising PPs UTG just to mix it up is very wise. As UTG/EP raises tend to get a lot of respect so if you opponents don't hit big, c-bets seem to do the trick most of the time. Just as a general rule, newer open limp, unless the table is very loose and passive, in these cases open limping suited aces might be profitable.

thanks for the quick analysis,, ill take it all on board to hone my play.

most tables are loose passive from what ive seen aswell. i dont think near any players are picking up on me but i dont want to be so odv that fish notice either

eh mini operation kinda donw already.

just quickly say as ive to go, on a sick heater right now. since 1 feb ive played 3500 hands (had friday off work 2) for 19.50 PTBB/100 for $341 profit plus i got my $137.5 bonus.

BR a little over $1500 already then. got some great hands that id be all day posting.

so anyway ill have to think about another miniplan in the mean time since im WAY ahead of schedule. as of now overall 15.5K hands for 5.86PTBB/100. oh and 15.6/7.2/1.33

Cic sa toin?

cic sa toin means kick in the ass in Irish. trying to use my national language a bit more (getting sentimental i guess )

ok i got $1500 right now while my goal was to have it by end of April . i thought it would also give me time to improve too but instead a sick heater yesterday screwed that up plus i got PS bonus.

so rigt now im waiting for PS to update my account info since i changed neteller accounts. ill withdraw 500 to put on PP and get their bonus, they dont have RB (ive yet to wet my beak on any RB money) so i wont have to worry about missing out.

goal for the rest of Feb remains unchanged as im using it as a benchmark for next month.

Ok now for some of my thoughts on the game;

1- not openraising KQ in MP sucks, ignore prior post above
2-i like 3 betting PFR'er with AQ (maybe AJ sometimes) to gain control. i see that even loose PFR seem to tighten up crazy like when repopped. So much respect is given to PFRR's
3- when i hit a set OOP i tend to bet into PFR. i think they feel its a weak move so repop me with TP (call with draws) and slowly get committed to the pot. ive taken this kinda line from T&P when sklansky has set vs TP (i think)

ill post some funhands now

This was sweet

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP1 ($14.75)
MP2 ($22.50)
CO ($24.40)
Button ($40.90)
SB ($28.90)
Hero ($27.95)
UTG ($24.40)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, T.
3 folds, CO calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1) K, A, A (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $1.5, Button folds, SB folds, Hero raises to $4, CO calls $2.50.

Turn: ($9) A (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $8.5, Hero calls $8.50.

River: ($26) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $15.2 (All-In), CO calls $11.65 (All-In).

Final Pot: $52.85

Results in white below:
Hero has Ad Td (four of a kind, aces).
CO has Qs Th (three of a kind, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins $52.85.

and this too

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button ($21.05)
SB ($42.10)
Hero ($53.75)
UTG ($18.70)
UTG+1 ($24.90)
MP1 ($22.85)
MP2 ($26.80)
MP3 ($10.85)
CO ($33.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, A.
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP3 calls $0.25, 1 fold, Button calls $0.25, SB completes, Hero raises to $1.75, MP1 folds, MP3 folds, Button folds, SB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.25) A, T, T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($4.25) 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($4.25) K (2 players)
SB bets $4, Hero raises to $52, SB calls $36.35 (All-In).

Final Pot: $96.60

Results in white below:
SB has Qc Js (straight, ace high).
Hero has Ah Ac (full house, aces full of tens).
Outcome: Hero wins $96.60.

oh oh oh this too

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button ($21.70)
Hero ($92.85)
BB ($13.30)
UTG ($26.70)
UTG+1 ($22)
MP1 ($25.25)
MP2 ($21.05)
CO ($32.05)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, 9.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 2 folds, CO calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1) K, J, T (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, CO bets $0.5, Hero raises to $1.5, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $1.50, CO raises to $5, Hero raises to $17, UTG+1 raises to $21.75, CO raises to $36.3, Hero calls $14.80.

Turn: ($90.85) 7 (3 players)

River: ($90.85) 3 (3 players)

Final Pot: $90.85

Results in white below:
Hero has Qd 9d (straight, king high).
UTG+1 has 6s As (high card, ace).
CO has Kh Td (two pair, kings and tens).
Outcome: Hero wins $90.85.

now for some losses

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB ($5)
Hero ($28.20)
UTG ($27.70)
MP1 ($7.65)
MP2 ($48.60)
CO ($20.30)
Button ($27.60)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, A.
2 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, CO raises to $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $3, MP2 folds, CO calls $2.

Flop: ($6.35) K, 3, 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $4.25, CO raises to $8.5, Hero calls $4.25.

Turn: ($23.35) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $8.8 (All-In), Hero calls $8.80.

River: ($40.95) T (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $40.95

Results in white below:
Hero has Ah Ac (one pair, aces).
CO has Kh Ks (three of a kind, kings).
Outcome: CO wins $40.95.

ok i dont have any other bad losses sadly but i did find this too

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB ($26)
BB ($40.95)
Hero ($32.05)
UTG+1 ($19.35)
MP1 ($21.10)
MP2 ($20.25)
MP3 ($26.20)
CO ($22.55)
Button ($31.95)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, Q.
Hero raises to $1, 2 folds, MP2 calls $1, 1 fold, CO calls $1, 2 folds, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($4.10) Q, T, A (4 players)
BB bets $1.5, Hero raises to $5, MP2 folds, CO calls $5, BB folds.

Turn: ($15.60) J (2 players)
Hero bets $10, CO raises to $16.55, Hero calls $6.55.

River: ($48.70) 2 (2 players)

Final Pot: $48.70

Results in white below:
Hero has Qd Qc (three of a kind, queens).
CO has Js 9h (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: Hero wins $48.70.

any thoughts on the last one especially???

you play pretty well

Wow cheers triptane, appreciate the input.

Originally Posted by Slash

GL with your transition from SnG to cash and your overall goal for the year! Do you think youll ever venture into 6-max NL?

sorry slash didnt notice the question

i was getting the lure to 6max when starting out but i think it was just me wanting to get some more action (ie like im used to in SNGs) but i think that was just the gamble talking no im happy at FR at the moment and like the lower amount of variance so far. also would you belive ive already made more ( i think ) than on SNGs

Triptanes*

GL to you sir. We are in a similar boat. Unfortunately variance has caught up with me and my BR is just below $1000 again. Poker is such a better game to play when you know that you can beat most of your opponents at your chosen game.

Originally Posted by Triptan3s

Triptanes*

Originally Posted by silu_nz

GL to you sir. We are in a similar boat. Unfortunately variance has caught up with me and my BR is just below $1000 again. Poker is such a better game to play when you know that you can beat most of your opponents at your chosen game.

amen brother

ive a day off work today so more hands shall be played, ill get the gym in too hopefully. Ill withdraw 500 into partypoker to get their easy bonus then prob whore empire after that. after that ill see what offers are good (i might aswell whore some easy ones while developing my game (tho i know some get lost in the world of whoring instead of developing so you guys can keep me inline).

anyone know if UB are gonna sort out their software for taking their HH's while using PAHUD?

