vq said this awhile back: "poker is not about making people fold" and it changed my life.

okay, it didn't really. But it can really change your POV as a relatively-inexperienced player. It's also in SSH: "They call with anything! I can't beat ppl who don't fold". The appropriate response is "wtf? that's a lot easier than beating people who don't call!"

lambchop's tale about betting MPTK for value all the way down is atypical only because opp was a Very Good player. Good enough that his calls usually indicate real strength and he knows that. Good enough to mix it up here... to act like a fish for a bit. kudos to lambchop for picking up on that.

Versus the loose fish who are sometimes pissing you off when they catch weird stuff, just keep value betting them to death. Hooray for calls! More money for you!

Pretty elementary, but that's what BC is for!