Quote Originally Posted by Chopper
global warming will be a hot topic, but any "independent" scientist tells you its all in the cycles of the sun, not much humans can do about it one way or the other. its really a way to "scare" idiot citizenship into spending money in the direction the gov't/media want you to go.

Wait...what? Are you levelling us? Please to quote a scientist without an agenda who says global warming is unconnected to human activity (and then, for fairness, quote 100 scientists without agendas who believe the evidence points to the opposite), and then please to explain in whose interests the environmental lobby (aka scientists who know far more than you + people who don't want the planet to die) is acting?

Why do people continue to disbelieve climate change in the massive overwhelming face of evidence THAT, IF ACTED UPON, WILL (if it's not too late already) MAKE A HUGELY POSITIVE DIFFERENCE TO THEIR LIVES AND THE LIVES OF THEIR CHILDREN? Can't you see it's a win win situation? In the unlikely event that scientists are wrong, or some mechanism is discovered, natural or otherwise, to reverse climate change, then we'll still have made efforts in reducing our need for increasingly rare resources and therefore spending less money on them (not to mention cutting pollution, preserving the environment, researching cleaner, safer, cheaper forms of energy, etc etc etc).