Hi Goat,

May I ask you a question why you switched to FR?

I'm thinking of doing the same... everyone says there is more money to be made at FR. Especially when you take into account bonusses.

Do you multitable, and if so, how many tables?

I'll prolly give FR another try soon.

Kind regards,
C_S

Originally Posted by coolsmoe

May I ask you a question why you switched to FR?

Do you multitable, and if so, how many tables?

please anyone just throw me any questions at all. BTW this got long

basically ill post my SNG results recently (note i am missing all my past $5 and $11 games coz i moved and didnt bother bring the info with me as i was already comfortable at $16 turbos so i just brought them with me)

$16 turbos-277 games-ROI 8.82% my comment here is that i dont suck but it is variance i havent ever been on a heater in SNGs i can say with no ego. profit is $391.

1st 16%
2nd 11%
3rd 9%
4th 11%
both 5th and 7th 16%
6th 12%
8th 6%
and 9 th 4%

so im happy with the actual numbers but ive been BE since like November which sucks. i 2 table them and maybe get 4-6 games in any night i play.also on a personal level my development at SNGs, love of poker has all stagnated. i feel im at a level of just getting a BR to move to the next level. just like a boring computer game.

Now cash has opened my eyes again just like these forum did when i started, there is so much more to learn beside preflop and push/fold poker (to me a totally different game). there is too much for me tolist whats different. so ill post some stats so far.

17K hands profit, $550 not incl 138 bonus on PS, 6PTBB/100. All since November. im on my first noticeable heater at the moment. :P

so just compare my SNGs stats to Cash and theres my answer. cash DOES contain less variance, personal accomplishment.

Now ill throw in a disclaimer here. Depends on what you want. i liked SNGs coz i like to win and SNGs give you that, they also prepare you for MTTs better (both online and especially live when stuctures are tyically turboesque).

How many ytables do i play?

2 when turboing (tho i could probably add more but reads are a big part of my game, i never used PAHUD when playing)

4-6 when playing cash (2-4 when i started playing but i still found myself not focusing, ie TV, internet etc) so i added more which suited my TAG game plus its quite easy. its mostly fold everything PF and play like 1-2 hands postflop at a time. So 6 is my answer but will drop to 2-4 when i decide to move up so i can learn more.

sorry for the ramble. answer Cash is Goot, SNGs is bad

ádh mór ort gabhar

Originally Posted by givememyleg

ádh mór ort gabhar

AAAAAWWWWWWW bula bus mo chara

go raibh maith agat

<-- sarintleachtach

your now more irish-american than any other self proclaimed irish-american

who's helping you

i cheated and got my Irish teacher girlfriend to tell me over the phone!!!

''why did he call you goat?'' she said
''dunno!!''

BTW went up another $95 today before getting knocked back to +$45 for the day. heater is over but i couldnt help losing one buyin 2 pair vs set tho the other buyin was me over playing AK (hmm i should post thsi a s its when i fucked up, humiliation=improvement maybe)

anyway wont have internet in work for awhile as im out of the office for 2 weeks. so ill post em 2m since its midnight now.

Slan abhaile!!!

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

your now more irish-american than any other self proclaimed irish-american

who's helping you

i cheated and got my Irish teacher girlfriend to tell me over the phone!!!

go raibh maith agat - aka grma - "thank you"
sarintleachtach - "genius"

I wish I could say I just knew :
http://www.irishgaelictranslator.com/translation/

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

''why did he call you goat?'' she said
''dunno!!''

rofl

I'll stop spamming your thread now.

Originally Posted by givememyleg

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

your now more irish-american than any other self proclaimed irish-american

who's helping you

i cheated and got my Irish teacher girlfriend to tell me over the phone!!!

go raibh maith agat - aka grma - "thank you"
sarintleachtach - "genius"

I wish I could say I just knew :
http://www.irishgaelictranslator.com/translation/

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

''why did he call you goat?'' she said
''dunno!!''

rofl

I'll stop spamming your thread now.

grma!! nice

i knew most of the word. didnt know the genius one tho!! i trust this thread will contain its share of spam lol

This was a poor moment in 25NL, opp flopped trip Jacks

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($24.75)
BB ($18.45)
UTG ($14.75)
UTG+1 ($30.20)
MP1 ($22.50)
MP2 ($36.75)
MP3 ($5)
CO ($15.85)
Button ($50.15)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K, A.
3 folds, MP2 raises to $1, 2 folds, Button calls $1, Hero raises to $4.5, 1 fold, MP2 calls $3.50, Button folds.

Flop: ($10.25) 7, J, 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $6.75, MP2 calls $6.75.

Turn: ($23.75) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $13.5 (All-In), MP2 calls $13.50.

River: ($50.75) K (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $50.75

bad result, first hand at table so didnt PFR which i doubt opp would fold PF anyway. meh

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP1 ($48.40)
MP2 ($43.50)
CO ($39.40)
Button ($36.55)
SB ($24.75)
Hero ($25)
UTG ($10.40)
UTG+1 ($21.25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, J.
4 folds, CO calls $0.25, 1 fold, [z-zone]Tina calls $0.15, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.65) 8, A, J (3 players)
[z-zone]Tina bets $0.75, Hero raises to $3, CO raises to $4, Hero raises to $25.5, CO calls $20.75.

Turn: ($50.90) K (3 players)

River: ($50.90) 4 (3 players)

Final Pot: $50.90

Results in white below:
SB doesn't show.
Hero has Ah Jc (two pair, aces and jacks).
CO has 8s 8c (three of a kind, eights).
Outcome: CO wins $50.90.

hmm sucks here, im sure this is probably poorish

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

CO ($24.50)
Button ($28.65)
SB ($27.15)
Hero ($25)
UTG ($22)
UTG+1 ($13.90)
MP1 ($13.35)
MP2 ($9.05)
MP3 ($19.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3, 2.
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, 3 folds, Button calls $0.25, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1) 9, 3, 3 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.75, MP1 raises to $1.5, Button folds, SB calls $1.50, Hero raises to $5, MP1 calls $3.50, SB calls $3.50.

Turn: ($16) K (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $19.75 (All-In), MP1 calls $8.10 (All-In), SB calls $19.75.

