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should have just broken his legs while u had the chance

now that his debt is paid the drama is over

Btw keith , i didn't mean to be harsh on you , it's nice of you that you put faith in people and sometimes people f up. Personally i think it's cool that you give a guy a chance but imo u picked the wrong one. Though this was kind of a funny story it's also very troublesome knowing some guy is out there waisting his life through irresponsible gambool behaviour. Not to mention threads like these put poker in a negative spotlight. The people opposing the legalisation of poker throughout the world will always use these stories to ' prove' poker is a dangerous game. It's pretty obvious , poker isn't dangerous , people are

Originally Posted by TheLongGrind

Btw keith , i didn't mean to be harsh on you , it's nice of you that you put faith in people and sometimes people f up. Personally i think it's cool that you give a guy a chance but imo u picked the wrong one. Though this was kind of a funny story it's also very troublesome knowing some guy is out there waisting his life through irresponsible gambool behaviour. Not to mention threads like these put poker in a negative spotlight. The people opposing the legalisation of poker throughout the world will always use these stories to ' prove' poker is a dangerous game. It's pretty obvious , poker isn't dangerous , people are

Just an FYI. The site that this deal came thru is fairly small and the people involved (Krcmdc and Keith included) are incredibly nice and willing to go out of their way to help other members learn and advance their game. They were obvsly happy to risk what was (to them) a small amount of money in the hopes they could better another member. It didn't go as well as they liked but shit happens. Hopefully it doesn't turn them sour on doing it in the future.

Originally Posted by supa

Just an FYI. The site that this deal came thru is fairly small and the people involved (Krcmdc and Keith included) are incredibly nice and willing to go out of their way to help other members learn and advance their game. They were obvsly happy to risk what was (to them) a small amount of money in the hopes they could better another member. It didn't go as well as they liked but shit happens. Hopefully it doesn't turn them sour on doing it in the future.

Thanks for the kind words, but I'd think that Slevin would likely disagree. I guess I'm missing something from his background that everyone else here knows because I really don't understand all the hate he's getting here. He's a degen, a lot of people are, but they don't get the kind of hate Slevin has gotten over this situation. I mean damn, it was $120, it was a decent dinner and people want his legs broken, seems a bit extreme to me.

He did exactly what everyone seems to have known he would do. But, imo, he really tried not to do it. He put a ton of effort and enthusiasm into a complete no win situation and then to top it off, he did not receive the support he was promised. It was doomed from the start, which was my fault. And it inevitably failed, which was at least as much my fault as it was Slevins. I honestly believe that things would have been different had I done what I was suppose to do.

And no this hasn't soured us on these types of things. In fact, if legislation ever passes and I can get rid of this ridiculous "real job" I've been forced into, I'd even be willing to give Slevin another chance.

Originally Posted by TheLongGrind

Not to mention threads like these put poker in a negative spotlight. The people opposing the legalisation of poker throughout the world will always use these stories to ' prove' poker is a dangerous game. It's pretty obvious , poker isn't dangerous , people are

The argument for legal poker, as I understand it, is whether or not it's a game of skill. If it is, then it should be legal. Otherwise, it is just gambling like roulette or blackjack. And we all know that gambling is only socially acceptable in certain states. There will always be degenerates like slevin, but that's beside the point.

Originally Posted by TheLongGrind

Btw keith , i didn't mean to be harsh on you , it's nice of you that you put faith in people and sometimes people f up. Personally i think it's cool that you give a guy a chance but imo u picked the wrong one.

If you are looking at it purely in a results orientated way , then yeah we picked the wrong guy. However as a poker player you should look beyond the short term result and look at the long term picture.
Maybe Slevin was the perfect guy for us to do this with. We got a complete degenerate who had never ground a roll at a stake before to do that and make enough money to move up in stakes even if it was due to bonuses.But he was also able to demonstrate the flaws in the plan. If some one had sailed through with no problems we could have taken more students on and multiplied up the problems that we could have faced with later students.
We learnt a lot from the experience, the deficiences in the contract , things we could do better, things we should change for any future students,what the likely earnings are going to be, warning signs to watch out for, when we should just decide that for a paticular student they have gone as far as we can take them etc. That will benefit us as well as any future students.

