wtf redline stats checkup

Originally Posted by oskar

Oh you really don't have to comment on that one lol. I should delete it. I said it was fkin horrible. I only posted it cos !luck told me to post my worst flop betting decisions so I did







This is more likely to be a major problems Villain has been active over a small sample. It almost doesn't matter who or what he is cos this line is almost never a bluff.


$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($25)
UTG+1 ($25.57)
MP1 ($18.50)
Hero ($44.62)
CO ($25)
BTN ($79.96)
SB ($24)
BB ($7.70)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 8 players) Hero is MP2
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $1, CO folds, BTN folds, SB calls $0.90, BB folds

Flop: ($2.25, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.75, SB calls $1.75

Turn: ($5.75, 2 players)
SB bets $3.50, Hero calls $3.50

River: ($12.75, 2 players)
SB bets $9, Hero folds

Final Pot: $21.75

SB wins $21.12 (net +$5.87)

Hero lost $6.25

FFS LOOK AT THE POSTFLOP SITUATIONS YOU END UP IN OPENING CRAP LIKE T9O IN MP THIS IS CLEARLY NOT PROFITABLE TO OPEN

53s would be a better open than this. If you can't see why then I don't know what to tell you. Just tighten up in EP/MP and cbet more and boom red line improves.

Alright from someone that has had a pretty ridic red line in the past. I would say that definitely like the link says, folding in the blinds plays a significant role.

In your case, you have a high river call efficiency, a pretty low WTSD given your won at SD is like 50ish%.

I can't overly explain the 24% wtsd to 50% won at SD. I'd say mine is around 30% wtsd vs 50% won at SD. This could definitely be a hand reading thing. This could also be a 'betting the river' thing, where its probably best to either check and get to SD, or c/c vs their range. Instead you are potentially betting and they are folding (though in this case your non-sd would go up.. which it clearly isn't.. so tough to say if this is really happening).

Further, a low WTSD in itself means you're probably folding quite a bit of rivers. Folding vs calling rivers will make a VERY big difference in your red line. Not necessarily a GOOD difference, but a difference nonetheless. I say not necessarily good, because I don't think making a crappy call for the sake of red line vs blue is good.

I definitely had a very big red line at times because I was being a mega station.

I'd also agree with the posts saying winrate > red line. At the end of the day, if you're winning then good!

Originally Posted by Micro2Macro

FFS LOOK AT THE POSTFLOP SITUATIONS YOU END UP IN OPENING CRAP LIKE T9O IN MP THIS IS CLEARLY NOT PROFITABLE TO OPEN

53s would be a better open than this. If you can't see why then I don't know what to tell you. Just tighten up in EP/MP and cbet more and boom red line improves.

If opening a hand like T9o,JTo from mp gets you into just one bad spot per session, it will make these plays unprofitable for you.

I play 6 max and sometimes I find table conditions that wont allow me to raise hands like this even from the CO. I could only imagine how much this is costing you from MP in a 9 handed game. It is too loose, just stop doing it.