River: ($63.60) T (3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $63.60

Results in white below:
SB has Ac 3h (three of a kind, threes).
Hero has 3c 2c (three of a kind, threes).
MP1 has Kd 5d (two pair, kings and threes).
Outcome: SB wins $63.60.

thats it except for one bad beat which i said i wont post.


just got my PS withdrawal to throw at Party now so im off to whore.

ok since last post 7-9 Feb stats are

2808 hands
profit $50.91
3.63 PTBB/100

not great but it been a bit tough.

cleared PP bonus but lost 2 buyin on that site. software plays much faster than PS, it took some getting used to 4 tabling plus PAHUD stats were over players hands so i tought they folded when they didnt (i did sort this tho ). i can 8 table PS but 4 table PP (maybe 6 if i try). PS is defo better but ill mess around with PP a wee bit more for a fairer review.

im crazy but PP software looks so much of a computer game, something about it makes me wanna bluff more

Ive been rethinking my main goal for about a week now. I think im way more than comfortable at 25NL now. im 8 tabling FR at Stars and while bonusing at Party im 6 tabling (im still at party right now). BTW i think stars software is easier to manage with more tables.

Feb Goal of 5K at 5 PTBB/100 has been accomplished with no probs. Bankroll at $1625 so im very happy.

Im going to try 50NL FR from now on at stars or party (wanna stick with a familiar site while moving up). Tho on second thought i could deposit at Empire for the bonus since software is same as party.

Ok so 50NL for the rest of the month. ill aim for a specific goal of hands in March but for now ill wet my feet there. hoo hoo im nervous but i here play is almost the same.

damn i got class each evening from Mon-Wed plus on Saturday. WOnt get much time to play this week, Thurs probably.

In the meantime ill cash out $500 from PS to put in Empire. whore that. also Bonus whores advises to play at poker4ever after that but it doesnt work with PT but i may go there anyway 40% bonus.

i plan to drop tables for 50NL to begin with also, say 4 should be fine.

also when should to wish to switch to 6max. theres plenty of FR at 100NL right? at what level does it start to filter out at FR??

gl goat. this is the first time ive read this, and it looks like you are making the transition well.

RE: switching to 6 max. I dont know about 100nl, but above that it seems like the 6max tables have all the action. When i made the switch from sngs i jumped right in to 6 max, but im also an action junkie so FR was a bit too slow.

Originally Posted by Bode-ist

gl goat. this is the first time ive read this, and it looks like you are making the transition well.

RE: switching to 6 max. I dont know about 100nl, but above that it seems like the 6max tables have all the action. When i made the switch from sngs i jumped right in to 6 max, but im also an action junkie so FR was a bit too slow.

thx for reading bode, on 6max i just thought that it may dry up after 100NL then ill have to make another transition when i want to move up from 100NL FR but there wont be a 2ooNL FR fishy enough. as i type this i think im getting way to ahead of myself and so ill just put the head down and go for 100NL FR. when i get there ill decide.

thx plus i guess 6max is the turbo version and comes with such consequences

Nice to see your working your way up the stakes, your BR can take a bad streak of cards so you should be more than fine.

also when should to wish to switch to 6max. theres plenty of FR at 100NL right? at what level does it start to filter out at FR??

I have been thinking about the exact same thing lately! I'm at 100Nl and my BR is $3550ish I've decided to try and go with 200NL FR when I get my BR to $4000. But after that I think I'm forced to go with 6-max, heck I don't even know if there is enough action at 200NL FR. But we will see

Keep grinding goat !

THanks Kauf.

OK i got in 400 hands in my first 50NL session. i didnt have much free time last night but i wanted to get a feel for it even if i only played and hour and a half at max.

Ran +$6 for 1.63 PTBB/100. SWEET LOL

bought in for full buyins at 4 tables. since i usually 6-8 table i found i was picking up alot of info. tables were crazy to begin with but settled down nicely and played very similiar to 25NL games. i just played my same game and tried to relax. just the betting was the biggest ive ever bet with money which was weird.

anyone i won a bit and am happy. ill post some hands if i get time this evening.

just a quick update. its going fine at 50NL. im 5+ PTBB/100 over a little under 1500 hands.

BR around 1760 now and i cleared the empire bonus of 100 last night. cleared it in one sitting 4 tabling.

on first impressions the 50NL is probably even worse than 25NL. empire has the fishiest tank ive seen so far.

no real good hands to brag/discuss since cards aint been all that great.

only one hand i won with AK flop QKA (2spades) gettting allin vs KQ on turn.

i well at home at 50NL now. SWEET

quick update!!! breakeven over 2500 hands like .6 PTBB/100. ive to review hands while working today. no major hands again besides some calling stations rivering me. i may have to review my c/b betting as i think thats where im dropping money wether im been floated i dunno but i doubt it at this level, maybe its just a short term thing.

well had a good night of it last night. Up 2 buyins in about 1 1/2-2 hours.

One had off the top of my head,

raise 4xBB PF KK BB (i got $50)
1 CO+1 limp/caller (about $30)

flop 38T rainbow

i bet $4 into about $5 pot. get raised min to $8 (i got to put $4 in)
i ponder if im behind (opp 22/5/1), opp aint usually agg but prob would of open raised 88 and TT. what could limp/call??? xT,x8 n positon. i do think opp is a weak player.

i call flop, turn a rag. i check (tho opp aint usually agg im sure he could bet again since he has shown agg so far. he bets $10 with about $18 behind or so. i c/r allin, opp thinks (so now i know im ahead) and he calls with JTo.

SWEET

hmm note to self change/update my profile.

ok i sense im just about a buyin or less short of $2000 baby. so im up like 1K since i started this thread so all is well. i think im running 6 PTBB/100 this month after previous BE month in NOv and DEc tho Jan won me 150. Only now am i focusing on cash instead of also playing my first poker love, SNGs.

Right now im playing at Poker4ever. Its was listed on www.Bonuswhores.com as a possible next step so I went with $500 i took out of Stars. First impressions of the site was AWFUL, HOLY CHRIST WTF have I done AAARRRGRHH. WITHDRAW, WITHDRAW, WITHDRAW.

Cons;

1-Player database 200 players. WTF is that possible
2-Software is quite slow. YAWN
3-Table availability SUCKS. i had one 50NL table goind with one 25 NL aswell as a 6m for both buyins. if i couldnt get in id try start a new table and play shorthanded/HU.
4-PT isnt compatible
5-4 table max and no resizing
6-50NL is the top game here. no players at higher levels. lowest level is 25NL.

Pros; THere is some WUB.

