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Originally Posted by salsa4ever
please don't give up! You haven't come this far to be beat by a NL25 cash game.
I'm still rooting for you
Aw thanks ... I haven't given up, I just need to force myself to get playing again.
Originally Posted by Renton
court aim me if you need help. Im currently helping my roommate beat 25nl, so im actually quite familiar with the way the 25nl games are played.
Basically, the games play pretty passively. Since passive = "doesn't raise without a very big hand", this means you have to actually lay down some fairly big hands on occasion in order to be a big winner. It also means that you'll need to be checking some rivers with marginal-ish hands like top pair, because often times they will smoothcall to the river with a set or two pair.
Also, as another result of the games being passive, you'll have a hard time getting paid off on hands. This is because they aren't aggressive enough to put in a raise with the second best hand. The 100bb format of the cash game suggests that even in a raised pot, in order to get all in without overbetting the pot, your opponent needs to put in a raise somewhere. The fact that they aren't putting in that raise means that you'll be making a lot of river value bets with huge hands, instead of getting all in and stacking people.
Thank you for that, Renton, very helpful. How do $50NL games compare with what you just told me about $25NL?
When I was playing $25NL on Stars, I was playing 3 or 4 tables at a time just because it was so boring to play less and I figured I should just work on learning to play cards and position. After running badly and probably playing badly (and subsequently losing it), I decided to try something different. Today (first time I've played cash in over a week) I decided to play just one table and watch every single hand. Make some reads, figure out how certain people play, make more thought out decisions. I absolutely couldn't do this at $25NL though, the money is too meaningless to me at that buyin, so $50NL it was. IT WAS SOOO BORING. That's really all there is to describe it, haha. I dunno ... maybe I'll do it again tomorrow.
Thanks for your offer to help, I might take you up on it sometime
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