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    77: I think the turn raise is fine with a lot of potential draws out there. If turn is Kh, I could see an argument for calling.

    KK: any particular reason why you don't 4b? Turn jam makes no sense. Same as with the QJ hand: you don't seem to take blockers into account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    77: I think the turn raise is fine with a lot of potential draws out there. If turn is Kh, I could see an argument for calling.

    KK: any particular reason why you don't 4b? Turn jam makes no sense. Same as with the QJ hand: you don't seem to take blockers into account.
    77 - I laid out my argument for calling though and I think it's valid. Raising is obviously never not making me lots of money but I think flatting is arguably better. If villain can work out I very rarely have Tx here then I think it's better but ultimately they can't and they are probably right to not discount it as a population tendency.

    KK hands I remember seeing that villain was very tight and hadn't 3bet yet but this must have been HM2 not updating the villain as when I looked at this hand after I had basically no sample on villain (2 hands or something mad). I don't think I played this hand well hence me stopping for the day.

    I didn't get drunk though, doing that now instead.
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    77 - I think it's fine to call turn. It's unlikely villain has 10x given two are on the board, Kx and bluffs are likely bet folding and only combo draws or bigger hands are calling unless villain is a drooler. We don't hate too many river cards either, beyond 10x and Kx. We also want to have some weaker hands we can call flop and turn if we're thinking about protecting our range from being exploited (note: we shouldn't be thinking too much about this).

    KK - 4betting is likely best when 100bb+ deep, but only marginally profitable when we get jammed on and have to call off. If our 4bet gets called, I've been experimenting with chk jam flop or bet flop small and chk jam turns recently, with some success against regs. Interested in what people think about that, versus more traditional bet flop, bet turn line (Edit: I've been doing this more in 3bet pots with initiative out of position, but you get the idea).
    Last edited by The Bean Counter; 08-01-2018 at 05:39 PM.

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