1- THE WORST PLAYERS I HAVE EVER SEEN. SERIOUSLY
2-small db of players is fine coz you will remember the players
3- .25/.50 table can buyin for $100. .10/.20 can for $40.
4-MY GOD THE PLAYERS ARE BAD. ULTRA LOOSE PASSIVE EVRYONE ONE OF THEM.
5-looks nice but since its so slow i doesnt matter really.
6-EDIT to say VPIP is always 36+. at my 50NL table VPIP was 64%. PFR is very low. PT doesnt work but the site displays VPIP and average pot sizes

So at this site ive cleared 1/7th of the $200 bonus to come while im up $60+ too. i started to disrespect players at the start by making bad moves but ive tightened up properly.

i wont stay at this site tho coz i feel i defo wont improve as a player here at all.

ok last night was the first time in ages where i knew i was on TILT.

on poker4ever, a little tired but they are all very poor players (another reason to tit is when they beat you). 3 tabling whatever they had available but its SO FUCKING SLOW like high stakes poker tv show gets in more hands per hour. so i got the ole i wanna play more hands syndrome vs these guys. i limped more hands IP but hit nothing, raise PF and hit nothing OOP. PFR's arent getting respect at all so yoiu cant c/b as freely which sucks. so i added 2 PP tables (BTW P4E doesnt resize tables s o i have 3 massive fucking tables overlapping). i BE at PP in the end while only down $30 at P4E.

at least it didnt cost me much, i ended the session after about 1 1/2-2 hours talking to taipan and watching Aba's new video on cardrunners.

AARRGGHH, anyway BR just under 2ooo i think. when i clear P4E bonus im gone. 333/1400 points collected so far so i still have a way to go. im still alittle annoyed today but i know the games are soft with VPIP 60%+ on some FR tables.

So at this site ive cleared 1/7th of the $200 Bonus to come while im up $60+ too. i started to disrespect players at the start by making bad moves but ive tightened up properly.

i wont stay at this site tho coz i feel i defo wont improve as a player here at all.

I think you should see that site as an oppertunity if the players are so bad. I don't really think better players will improve your play, they will just make it harder for you to move up because you can't take as many money of the better players. I'll take money>"skill" anyday of the week. At the lower levels I don't think the skill level rise so much, so IMHO your primary objective should be to build you bankroll and take shots at higher levels.

Adjusting to your opponents is also an important skill, and if the best way to play against players from poker4ever is to be a patient nut pendling nit, then that is what you should be.

Just my $0.02

Originally Posted by Kauf Jr.

Adjusting to your opponents is also an important skill, and if the best way to play against players from poker4ever is to be a patient nut pendling nit, then that is what you should be.

Just my $0.02

no your making perfect sense. reminds me of somethin Mike Caro or sklansky said that has stuck with me. ''i regret not wining more money against poor players than gaining the respect by playing against better players'' something like that.

i think tho that i can find a better site to find such poor players. its more of a problem of the software, i couldnt imagine a site having it so wrong. they have gone for looks, animation but not speed. its so very slow that its takes to long to take adv of poor player there. also some players dont even auto post blinds which really HURTS, they get 20 sec's each time and it was a 6max table WTF!!!

game availablity is literally this;

ONE 50NL FR
ONE 50nl 6m
ONE 20NL FR
and i might play 2-4 SH 20NL

there are NO others tables in play. nobody plays above 50NL.

thx for input Kauf. I also wanted to give in this blog some review type stuff of sites ill mull through.

i think tho that i can find a better site to find such poor players. its more of a problem of the software, i couldnt imagine a site having it so wrong. they have gone for looks, animation but not speed. its so very slow that its takes to long to take adv of poor player there. also some players dont even auto post blinds which really HURTS, they get 20 sec's each time and it was a 6max table WTF!!!

game availablity is literally this;

ONE 50NL FR
ONE 50nl 6m
ONE 20NL FR
and i might play 2-4 SH 20NL

Thats a whole other story, poor game selection is definately very frustrating, especially if the software is slow. That was actually the reason I left crypto, because of their FR game selection..

thx for input Kauf. I also wanted to give in this blog some review type stuff of sites ill mull through.

Np mate, I'm looking forward to the review thing sounds interesting.

stake me?

Originally Posted by Kauf Jr.

Thats a whole other story, poor game selection is definately very frustrating, especially if the software is slow. That was actually the reason I left crypto, because of their FR game selection.

crypto couldnt be as bad tho, could it?? ill probably whore through them at some stage.

thx for input Kauf. I also wanted to give in this blog some review type stuff of sites ill mull through.

Np mate, I'm looking forward to the review thing sounds interesting.[/quote]

well i think ive talked of P4E enough for sure. mentally im just looking for signup bonuses before i go to the bigger sites to get bonuses that take ages while getting RB. Seems to be the norm to whore on my size BR. i imagine ill finish this bonus within 2 weeks, i may have saturday day time to get a huge chunk done. its worth $200 and i dont see myself losing money, just have to sit back even tighter at their tables.

Also regards my blog thing here, while im just posting some quick update threads ill post graphs when i find out how to do them aswell as maybe posting general observations too.

wow its almost been a week since i posted last.

to sum up;

Poker4ever-up $80 while have half the $200 bonus cleared which is rerleased at the end. I WILL move on afterwards tho there is a reload bonus available. I just nut camping here to be honest. raising KQ or AJ EP and MP is just troublesome against these players, c/b's dont hold as much value vs a table of calling stations.

that said ive found a gliche in their software which adds more tables. limited to 4 if you go through the waiting list process. so play 4 as usual than you can observe 2 more but when seats free up on these table you can sit down as long as theres no waiting list. so i can 6 table there IF there are 6 tables to play tho YAWN. so right now im camping, bored and not developing YAWN.

also ive deposited on Everest. $100 100% bonus, i like the software and the players at 50NL are very poor. i keep you updated on this. down about $65 on this site tho ARGH.

BR i think is still just under 2K. cant wait to reach such a milestone. reaching 1K was a great feeling, i think 10K will be amazing ( ill prob cash out a bit when im getting overrolled for limits, as a nice reward ill withdraw at some point)

Originally Posted by givememyleg

stake me?

NO

how else can I afford 4 houses, 5 cars and 16 super models girlfriends. its not all fun and games in order sustain my life style.

wow i totally forgot about what i wanted to post today.