Just so that it's known by everyone with an interest in this debacle...

Slevin contacted me today and offered repayment in full. I declined, he doesn't owe me (nor anyone else) anything stemming from this mess.

Assuming that his FTR banning stemmed solely from this disaster, I'd like to ask again that his ban be reversed. He would never have been banned in the first place had I known about this thread.

slevin contacted me yesterday as well by email and skype and offered to pay me or KRCMDC. I told him to contact KRC and gave him contact details.

Maybe cos he thinks they won't accept it?

I have no idea why he decided that now was the time to repay. I really don't know him at all. I've never spoken to him aside from a few forum posts and a pm or two, all months ago near the beginning of this deal. I quit this deal right about the time Slevin was "moving up" and had not exchanged a single word with him from that time until he contacted me about this repayment.

I'm 100% certain that he had zero reason to ever think that I would refuse the repayment. His offer was 100% genuine and honest imo.

So much hatred and cynicism, I still don't understand it.

Edit: And just to be clear, there was no "they", I did not accept the repayment. No one else was asked about it.

Originally Posted by krcmdc

So much hatred and cynicism, I still don't understand it.

Is the interwebz bro. Still tryin' to figure it out myself.

KRC such a good dude. I dont beleive in him; too nice....maybe hes an alien

Originally Posted by kickass

KRC such a good dude.....

Yea, it's admirable that he's paid off Slevins debt, but why worship him? KRC admitted that he failed to deliver on his part of the staking/coaching deal. That's why he paid the money. Yes, it was very cool.

yeah nob head we hate you KRC.
I like the way he defends slevins honour, when hardly anyone has a good word to say about him, putting the blame on himself. honourable. Im been drinking.

I was browsing dragthebar today and ran across this post

• 01-28-2012 04:45 PM #1

1. Rocky
   
   
   
   
   Thank you
   
   Drag the bar, I would just like to thank you and Jared for the biggest tilter competition that happened some months back. I had one session with Jared and also received a signed copy of Jared's book.
   
   The session helped me greatly, it resulted in me taking a long look at my game, and although I am still not where I want to be it equipped me really well to at least realise where I need to be heading with my game, and also to realise what my real mental weaknesses were - including unfounded confidence that can be just as damaging as negativity! I hadn't realised just how overconfident I was until the session with Jared (not arrogant - just a perpetual optimist) which was really holding me back it took away the mental space I needed for my development. I really recommend Jared's sessions to anyone that has tilt / mental issues at the table. He was surgical how he pinpointed my real issues, issues I hadn't realised until he pointed them out - but were blatently obvious as soon as he had mentioned them.
   
   Since receiving the book I've read so much interesting material that I know will help me with my quest to become a good player. I also know that some of the material will have wider applications in my life due to the way it has been presented in the book, in such a thorough but really down to earth and pragmatic way.
   
   I'm looking forward to a productive year with my poker now, and have recently setup some technical coaching from a great DTB coach now I have a mental strategy that works.
   
   Thank you!
   
   

what...nobody has pointed out to you in the past that you shouldn't play underrolled,drunk,etc etc lol....oh well its good to see you have now realised it.

then a day later he posted.

01-29-2012 02:00 PM #1
Rocky



Ipoker and Merge (BCP) for 200nl - does anyone play here? how are the games? Thanks

Hi everyone

I'm looking to start playing poker seriously and would like to know if anyone has any recent experience playing 100nl and 200nl on Ipoker or on Black Chip Poker (Merge)?

How are the games? Are there a fair few fish or is it a real grind to take money from regs?

Thanks

so if he isnt bust yet , look for anyone open shoving junk at 100 / 200 nl at merge or ipoker and cash in while he still has some.

then again it may be too late.

This poker 'enlightenment' sounds awfully familiar. Degens gonna be degens.