Quote Originally Posted by daven View Post
even if flush draws comprise some of his raising range, what does this mean for you in this spot?
nice point.

i was well-served when spoonitnow told me in coaching sessions a while ago to investigate the effects of adding >8 out draws to a raising range which is otherwise largely "value hands" (ie seldom if ever containing "pure" bluffs). i think it's a good idea to look into what daven is getting at here