NEW MARCH GOAL:

10K Hands
min 5PTBB/100 +$500
Clear Poker4ever bonus +$200
Clear Everest bonus +$100
Start another bonus +$100

Est BR end of MArch 2K+$900= $ 2.9K

Wow if i can run well this month i may be able to jump into 100NL at some stage in April. I really expected 100NL to just be a realistic year end target. SNGs take a hell of alot longer to move up. In my orignal thread i wanted to just step up to 50NL by end of April. AAAHHHHH

For the month of Feb (something like this);
18K hands roughly
5.67+PTBB/100 on PT but poker4ever isnt compatiable
Bonuses +$200

Watch this space. im looking forward to next month

WWWWWOOOOOOHHHOOOOOOOO

Up 4.5 buyins in 700 hands tonight. some highlights;

apologies no converter on hand for Everest


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EverestPoker Game #1180254330: Table Berlin-16 - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:03:40 - 2007/02/27
Seat 1: IznouGooD ($49.25)
Seat 2: Dapapst ($45.62)
Seat 4: Fabsolut ($105.13)
Seat 5: chresius ($53.75)
Seat 6: Ice51 ($51.86)
Seat 7: DaRookee ($61.66)
Seat 8: Lourenz ($50.00)
Seat 9: __Riverest__ ($50.90)
Seat 10: DaGOAT ($57.23)
Fabsolut posts the small blind of $0.25
chresius posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaGOAT[Td Ts]
Ice51 folds
DaRookee folds
Lourenz folds
__Riverest__ folds
DaGOAT calls $0.50
IznouGooD folds
Dapapst folds
Fabsolut folds
chresius raises to $1.75
DaGOAT calls $1.25
*** FLOP *** [Ac Tc As]
chresius bets $3.75
DaGOAT raises to $7.50
chresius raises to $18.75
DaGOAT raises to $55.48 and is all-in
chresius calls $33.25 and is all-in
Uncalled bet of $3.48 returned to DaGOAT
*** SHOW DOWN ***
chresius shows [Ah Kc]
DaGOAT shows [Td Ts]
*** TURN *** [Ac Tc As] [9d]
*** RIVER *** [Ac Tc As 9d] [5c]
*** SUMMARY ***
Board: [Ac Tc As 9d 5c]
DaGOAT collects $104.75


----2------------

EverestPoker Game #1180151481: Table Berlin-4 - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:45:22 - 2007/02/27
Seat 1: MeisVriend ($131.87)
Seat 2: Donkey_No1 ($39.45)
Seat 3: nucki ($44.21)
Seat 4: Poostman ($128.79)
Seat 5: IznouGooD ($49.50)
Seat 6: __Riverest__ ($55.07)
Seat 7: Dapapst ($63.32)
Seat 8: DaGOAT ($50.00)
Seat 9: Ray_Rdam ($124.64)
Seat 10: Jofa111 ($84.99)
nucki posts the small blind of $0.25
Poostman posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaGOAT[7d 7c]
IznouGooD raises to $3.00
__Riverest__ folds
Dapapst folds
DaGOAT calls $3.00
Ray_Rdam folds
Jofa111 folds
MeisVriend folds
Donkey_No1 calls $3.00
nucki folds
Poostman calls $2.50
*** FLOP *** [7h 6c Ts]
Poostman checks
IznouGooD bets $10.00
DaGOAT raises to $22.75
Donkey_No1 folds
Poostman folds
IznouGooD raises to $46.50 and is all-in
DaGOAT raises to $47.00 and is all-in
Uncalled bet of $0.50 returned to DaGOAT
*** SHOW DOWN ***
IznouGooD shows [8c 8d]
DaGOAT shows [7d 7c]
*** TURN *** [7h 6c Ts] [Js]
*** RIVER *** [7h 6c Ts Js] [Jc]
*** SUMMARY ***
Board: [7h 6c Ts Js Jc]
DaGOAT collects $102.25

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EverestPoker Game #1179004264: Table Berlin-0 - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:14:18 - 2007/02/27
Seat 1: mapocalyps ($56.78)
Seat 2: al_rus ($46.75)
Seat 3: DaGOAT ($49.50)
Seat 4: Moulasse ($115.04)
Seat 5: bokkem ($40.25)
Seat 8: little1979 ($61.15)
Seat 9: kilaz ($5.00)
Seat 10: fides2 ($12.21)
little1979 posts the small blind of $0.25
kilaz posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaGOAT[Ac Kd]
fides2 folds
mapocalyps calls $0.50
al_rus folds
DaGOAT raises to $2.50
Moulasse folds
bokkem folds
little1979 folds
kilaz folds
mapocalyps calls $2.00
*** FLOP *** [3c Jc Ah]
mapocalyps bets $0.50
DaGOAT raises to $4.65
mapocalyps calls $4.15
*** TURN *** [3c Jc Ah] [2h]
mapocalyps checks
DaGOAT checks
*** RIVER *** [3c Jc Ah 2h] [As]
mapocalyps bets $15.05
DaGOAT raises to $42.35 and is all-in
mapocalyps calls $27.30
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DaGOAT shows [Ac Kd]
mapocalyps shows [Ad 8h]
*** SUMMARY ***
Board: [3c Jc Ah 2h As]
DaGOAT collects $96.75

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EverestPoker Game #1179549555: Table Berlin-14 - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:58:14 - 2007/02/27
Seat 1: bigbosstg77 ($113.22)
Seat 2: Jofa111 ($44.16)
Seat 3: picasso7 ($41.25)
Seat 4: gretyl ($49.82)
Seat 5: KRONOS91 ($51.79)
Seat 7: DaGOAT ($64.37)
Seat 8: Mr_Tanou ($49.00)
Seat 9: lucky-luc ($48.68)
Seat 10: yisa ($73.49)
picasso7 posts the small blind of $0.25
gretyl posts the big blind of $0.50
bigbosstg77 posts $0.50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaGOAT[Ad Ah]
KRONOS91 calls $0.50
DaGOAT raises to $2.50
Mr_Tanou folds
lucky-luc folds
yisa folds
bigbosstg77 calls $2.00
Jofa111 folds
picasso7 folds
gretyl folds
KRONOS91 raises to $10.75
DaGOAT raises to $27.50
bigbosstg77 folds
KRONOS91 raises to $51.79 and is all-in
DaGOAT raises to $64.37 and is all-in
Uncalled bet of $12.58 returned to DaGOAT
*** SHOW DOWN ***
KRONOS91 shows [Qh Qc]
DaGOAT shows [Ad Ah]
*** FLOP *** [5c 5h 7s]
*** TURN *** [5c 5h 7s] [3c]
*** RIVER *** [5c 5h 7s 3c] [Jh]
*** SUMMARY ***
Board: [5c 5h 7s 3c Jh]
DaGOAT collects $103.83

Beautiful.

BR at $1965 AARRRGHH so close to 2K

i could of sworn i was roung 2.2K, oh well.

BTW EVerest gave me a bonus last night of $150 without having to deposit!!!! im loving this site. deposited $400 and dropped to $320 while 4 tabling (ugh BR management not goot) but now at $660 (incl $45 of bonus) and ive $200 bonus left in total.

Loving their software and goes to show you dont need PAHUD at lower stakes

I think you should try to move up to 100NL when you reach 2k, 50NL and 100NL is nearly the same, a bit tougher to get paid of sometimes but the changes are very small. And FWIW then I newer really used my HUD until now at 200NL.

Keep it up

Originally Posted by Kauf Jr.

I think you should try to move up to 100NL when you reach 2k, 50NL and 100NL is nearly the same, a bit tougher to get paid of sometimes but the changes are very small. And FWIW then I newer really used my HUD until now at 200NL.

Keep it up

thx man,

ive about 500/1400 points left on poker4ever to clear b4 i get the $200 bonus. i now HATE the site coz of the software.

I ve come to a conclusion on this site. the good players (who arent stacking off at al) have big stacks, the bad players only buyin for $10. if the bad players have a big stack its only coz the luckboxed. Each table plays 50 hands per hour YAWN. im just having as many tables open and just camping YAWN. cant wait to be free.......wwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeee...........

im still feeling good now if that looks like a moan, i have some everest tables open at the same time.quality site. mwah i love everest (till the doomswitch activates)

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

BTW EVerest gave me a bonus last night of $150 without having to deposit!!!! im loving this site. deposited $400 and dropped to $320 while 4 tabling (ugh BR management not goot) but now at $660 (incl $45 of bonus) and ive $200 bonus left in total.

What?!

What form did this bonus take?

yup $150 smackers for nothing. sent me an email, bonus code 15FIA. but they said this is only 4 ME!!!!! no deposit just free monies

WWWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Check out my thread on Table Selection. Hope it helps, I think I have learned a few things researching!! leave any discussion there.

http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...oker-51554.htm

Thx

hmm i feel i do neglect to put HH and alot more detail in this sometimes but i am neglecting it to play POKKA so i guess its ok. when i do post im in work without HH

broke BE over a little over 1000 hands yesterday. very first hand i flopped a small flush and lost to A high flush. we both flopped it and got AI on flop, ill post it later coz i think i should of found a fold.

BR- dunno around 2K id say (having it over multiple sites is poxy to count up)

wont stab at 100NL till i got 2.5K. i wanna have enough learning curve and never touch 50Nl again

ok time for some poker thoughts.

Im just gonna tackle PF hands to be played in early position at full ring only, i wanna tackle small points in the game in this thread and maybe group them together later and post in other forums.

I will use Rentons thread on PF strategy for my analysis. Before i do though, the purpose of this is to improve my play and understanding of preflop strategy. Currently im playing 14/7 roughly and im not happy about it. I want to address this now at 50NL before 100NL, having said that I will just move up when BR premits.

http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...oker-39184.htm

UTG

currently i raise KQs+, KQo, JJ+. So i should mentally work on dropping KQo altogether near, this holding in particular i feel isnt working for me enough OOP and raising. also i think Ive enough balance even by dropping this holding that other players will know i dont always have a monster UTG. PP's 22-TT is another part im concerned about, i limp 22-TT currently. I think this is a big leak IMO, so i note that i will now raise 99 and TT. ill continue to limp 22-88 but will think more about the table dynamics more. dropping 22-55 is probably a bit much at 50NL but at 100Nl i wonder if i should drop them. I hear ppl also limp QJs, mid SC and suited Aces but im not willing to practice them yet and its mainly based on table texture which im not that experienced in yet. LOL i just keep adding to this as i go on, im also NOT looking to balance my play in any way yet at 50NL i dont see the need.

UTG+1&2

Opening Pot -

''Raise 99+, AJs+, AQo+, KQs like UTG but add a few more hands'' qouted from Renton. Currently i play this the same with same range as in UTG above. I will adjust as in UTG above though i do feel so TRANSARENT when limping bacause i only do it with PPs 22-TT (tho now ill raise 99 & TT) but still it feels icky.


After UTG limp

Currently raise KQs+,JJ+. i know KQs might be borderline but im not really ever afraid of an UTG limp. more often than not its a small PP or mid SC at 50NL.

After UTG raise

Currently reraise QQ+,AK+. AQs depends, call in vacuum. Generally call with 22-JJ. I do find folds for AQo,AJ and KQs since my position sucks and im not in control not to mention 7-8 players left to act .

Thats it for now, ill see how my changes will affect my game now. Will update on some thoughts on this at a later date. This post isnt anything life changing but i think it helps me more to take this much time thinking about it and developing. Improving is just as important as increasing ones bankroll.

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

BR at $1965 AARRRGHH so close to 2K

i could of sworn i was round 2.2K, oh well.

LOL LOTS im an idiot. didnt count the $195 i had on neteller just seen it today.

withdraw 595 from empire and put 400 on everest. forgot about the balance i left behind.

ill count the BR when im home but i could be knocking on the door of 100NL very very soon (i may have the BR already tho and didnt know it next article ill write will be on the knowing your bankroll while using bankroll management!!! a factor many dont focus on

ok drum roll for my bankroll please.....................

Poker4ever - $420
Pokerstars - $128
Everest - $944
Neteller - $873

Total $2365

well im close and nervous lol

im gonna focus on clearing the $200 bonus (418/1400 points left to collect) on poker4ever coz i feel it will hold me back when im at 100NL since they dont have games at that level and i hate the site now. just getting it outta the way which will be a great release.

Gratz man!!

You should have played cash all along

start taking shots at $100nl immediately. If Poker4ever doesnt have $100nl (?) then wait but as soon as you move sites start putting in the hands and dont worry about money won/lost until you have atleast 5k hands logged.

GL!!!

Originally Posted by Bode-ist

start taking shots at $100nl immediately. If Poker4ever doesnt have $100nl (?) then wait but as soon as you move sites start putting in the hands and dont worry about money won/lost until you have atleast 5k hands logged.

GL!!!

thx for chiming in. cheers jimmy too

if i sat at a table of 100NL id be on my own lol. im down 2 buyins at that site. bad players are really short stacks and hands aint holding but meh its more than offset by the bonus.

dropped 2 buyins at 50NL last night on Everest 4-5 tabling, i played while tired between 11pm - 1am. got stacked once while the rest was just dewindled away on calling with PPs or PFR and c/b not taking it down when whiffed.

On Poker4ever i won $20, they implemented a new look to their site but didnt improve on their interface at all. got 280/1400 left to clear, im opnly down $80 so far so if i can BE ill be happy to move on.

Also i observed the 100NL game at Everest and it seemed very soft if not the same with many many 40%+ VPIP games.

Anyway ill create a HH where I fucked up big time, god i hate stacking off early in a session.

Full stack w/ Q8h

3 limpers and i check

flop J7A 2 hearts

UTG limp bets 1/2 pot, all others fold. it seems weak so i put him on a medium Ace.

Turn T (gives me extra outs to a striaght)

I check, UTG bets 1/2 pot again, i call,

River Ah

ok its both good and bad news, i check (wanting a bluff or habitable 1/2 pot bet from opp to be put in), opp bets 1/2 pot=$6.

i sit there thinking will I just call since board is paired?? there is some thin value i thought in RR to 14 as an Ace WILL call it since afraid of flush.

I repop to $14, opp goes allin and its another $20 for me to call. AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHH i call opp turns AT for the house. I should laid it down when opp went allin at least. i knew he had medium Ace and sionce his betting pattern didnt change and appearred weak on all streets i didnt think his hand really gained on strength.

im gonna take today off playing coz im absolutly wrecked. I havent willingly gone a day without playing if you get me. Today ill relax maybe try finish a few computer games on xbox 360 coz gears of war is the only game ive finish in about 2 years (i blame my attention span).

BTW check out Fortune 500 operation thread for his new software.

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

also ive deposited on Everest. $100 100% bonus, i like the software and the players at 50NL are very poor. i keep you updated on this. down about $65 on this site tho ARGH.

For once in my life is sucks to be in America. Bonus whoring is damn near impossible without NETeller.

Sounds like you are doing great though. Nicely played

hey Gator. yeah i dont envy america so much now lol

Should have time to play this evening. but all i have on my mind at the moment is going in to the boss for a pay rise. we agreed a review in March back in September. I have a job finished for him ill hand in late so it looks good when i ask. plus he said he was impressed with another job earlier. Gotta do it coz im out of the office for 2 weeks from Monday (which may obstruct my posting on FTR) auditing a coporate risk company YAWN

how sweet is this. only sat down 2 hands ago and BB went allineach time and SD Q6o last hand after being called by KJo. he hit a Q to double up.


EverestPoker Game #1227731175: Table Berlin-18 - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:00:49 - 2007/03/09
Seat 1: DaGOAT ($49.50)
Seat 2: nelisdeman ($234.81)
Seat 3: paccino05 ($14.15)
Seat 4: philopongist ($45.19)
Seat 5: Fabzou ($36.19)
Seat 6: Jeronimok ($45.50)
Seat 7: tonton_serge ($44.05)
Seat 8: rapethem ($15.00)
Seat 9: nekoyama ($52.70)
Seat 10: Barnooo ($19.25)
Jeronimok posts the small blind of $0.25
tonton_serge posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaGOAT[Ks Kd]
rapethem folds
nekoyama folds
Barnooo folds
DaGOAT calls $0.50
nelisdeman raises to $2.25
paccino05 folds
philopongist calls $2.25
Fabzou folds
Jeronimok calls $2.00
tonton_serge calls $1.75
DaGOAT raises to $13.50
nelisdeman folds
philopongist calls $11.25
Jeronimok folds
tonton_serge raises to $44.05 and is all-in
DaGOAT raises to $49.50 and is all-in
philopongist folds
Uncalled bet of $5.45 returned to DaGOAT
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tonton_serge shows [Ts Kc]
DaGOAT shows [Ks Kd]
*** FLOP *** [2c 4s 5s]
*** TURN *** [2c 4s 5s] [Kh]
*** RIVER *** [2c 4s 5s Kh] [8d]
*** SUMMARY ***
Board: [2c 4s 5s Kh 8d]
DaGOAT collects $103.10


another KK hand

EverestPoker Game #1227812387: Table Berlin-11 - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:17:11 - 2007/03/09
Seat 1: sv650suzuki ($12.00)
Seat 3: xmanx ($41.90)
Seat 4: X-TheCrow-X ($24.50)
Seat 5: BigSlick79 ($35.36)
Seat 6: penguin26 ($39.13)
Seat 8: A-L-F ($15.33)
Seat 9: DaGOAT ($57.23)
Seat 10: pokernaute ($38.55)
DaGOAT posts the small blind of $0.25
pokernaute posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaGOAT[Kh Kd]
sv650suzuki folds
xmanx calls $0.50
X-TheCrow-X calls $0.50
BigSlick79 folds
penguin26 folds
A-L-F calls $0.50
DaGOAT raises to $3.75
pokernaute folds
xmanx folds
X-TheCrow-X calls $3.25
A-L-F folds
*** FLOP *** [2s Js 4d]
DaGOAT bets $6.50
X-TheCrow-X calls $6.50
*** TURN *** [2s Js 4d] [3s]
DaGOAT checks
X-TheCrow-X bets $14.25 and is all-in
DaGOAT calls $14.25
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DaGOAT shows [Kh Kd]
X-TheCrow-X shows [Jh Kc]
*** RIVER *** [2s Js 4d 3s] [3h]
*** SUMMARY ***
Board: [2s Js 4d 3s 3h]
DaGOAT collects $48.48

im adding as i play here folks

EverestPoker Game #1227922059: Table Berlin-20 - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:39:07 - 2007/03/09
Seat 1: Tiasao ($29.47)
Seat 2: Saarlaender7 ($31.95)
Seat 3: bad590 ($6.07)
Seat 4: sociopathe ($5.25)
Seat 5: ertista ($28.65)
Seat 6: HuHu1977 ($6.00)
Seat 7: DaGOAT ($50.07)
Seat 8: montag100 ($25.94)
Seat 9: ManuDeck ($70.97)
bad590 posts the small blind of $0.25
sociopathe posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaGOAT[As Js]
ertista calls $0.50
HuHu1977 folds
DaGOAT raises to $2.50
montag100 folds
ManuDeck folds
Tiasao folds
Saarlaender7 folds
bad590 calls $2.25
sociopathe folds
ertista calls $2.00
*** FLOP *** [3c 5s 2s]
bad590 checks
ertista bets $8.00
DaGOAT raises to $32.00
bad590 calls $3.57 and is all-in
ertista calls $18.15 and is all-in
Uncalled bet of $5.85 returned to DaGOAT
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bad590 shows [Ah 4h]
ertista shows [5c Ad]
DaGOAT shows [As Js]
*** TURN *** [3c 5s 2s] [Qs]
*** RIVER *** [3c 5s 2s Qs] [Ac]
*** SUMMARY ***
Board: [3c 5s 2s Qs Ac]
DaGOAT collects $17.96
DaGOAT collects $43.36


hmm this turned out tricky, UTG just sat down and posted

EverestPoker Game #1227931758: Table Berlin-10 - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:41:03 - 2007/03/09
Seat 1: ertista ($10.50)
Seat 2: DaGOAT ($50.00)
Seat 4: Emmamor ($24.50)
Seat 5: Ralphmeister ($25.23)
Seat 6: viper11 ($118.63)
Seat 8: Jelmersma ($50.00)
Seat 9: Mr.Pinojet ($49.05)
Seat 10: Memory. ($81.75)
Memory. posts the small blind of $0.25
ertista posts the big blind of $0.50
Jelmersma posts $0.50
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaGOAT[Jh Jc]
DaGOAT raises to $2.50
Emmamor folds
Ralphmeister folds
viper11 folds
Jelmersma folds
Mr.Pinojet folds
Memory. calls $2.25
ertista raises to $10.50 and is all-in
DaGOAT raises to $50.00 and is all-in
Memory. folds
Uncalled bet of $39.50 returned to DaGOAT
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ertista shows [Qs Qd]
DaGOAT shows [Jh Jc]
*** FLOP *** [5d 6s Ks]
*** TURN *** [5d 6s Ks] [2h]
*** RIVER *** [5d 6s Ks 2h] [4s]
*** SUMMARY ***
Board: [5d 6s Ks 2h 4s]
ertista collects $23.04

please play 100nl on everest. Bonuswhores says its a bad game, but i had some of my favourite beats of all time playing 100nl and 200nl on there recently.

If youre really looking for soft 100nl games id try pokerchamps (auto rakeback paid every week, which increases with the more hands you play)
Only thing is youre limited to 4tables(maybe 6) but its like bodog used to be, the games are so easy to beat playing less tables doesnt affect your $$$$$ per hour.

Congrats in reaching $2k and keep up the good work.

Originally Posted by Miffed22001

please play 100nl on everest. Bonuswhores says its a bad game, but i had some of my favourite beats of all time playing 100nl and 200nl on there recently.

If youre really looking for soft 100nl games id try pokerchamps (auto rakeback paid every week, which increases with the more hands you play)
Only thing is youre limited to 4tables(maybe 6) but its like bodog used to be, the games are so easy to beat playing less tables doesnt affect your $$$$$ per hour.

Congrats in reaching $2k and keep up the good work.

wow thanks for the encouragement miffed.

im free to play pretty much all night 2nite so if im still playing well ill move up later 3nite. im just borderline under 2.5K i think.

Everest is fine, got some bonus to clear and when i move up i want to be familiar with the software. Have you tried Europoker, thought i might try there next


EDIT BR-$2429

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

Originally Posted by Miffed22001

please play 100nl on everest. Bonuswhores says its a bad game, but i had some of my favourite beats of all time playing 100nl and 200nl on there recently.

If youre really looking for soft 100nl games id try pokerchamps (auto rakeback paid every week, which increases with the more hands you play)
Only thing is youre limited to 4tables(maybe 6) but its like bodog used to be, the games are so easy to beat playing less tables doesnt affect your $$$$$ per hour.

Congrats in reaching $2k and keep up the good work.

wow thanks for the encouragement miffed.

im free to play pretty much all night 2nite so if im still playing well ill move up later 3nite. im just borderline under 2.5K i think.

Everest is fine, got some bonus to clear and when i move up i want to be familiar with the software. Have you tried Europoker, thought i might try there next

its a pokkeroom (ongame?) skin so its nice and easy i expect.

Originally Posted by Miffed22001

its a pokkeroom (ongame?) skin so its nice and easy i expect.

thx, it seems i may be breaking my 100NL cherry tonite. up 3 buyins so far in under 350 hands. woot

BTW i do think everest is very soft. they love the bet pot button

ok within the next hour im gonna take THE SHOT AT 100NL

im gonna watch a cardrunner vid just before it so im in the frame of mind for it. just gonna play my normal game while just 2 tabling.


at 50NL today im 22PTBB/100 for $133


wish me luck for 100NL

Rotsa Ruck

ok im in and win my first pot that i play. SB vs BB. checked flop to me, i bet and take down 2 dollar LOL

im gonna play for just an hour coz some tiredness is creeping in.

EDIT: OMG wouldnt this be a great time for the ppl who live above me to play missy elliot and do some type of fucking jumping jacks!!!!!

EDIT 2: HOLY SHIT check this in my first few hands

HHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

EverestPoker Game #1228801042: Table Moroni-15 - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:36:18 - 2007/03/09
Seat 1: Blauerber ($76.52)
Seat 2: petpoker ($70.00)
Seat 4: DaGOAT ($104.66)
Seat 5: Heiko ($134.01)
Seat 6: BVB1909 ($103.40)
Seat 7: kaminari ($118.76)
Seat 8: churchstreet ($80.50)
Seat 9: Meadhros ($100.00)
Seat 10: patoketchup ($145.76)
Meadhros posts the small blind of $0.50
patoketchup posts the big blind of $1.00
petpoker posts $1.00
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaGOAT[Ah As]
Blauerber calls $1.00
petpoker checks
DaGOAT raises to $6.00
Heiko folds
BVB1909 calls $6.00
kaminari folds
churchstreet folds
Meadhros raises to $27.00
patoketchup folds
Blauerber folds
petpoker folds
DaGOAT raises to $104.66 and is all-in
BVB1909 folds
Meadhros calls $73.00 and is all-in
Uncalled bet of $4.66 returned to DaGOAT
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Meadhros shows [Qh Qd]
DaGOAT shows [Ah As]
*** FLOP *** [Td Jd 7s]
*** TURN *** [Td Jd 7s] [Th]
*** RIVER *** [Td Jd 7s Th] [5c]
*** SUMMARY ***
Board: [Td Jd 7s Th 5c]
DaGOAT collects $206.00


HHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLDDDDDDDDDD

EverestPoker Game #1228853033: Table Moroni-3 - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:46:13 - 2007/03/09
Seat 1: alexchev ($22.74)
Seat 2: FlamingMoe86 ($129.76)
Seat 3: __yuhiro ($105.34)
Seat 4: ZALTEN ($133.38)
Seat 5: bonigoal ($35.34)
Seat 7: DaGOAT ($100.00)
Seat 8: topher0815 ($15.00)
Seat 9: bernd10000 ($43.34)
Seat 10: batavier10 ($88.61)
ZALTEN posts the small blind of $0.50
bonigoal posts the big blind of $1.00
batavier10 posts $1.00
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaGOAT[As Ac]
DaGOAT raises to $5.00
bernd10000 folds
batavier10 folds
alexchev folds
FlamingMoe86 folds
__yuhiro folds
ZALTEN folds
bonigoal calls $4.00
*** FLOP *** [6s 8d Qc]
bonigoal checks
DaGOAT bets $8.50
bonigoal raises to $30.34 and is all-in
DaGOAT calls $21.84
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bonigoal shows [9s Th]
DaGOAT shows [As Ac]
*** TURN *** [6s 8d Qc] [6d]
*** RIVER *** [6s 8d Qc 6d] [Jd]
*** SUMMARY ***
Board: [6s 8d Qc 6d Jd]
bonigoal collects $69.30

AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH LLLLLOOOOLLL

ok my hour session of 2 tbling has come to close

108 hands
+$75
34.8 PTBB/100
went 17/7.4 was nice to get some cards in there.

so im over the $2500 for the moment at least

Thx FTR & Co

DaGOAT collects $206.00


shipme the dollahs motherfucker!

bonigoal collects $69.30

Please get in line for your sklansky IOU's

Originally Posted by Miffed22001

DaGOAT collects $206.00


shipme the dollahs motherfucker!

bonigoal collects $69.30

Please get in line for your sklansky IOU's

exactly sir.

BTW i think that was probably my biggest pot ever.